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Jedi Guy

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92. Biden's reelection is by no means guaranteed and we'd be foolish to act as if it were.

Thu Dec 28, 2023, 12:00 PM

Dec 2023

Everyone was just so certain that Hillary would win in 2016, right up until she didn't. Everyone was laughing at Trump right up until Election Day, and then the returns started coming in and the laughter died. I vividly remember waking up the day after the election and thinking I'd woken up in the wrong timeline, and the four years of Trump's term were painful in the extreme.

Some might call this doom and gloom. I think of it as taking nothing, nothing for granted. Trump is even more of an existential threat to American democracy now than he was in his first term. Treat him as such and fight like hell to keep him out of the Oval Office. There's way too much riding on this election, and we dismiss Trump at our own peril.

Carville is absolutely right to point out that another victory for Biden is not certain. Complacency is deadly.

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Fetterman Tells James Carville to 'Shut the Fuck Up' [View all] babylonsister Dec 2023 OP

I agree with him Fullduplexxx Dec 2023 #1

So do I. nt babylonsister Dec 2023 #2

I agree, Carville has done nothing good since Bill Clinton's election karynnj Dec 2023 #74

Good. Joinfortmill Dec 2023 #3

That's my Senator! Freddie Dec 2023 #4

Carville is the past PJMcK Dec 2023 #5

Was he much of a past? LiberalFighter Dec 2023 #6

Carville was instrumental in getting Bill Clinton elected PJMcK Dec 2023 #7

Yes they have changed. LiberalFighter Dec 2023 #39

I wonder how much of that was mythology karynnj Dec 2023 #75

Let's not rule out the role of Bush The Senior Kennah Dec 2023 #84

Agree and in 1992, Bush was a very lackluster candidate karynnj Dec 2023 #88

Oh how I long for the days when Watergate was the worst the GOP was up to Kennah Dec 2023 #91

But also LOL, Carville's reply RandomNumbers Dec 2023 #8

i mean, ya gotta give the props when the props r earned. mopinko Dec 2023 #11

I like both of them. LisaM Dec 2023 #22

And he would know! ArkansasDemocrat1 Dec 2023 #36

More than a Rebl2 Dec 2023 #27

Oh, she is definitely still Republican TexasBushwhacker Dec 2023 #33

That's something I certainly don't want to picture! Polybius Dec 2023 #43

Because only young orangecrush Dec 2023 #46

Nah Polybius Dec 2023 #49

Perfect response. erronis Dec 2023 #54

Yes, that. nt sprinkleeninow Dec 2023 #82

I stand corrected. She switched to Libertarian TexasBushwhacker Dec 2023 #59

Good! ananda Dec 2023 #9

Perfect! Arazi Dec 2023 #10

Outstanding! Thank you, Sen. Fetterman. Paladin Dec 2023 #12

John Fetterman speaks for me and I would like to add.. agingdem Dec 2023 #77

Best not get me started about Ari. Paladin Dec 2023 #85

Thank you! agingdem Dec 2023 #86

And have you ever seen a worse interviewer? Paladin Dec 2023 #89

I particularly like his explanation of the law agingdem Dec 2023 #90

Never doubt you have plenty of frustrated company. Paladin Dec 2023 #93

and a history lesson, a guest, and a first question.."Did I get the facts right?" agingdem Dec 2023 #96

All of that I could handle. Paladin Dec 2023 #97

Have to admit I reply "Stop" when I get something from Carville Picaro Dec 2023 #13

My take on this is that Carville isn't exactly "anti-Biden" so much as he's rooting for a tight race FakeNoose Dec 2023 #14

Agreed. Ishoutandscream2 Dec 2023 #19

Meant for Oopsy. Ishoutandscream2 Dec 2023 #20

He's not from Philly Sugarcoated Dec 2023 #42

That's how I see it too TexasBushwhacker Dec 2023 #35

I dislike Carville as much as anyone, but I dislike even more when a Democrat * Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #15

Read above. Totally agree Ishoutandscream2 Dec 2023 #21

Sadly, he's part of the Trashification of American Society PTL_Mancuso Dec 2023 #34

