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limbicnuminousity

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112. Adding some thoughts
Sat Jan 6, 2024, 10:46 PM
Jan 2024

The phrase "virtual rape" seems to bother some people while it offends others. It's obvious from the article, however poorly written, that nobody knows what to call it or what to do about it.

The author states: "The question of whether virtual rape is 'really rape'" The police described in the article state: "There is an emotional and psychological impact on the victim that is longer-term than any physical injuries." The psychotherapist in the article states: "Unlike in the physical world, there’s a lack of clear and enforceable rules in the metaverse." "Harassment," "assault," and "verbal abuse" all strike me as applicable descriptors depending on the specific circumstances.

I'm curious though. What line has to be crossed before society is obligated to step in and do something? Would anyone be okay with a group of teenaged boys calling their daughter a "whore" day in and day out every day at school? What if that harassment persisted through social media accounts due to doxxing and your child was being verbally assaulted every evening? What if they started scheduling regular times to verbally and/or physically taunt or threaten your child?

This is a personal question for me. Neo-nazis tried indoctrinating my kid a few years back and they did it online. From what I was able to discern, they like online gaming (as well as political forums). I resolved the situation but that resolution came at a deep and personal cost.

Casually dismissing the challenges of a virtual realm ignores the fact that a digital presence is required to live today. Email addresses and social media profiles are required in some schools and many jobs. Social media accounts are required if you want to network and advance in most fields requiring a college degree. Video conferencing is an increasingly common expectation in medicine or at work.

Protecting your own child is good and necessary but leaves a lot of people to fall through the cracks. The people who fall through the cracks become damaged. When they become badly enough damaged, they either need substantial investment in mental healthcare or they run the risk of becoming radicalized. Neither option benefits society.

