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Arazi

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81. There have been US civilians captured and held hostage
Wed Dec 27, 2023, 09:30 PM
Dec 2023

in war zones - most notoriously in WWII where Americans were captured and held in Japan and Germany (close to 20k between the two countries iirc but would welcome a fact check).

Other conflicts have also had civilian hostage taking before Gaza like ISIS capturing Yazidis, Boko Haram seizing the Chibok schoolgirls etc.

While soldiers try to work around ensuring their lives are spared, in general, the war just proceeds. If they can be safely retrieved - great but afaik, no country is tasked with stopping their defense because hostages…(except Israel 🙄 ). The US certainly didn’t try to stop bombing in WWII - mostly because we didn’t even know where the civilian hostages were which is fairly normal.

Hostage taking in wars is a very very ancient issue - probably one of the most common issues - and I’ve never read of a conflict where a country was ordered to ceasefire because of it

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According to Israeli sources? Or reliable sources? WarGamer Dec 2023 #1
You mean like the terrorists the "pro-Palestinians" breathlessly quote? AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #2
Are you saying Israeli sources aren't reliable? Groundhawg Dec 2023 #3
There is quite a big of info at the twitter link. sheshe2 Dec 2023 #5
Spoiler alert: Democracy Now!, Al Jazeera, and Turkish state media are NOT the sources. lapucelle Dec 2023 #6
good answer... thanks! WarGamer Dec 2023 #7
REC.. Thank You!! Cha Dec 2023 #21
Even Sinwar saying this himself on video is not enough madaboutharry Dec 2023 #4
Right.. "HAMAS wouldn't be Cha Dec 2023 #20
Yet not some folks claim not to be pro Hamas TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #72
Cool. War crimes justified. Iggo Dec 2023 #8
Great. Two fictions in a single thee-word sentence. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #9
Touche' Rec TY Cha Dec 2023 #19
Hamas's best business is dead Palestinian babies and business is BOOMING! SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #25
I'm no military expert but I feel like there are better responses to this than massacring civilians tho WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #10
This is what Hamas Wants Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #11
Yeah I know people keep saying that. Is Israel a tool of Hamas, such that it does what Hamas wants? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #12
If that's true, why is Israel doing what Hamas wants? Surely they shouldn't, right? Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #13
A version of "Homicide by cop" Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #14
I see. So Israel is destroying Hamas by giving them exactly what Hamas wants. Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #15
If this was you and Hamas, and if this was your choice to make, Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #17
I have family in Israel. I have friends murdered by Hamas. I would stop bombing and make a deal. Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #34
Well, when you tell me not to question you, you are probably being honest. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #35
If I understood your question I believe I answered it. I would have a ceasefire and work out Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #39
If you undersood my question, which I doubt, your answer was totally inadequate. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #43
Ok sorry I can't satisfy you. You are far more astute than I am. Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #44
I am a fan of snark myself, but believe me, showing off was far from what I intended Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #45
I'm not being snarky. I simply gave up reading your responses to me as I just dont have a clue what you Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #46
I do have relatives in Israel. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #47
That's great. May we achieve that peace. Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #57
You just do not want to acknowledge that Hamas TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #87
Do not tell me what I won't acknowledge. Ever. And do not tell me what I think about Hamas. Ever. Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #92
Then do so. EVER! TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #98
Psssssst.......!!! NotVeryImportant Dec 2023 #59
Do you want me to tell you more about Netanyahu being a scumbag? Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #62
No deflection here, the point is that Netanyahu is a representative of Israel NotVeryImportant Dec 2023 #66
You didn't address one single issue raised in the post you replied to. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #68
