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Arazi

(8,887 posts)
31. I believe the US is probably doing everything it can atm
Mon Jan 15, 2024, 12:38 PM
Jan 2024

Providing both ammunition and intelligence but tbh, I don’t think we’ve got a lot of our own assets in there. We’ve mostly relied on Israel to be our eyes and ears on the ground in that region. We already give them a boatload of support for that “service”.

That they failed so spectacularly is stunning.

The US is also one of Gaza’s largest humanitarian aid providers as well so I’m not sure what else we can do for them either. The Palestinians destroyed all trust by squandering billions of humanitarian aid on their terrorism infrastructure - Im not sure throwing more dollars into that cesspool is productive atm until Hamas is gone. Otherwise it’s just money feeding their insane jihad against Israel, with very little going to innocent civilians.

I had a dialogue with another poster on a different thread who wants US soldiers to be fighting in Gaza but imo that would be a massive mistake. Joe Biden would never recover from Americans getting killed fighting in another foreign conflict, our already-tattered international reputation as butchers would be relentlessly paraded in the Islamic world if/when American soldiers inevitably killed civilians (cause urban warfare is always a shitshow).

We don’t have a lot of leverage here despite everyone crying for Biden to implement a ceasefire now. He’s not the PM of Israel and so this ugly horror show is going to continue until Hamas gives up or is eradicated enough that they’re no longer a security threat to Israel. Nobody likes it. If it’s any comfort, this war isn’t even in the top 10 of civilian deaths in the past 50 years. Imo Israel is actually trying to keep the civilian death toll at a minimum but Hamas is determined to put their innocent people in front of their fighters. They believe in martyrdom as a good thing. It’s very hard to get around that mentality… cold comfort I know. 😞

My best advice? Work like hell to get Joe Biden re-elected. We need his old and steady hand at the wheel to continue working on Likud and Netanyahu. If there’s ever going to be a 2state solution at the end of this, he’s probably the only one who can pull it off but he has to be in office to do it.

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They want the killing to continue. Turbineguy Jan 2024 #1
They've openly said they want more massacres mcar Jan 2024 #3
The Palestinians, what they are as a state Turbineguy Jan 2024 #5
They were "broken" in the '20s and '30s and '40s. Igel Jan 2024 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz Jan 2024 #78
More agony for their families. brer cat Jan 2024 #2
I'm waiting for the "but Israel" responses to this mcar Jan 2024 #4
No worries -- they'll be along, plus the people begging Israel to unconditionally stop because, Peace Hekate Jan 2024 #14
I want Ukraine to absolutely kick russias ass. Eko Jan 2024 #22
The thing you have to ask... Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #33
You are asking the wrong question. Eko Jan 2024 #49
Disagreeing with me does not make you an un-person, nor does being wrong. Hekate Jan 2024 #48
No, they don't care about their losses question everything Jan 2024 #44
What is the confusion? Are we talking about terrorists or innocents BootinUp Jan 2024 #6
But Hamas makes it so that... Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #34
US did better slightly in Faluja, Israel can do the same decides not to uponit7771 Jan 2024 #64
Apple and Oranges Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #67
Butchers of HAMAS taunting Cha Jan 2024 #7
Black or white, all or nothing ideology: U.S./West is evil corrupt immoral, enemies must be moral and good betsuni Jan 2024 #8
This Kennah Jan 2024 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Jan 2024 #21
This is disgusting behavior LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #9
This is who they are and look who supports them.. Cha Jan 2024 #10
Astroturf at its most toxic Hekate Jan 2024 #15
Yes, Astro Turf and here's the dictionary definition.. Cha Jan 2024 #17
If I share videos of christians calling for the death of non-christians will you also agree that they Eko Jan 2024 #23
I will bet one shiny nickel sarisataka Jan 2024 #12
I think you would owe me a shiny nickel DFW Jan 2024 #16
There is that Hekate Jan 2024 #18
You can support Palestine SqueakyWheel.363 Jan 2024 #13
Tell That to these Shitheads.. Cha Jan 2024 #19
That dude who says "normalize massacres as the status quo" Bucky Jan 2024 #54
HAMAS started this WAR with the Massacre Cha Jan 2024 #56
Yes, Hamas started this phase of the conflict with their terrorist attack Bucky Jan 2024 #59
It's not just a "handful of terrorists" Arazi Jan 2024 #68
Can you support Palestinians that support Hamas without ... Whiskeytide Jan 2024 #24
Well, SqueakyWheel.363 Jan 2024 #50
The Butchers of HAMAS started Cha Jan 2024 #57
Bullshit. There have been genocidal wars of aggression, suicide bombers, rockets TheKentuckian Jan 2024 #63
Most of that is false, and it's not even original. yardwork Jan 2024 #69
Yes, you can, but some of your allies... Happy Hoosier Jan 2024 #35
Unspeakable Horror DET Jan 2024 #20
I guess they want the bombings to continue Calculating Jan 2024 #26
Raid on Entebbe limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #27
Civilians are not allowed into the tunnels Arazi Jan 2024 #28
Good link. limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #30
I believe the US is probably doing everything it can atm Arazi Jan 2024 #31
Truly thoughtful response. limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #36
Apples and oranges. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #32
"Zionist government" - is this a dog whistle? question everything Jan 2024 #39
It was a polite conversation limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #41
Why, then, did you use this term? Yes, I am questioning everything including your intention question everything Jan 2024 #43
Fair question limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #45
Where to start? "Revisionist Zionism" existed before the formation of the State of Israel in 1948 question everything Jan 2024 #46
Sure thing. limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #47
How would the response look similar when it is a wholly different scenario? TheKentuckian Jan 2024 #66
Tactics can be adapted across staging areas and environs. limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #72
There are posters that would have you believe that if you show any sympathy for the innocent women and children Chainfire Jan 2024 #29
Well said! BuddhaGirl Jan 2024 #37
Thank you! Well said obamanut2012 Jan 2024 #71
The record of Palestinian Political Violence tonekat Jan 2024 #38
You mean the NYT took your online comments down? That's probably on you. maxsolomon Jan 2024 #42
Because they see Hamas as the only organization fighting for Palestinian freedom. maxsolomon Jan 2024 #40
Gaza became independent in 2006. What has Hamas done to create good life? Only misery question everything Jan 2024 #51
Thank you. It's painful to contemplate, but you're so right. Bucky Jan 2024 #55
The Palestinians are Useful Deep State Witch Jan 2024 #76
This Is Quite True, Ma'am, And Has Been Since '48 The Magistrate Jan 2024 #79
Thank you for that answer mcar Jan 2024 #73
Ask the Israeli government. They are one of their biggest supporters ColinC Jan 2024 #52
No one in this forum supports Hamas. Cut out the McCarthyism. Bucky Jan 2024 #53
Did she say anyone at the forum supports Hamas? No, she didn't. Behind the Aegis Jan 2024 #58
REC.. TY! Cha Jan 2024 #61
Thanks BtA mcar Jan 2024 #75
Don't personally Insult the OP by Accusing her of "McCarthyism" Cha Jan 2024 #60
Not true. JI7 Jan 2024 #62
"McCarthyism" betsuni Jan 2024 #65
The OP didn't say that anybody on DU supports HAMAS. yardwork Jan 2024 #70
Bless your heart mcar Jan 2024 #74
... Cha Jan 2024 #77
Pure evil. SunSeeker Jan 2024 #80
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