The pugs said the same thing about Franken orangecrush Dec 2023 #47

Speculating here, but I suspect his depression may contribute to Fetterman's spooky3 Dec 2023 #56

I had to ask myself how I would feel if a Republican rather than Fetterman said the same thing. femmedem Dec 2023 #65

as much as I embrace profanity Skittles Dec 2023 #66

Fair enough. I used to feel that way too but the incivility is seeping into my thinking as well. ecstatic Dec 2023 #73

Love what Fetterman has to say, and Carville's still a good gadfly nt gulliver Dec 2023 #16

I agree with Fetterman. These so called Democratic strategists are so out of it. LiberalFighter Dec 2023 #17

Great list orangecrush Dec 2023 #48

I disagree in part. I love to listen to Claire McCaskill. It's horrifying spooky3 Dec 2023 #55

I love Claire, too! ShazzieB Dec 2023 #70

I am sure no one will agree with me here nevergiveup Dec 2023 #18

That type of language and behavior doesn't sit well with me. It's beneath the dignity of the office. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #23

Agreed. Ishoutandscream2 Dec 2023 #24

But he's not from Philly. Sugarcoated Dec 2023 #44

Agreed Goddessartist Dec 2023 #26

John Fetterman is supporting the President in everything FakeNoose Dec 2023 #38

I suspect the stroke has affected Fetterman's ability to communicate and it's certainly made him LymphocyteLover Dec 2023 #87

Your explanation is really a good one. nevergiveup Dec 2023 #94

Thanks. I agree that he needs more help and hope he gets it. LymphocyteLover Dec 2023 #95

Damn!!!! fantase56 Dec 2023 #25

Both of your Senators are good solid Democrats. comradebillyboy Dec 2023 #29

We do this. We're Democrats. We like to disagree and sometimes lapse into poor taste but in no way are we like the CTyankee Dec 2023 #28

Even IF Carville was right, what the hell are we supposed to do Wednesdays Dec 2023 #30

Yep, tired of Carville relayerbob Dec 2023 #31

Ragin' Cajun needs a course adjustment Zambero Dec 2023 #32

Lately there has been 1 area that Carville Yoyoyo77 Dec 2023 #83

I stand with Fetterman! n/t iluvtennis Dec 2023 #37

Big John Is Peak Pennsylvania Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #40

I am growing to really like and appreciate Senator Fetterman LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #41

Or, Carville's tactics are starting work and Democrats are getting off their asses to support and promote Biden! Freethinker65 Dec 2023 #45

Indeed! STFU dchill Dec 2023 #50

I have never had much respect for Carville's outlook . I do not now. He may well understand parts of the electorate Ford_Prefect Dec 2023 #51

God I love John Fetterman! N/T Upthevibe Dec 2023 #52

I think Fetterman is spot on. canuckledragger Dec 2023 #53

I don't know why people say these things but it is never constructive as I see it. Michael Moore has done it Maraya1969 Dec 2023 #57

I like them both, but in this case onetexan Dec 2023 #58

Fetterman rarely beats around the bush. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #60

Thank you, Senator. BadgerMom Dec 2023 #61

"Decorum" is no longer on the table. MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2023 #62

Agree! Hope22 Dec 2023 #63

Good. Somebody had to do it. Liberal In Texas Dec 2023 #64

Carville has a point. There is no room for complacency. Recall how you felt the morning after the 2016 election. Marcuse Dec 2023 #67

Counter opinion TheProle Dec 2023 #68

This👆 Roy Rolling Dec 2023 #69

I agree. Carville is super annoying and irrelevant. We don't want or need his advice. ecstatic Dec 2023 #71

Good, I really like Letterman. 🙂nt Raine Dec 2023 #72

Carville used to be considered an 'attack dog' Red Mountain Dec 2023 #76

That's worth a donation right there. sybylla Dec 2023 #78

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This MustLoveBeagles Dec 2023 #81

I'm jealous donheld Dec 2023 #80

Biden's reelection is by no means guaranteed and we'd be foolish to act as if it were. Jedi Guy Dec 2023 #92