You don't make deals with terrorists who attacked your country ripcord Dec 2023 #77
Oh ok. That's why Ireland and South Africa failed. So much easier to make deals with your friends. Got it. Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #84
So we should have talked to Osama Bin Laden? AZLD4Candidate Dec 2023 #95
Unfortunately Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #67
When you see a hostage situation on the evening news do you yell for the cops... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2023 #27
When you are an idle spectator watching the news from the comfort of your home, Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #32
Wars & bank robberies share very little in common EX500rider Dec 2023 #71
Because Hamas has to go. Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #51
They old "they made me beat my wife" canard. NotVeryImportant Dec 2023 #58
since the Israeli response to Oct 7 I have been asking anyone to propose lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #26
You're Right. Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #49
anyone that can use a gun to execute babies in their cribs lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #69
That's absolutely incorrect TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #82
Hey bub... NotVeryImportant Dec 2023 #60
I too am no military expert, but where are the western militaries advising Israel on what they should be doing? Kennah Dec 2023 #30
Biden sent top urban warfare experts to Israel almost immediately Arazi Dec 2023 #70
I don't recall hostages in Fallujah Kennah Dec 2023 #73
Your post didn't mention hostages, just urban warfare and civilians Arazi Dec 2023 #75
Hostages in Gaza is what sets it apart ... Kennah Dec 2023 #79
There have been US civilians captured and held hostage Arazi Dec 2023 #81
Some will only accept Hamas approved sources for this info. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #16
I'm adding all this Shit to my Journal so Cha Dec 2023 #18
It hurts them because if any people get it Mountainguy Dec 2023 #22
Rec.. TY for those possibilities.. bc Cha Dec 2023 #24
K&R betsuni Dec 2023 #23
Hamas is the enemy peggysue2 Dec 2023 #28
Hamas is ONE enemy dwayneb Dec 2023 #64
Its like playing Whack-A-Mole with terrorists, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2023 #65
Who would be "keeping score" or tracking "those keeping score" other than RockRaven Dec 2023 #29
The idea of "keeping score" John Shaft Dec 2023 #40
Ironic sarisataka Dec 2023 #42
The tweet makes it pretty clear that it's addressed to the anti-Israel / pro-Hamas protestors. lapucelle Dec 2023 #78
In other news, Satan rejected deal to give up being Satan lostnfound Dec 2023 #31
There's no such thing as "Satan." John Shaft Dec 2023 #41
vs 20000 dead....guess they don't count...good to know dembotoz Dec 2023 #33
Are we counting previous attacks? edisdead Dec 2023 #36
news reports dembotoz Dec 2023 #37
google there are a bunch of em dembotoz Dec 2023 #38
My point is this edisdead Dec 2023 #50
my point is over 20000 dead dembotoz Dec 2023 #55
As a result of Hamas' terrorism TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #85
really????? dembotoz Dec 2023 #93
Who said they don't count? Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #52
OK, I'll bite. GhostHunter22 Dec 2023 #74
The tweet is addressed to the protestors who ostensibly want a ceasefire. lapucelle Dec 2023 #80
Hamas rejected TWO ceasefires in the last week. LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #48
Okay. let's follow the logic AZLD4Candidate Dec 2023 #88
Well Said, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2023 #91
Hamas is scum. Lunabell Dec 2023 #53
I think "keeping score" trivializes this huge disaster. marble falls Dec 2023 #54
"So I've got just the group y'all should focus those protests on." lapucelle Dec 2023 #56
It doesn't matter from which quarter it originates from: it's too flip about the murder and death authored ... marble falls Dec 2023 #61
Do you know what's flip? Chants of of "globalize the intifada" and "from the river to the sea", lapucelle Dec 2023 #63
Both sides have plenty to answer for. I am disgusted by both parties. And in sorrow all the victims ... marble falls Dec 2023 #86
Who attacked who on October 7th? Following that logic, we have just as much to blame for Pearl Harbor as AZLD4Candidate Dec 2023 #89
The tweet is directed at the pro-Hamas/anti-Israel protestors. lapucelle Dec 2023 #96
The pro-Palestinian protestors 'demand' a ceasefire. A ceasefire that Hamas refuses. keithbvadu2 Dec 2023 #76
That is because the protestors demand for a ceasefire only applies to Israel sarisataka Dec 2023 #83
Look at history. When Israel gets attacked, the world is either silent or blames Israel AZLD4Candidate Dec 2023 #90
Hamas is using civilians as human shields LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #94
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