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Sorry, but snowybirdie Jan 2024 #1
She was playing an immersive video game involving a headset and an "avatar" or character that moved the way she WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #2
A game snowybirdie Jan 2024 #3
. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #5
Interesting The Contrarian Jan 2024 #22
Crime is a social construct. At this point, according to other articles, the police are "investigating" it, so no WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #24
Is it a crime? limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #28
blocking an IP address does nothing. edisdead Jan 2024 #81
Immediately pass a law that you have to be 21 years jimfields33 Jan 2024 #105
The world is getting away from me, too nt XanaDUer2 Jan 2024 #11
Same here NickB79 Jan 2024 #33
It could be viewed as rape by proxy. no_hypocrisy Jan 2024 #4
If you're playing an online game and you shoot and kill their avatar, is it murder by proxy? MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #6
The concept of a game depends on the common rules people accept when they play together. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #9
That doesn't make sense. Is it or isn't it rape? MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #64
It's too bad this is the article that introduced this incident to the board, because it's poorly written, and people WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #69
Or perhaps snowybirdie Jan 2024 #8
Why "or"? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #10
Your sympathy is overwhelming. NoRethugFriends Jan 2024 #53
I don't get this. Is raping programmed and allowed in the software? honest.abe Jan 2024 #70
no. and it shouldn't edisdead Jan 2024 #82
Dangerously watering down the concept in my eyes TheKentuckian Jan 2024 #7
I think there's a strange dynamic, motivated by the laudable desire to make sure rape is taken seriously... Silent3 Jan 2024 #17
Exactly LearnedHand Jan 2024 #61
Exactly edisdead Jan 2024 #83
This isn't new Sympthsical Jan 2024 #12
Oh man. Goldshire Inn. I made a toon on an RP server, went to Goldshire, and logged out traumatized. Jedi Guy Jan 2024 #59
I was an EQ2 guy, then dropped it for LOTRO. Xolodno Jan 2024 #63
Agree with almost everything edisdead Jan 2024 #84
Your post raises a question I've had since I found this thread; robbob Jan 2024 #102
this is a very poor article Takket Jan 2024 #13
It's not a news article. There are links to news articles about it in the article. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #14
great points and questions edisdead Jan 2024 #85
This is why Mossfern Jan 2024 #15
Depends where you live. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2024 #32
Hahaha yeah books never have graphic content. edisdead Jan 2024 #86
People get "virtually" killed as well in games. So virtual murder charges? harumph Jan 2024 #16
As you can surely understand, one is part of the game, the other isn't. NoRethugFriends Jan 2024 #55
Do we know that? edisdead Jan 2024 #87
Kick nt XanaDUer2 Jan 2024 #18
Surprised by some response. limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #19
If this girl felt violated by this then it should be investigated. Swede Jan 2024 #20
As soon as she started feeling uncomfortable she should have removed herself from that situation ripcord Jan 2024 #23
Who says she didn't? Whatever she experienced caused emotional and psychological trauma. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #26
I don't get your point? robbob Jan 2024 #103
Gamers design their avatars, physique, hair, clothes, give them names. Swede Jan 2024 #29
She could log off/exit game to save her avatar also EX500rider Jan 2024 #52
These trolls will move on to the next victim. Swede Jan 2024 #58
I'm not. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #21
If directed to me, I know. limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #30
I don't think many here disagree with it being harassment edisdead Jan 2024 #88
I'm confused. Can someone explain step by step ecstatic Jan 2024 #25
Depending on the game, you can hinder a person's progress. With real-time audio, people can describe what they WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #34
Yes. Just because they aren't physically attacking her it is emotional. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #42
There is the appropriate word. Harassment. edisdead Jan 2024 #89
Is this satire? TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #27
It's 2024. Swede Jan 2024 #31
So 2024 satire? TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #35
What if the girl was your daughter? Swede Jan 2024 #37
She could have pushed the power button TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #39
Read this post. Swede Jan 2024 #43
My daughter would have enough sense to push the power button TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #44
Teens commit suicide over the stuff on the internet. Swede Jan 2024 #47
Cyber bullying is terrible TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #49
Just lay back and enjoy the ride. Swede Jan 2024 #50
You do understand that the avatar isn't real? TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #51
You do realise her pain was real? Swede Jan 2024 #54
Apparently unable to process that concept. NoRethugFriends Jan 2024 #57
So do you think this is a criminal offense? The Contrarian Jan 2024 #66
Cyber bullying and harassment are very real and terrible things edisdead Jan 2024 #90
That is a catastrophic failure to instil coping skills, TheKentuckian Jan 2024 #109
Well they'd reply to you but they're dead. Swede Jan 2024 #110
What your daughter would (or woildn't) do is irrelevant. NoRethugFriends Jan 2024 #56
but that question was posed to them... edisdead Jan 2024 #91
Young woman's description limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #36
That is sick behavior of them. They need to be blocked from using it. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #41
I wonder how many rape victims edisdead Jan 2024 #92
Just thinking about how often my character was killed and his corpse teabagged in Halo multiplayer NickB79 Jan 2024 #38
Sounds like consent was involved all around. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #46
Nah, a lot of people get worked up big time over it NickB79 Jan 2024 #48
Why does the game have the option to rape young girls? LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #40
It doesn't. The players banded together to corner the avatar and verbally assault the player. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #45
There ya go. Verbal assault. edisdead Jan 2024 #93
That is my question, why is Bettie Jan 2024 #62
it likely doesn't edisdead Jan 2024 #96
Men are prosecuted all the time for stalking, harassing, LearnedHand Jan 2024 #60
Those things are true. edisdead Jan 2024 #94
Good points LearnedHand Jan 2024 #107
Just take the headset off? Patton French Jan 2024 #65
How do you confirm a virtual rape? Ferrets are Cool Jan 2024 #67
Sacrificing an element of privacy? limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #74
Ok, let me try a different tack....how would a lawyer prove that she had been "virtually" raped? Ferrets are Cool Jan 2024 #76
That is admittedly problematic. limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #79
We are on the same page. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2024 #80
Then call it sexual harssment. edisdead Jan 2024 #95
Excellent, well-reasoned points LearnedHand Jan 2024 #106
A different word is needed. Rape has a legal definition. MineralMan Jan 2024 #68
Sounds like the cyber version of what we used to call an "obscene phone call." Iggo Jan 2024 #71
I'm dumb XanaDUer2 Jan 2024 #72
I am pretty sure I have never been as disappointed by a discussion here- coffeenap Jan 2024 #73
+1 berniesandersmittens Jan 2024 #75
I think that edisdead Jan 2024 #97
The game owners should imprison the avatars involved. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #77
This is a serious question XanaDUer2 Jan 2024 #78
Ever hear of "tombstoning"? nt yagotme Jan 2024 #99
Yes, here XanaDUer2 Jan 2024 #100
Game world equivalent to tombstoning needs to be applied to them. nt yagotme Jan 2024 #101
Here is the legal definition of rape edisdead Jan 2024 #98
Watching people who have their identities wrapped up in text-only message boards Prairie Gates Jan 2024 #104
Maybe we can stop blaming the victim for using the wrong words to describe what happened to her? LearnedHand Jan 2024 #108
This is sexual harrassment Zeitghost Jan 2024 #111
Adding some thoughts limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #112
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