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Arazi

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39. We also get their intelligence in the region

Sat Jan 20, 2024, 11:07 PM

Jan 2024

We can’t replicate that. Americans can’t pass as Arabs whereas many Israelis ARE Arab.

While our financial aid began as a gesture to support a fledgling democracy, our relationship and the $$ are now almost entirely transactional.

Israel provides a massive amount of intelligence for us. No way will the US end that deal.

We could make the military support conditional (such as removing Netanyahu) and I agree with doing that. Israel doesn’t actually need our military aid and Joe Biden could score easy points with the naive TikTok gullibles by making the aid conditional

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Can someone please tell me when Biden was anointed King of Israel? [View all] Coventina Jan 2024 OP

zackly nocoincidences Jan 2024 #1

Those who feel that way believe he should cut off support for Israel, and because JohnSJ Jan 2024 #2

Would you mind... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #8

For one thing it wouldn't pass Congress, as was demonstrated when Sanders tried to JohnSJ Jan 2024 #16

"Losing issue" vs watching a genocide for months now LeftRightLeft Jan 2024 #41

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It's not a genocide Arazi Jan 2024 #71

We agree on one thing... LeftRightLeft Jan 2024 #73

I don't understand? JustAnotherGen Jan 2024 #81

Actually, the ICJ is investigating claims made by South Africa concerning genocide. lapucelle Jan 2024 #95

... lapucelle Jan 2024 #96

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Welcome to DU. lapucelle Jan 2024 #98

It's Not "genocide". Cha Jan 2024 #44

No it isn't, but some like to throw that around, while ignoring that JohnSJ Jan 2024 #46

Netanyahu himself used the dreaded "from the river to the sea" term. LeftRightLeft Jan 2024 #99

Hamas has the destruction of Israel, and death to all Jews in their charter. That term river to sea JohnSJ Jan 2024 #100

So no response to the direct question as to what do you think Netanyahu meant by that huh? LeftRightLeft Jan 2024 #101

The same thing as Hamas, but the difference is Hamas is NOT a democracy, and Israel is, JohnSJ Jan 2024 #102

Are you suggesting that the LeftRightLeft Jan 2024 #104

I believe the opposite - not calling for a ceasefire in Gaza will hurt us in election - womanofthehills Jan 2024 #49

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Because Trump will be *SO MUCH* better for the world, including Palestinians. RandomNumbers Jan 2024 #62

for one thing, congress has just a small stopdiggin Jan 2024 #22

I see, thank you... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #25

as a recent resident of the Middle East, Tetrachloride Jan 2024 #33

That's certainly interesting! Think. Again. Jan 2024 #35

yes. however, definitions vary Tetrachloride Jan 2024 #105

Personally I think every military aid to every country should have conditions. That it doesn't seems Nanjeanne Jan 2024 #72

Got a link to where someone said Biden is the king of Israel? I would be much obliged. Autumn Jan 2024 #3

I am not referencing anyone on this board. Coventina Jan 2024 #5

I've run into the same issue with a very old friend. mn9driver Jan 2024 #36

She's not wrong. donheld Jan 2024 #37

Yes, the "evil US" lol EX500rider Jan 2024 #68

I know people like that, U.S.: uniquely blood-thirsty warmongering corrupt evil empire pulling the strings everywhere. betsuni Jan 2024 #40

Obviously not that intelligent since her selective view ignores JohnSJ Jan 2024 #47

Central Europe, huh? How's she feel about the Russian invasion of Ukraine? NickB79 Jan 2024 #56

Complicit does not equal 'in charge'. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #83

When one states they unconditionally support a party and provides that RockRaven Jan 2024 #4

Nothing Israel gets from us is free. Coventina Jan 2024 #7

The U.S. does gift Israel with "free", unconditional foreign aid... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #10

Every year without fail. Since 1948. Autumn Jan 2024 #11

Peanuts. They live in a rough neighborhood where lots of people want them dead oldsoftie Jan 2024 #26

Billions is Peanuts? FHRRK Jan 2024 #45

3.3B is peanuts to US; yes. Its not peanuts to THEM I'm sure oldsoftie Jan 2024 #51

I happen to agree FHRRK Jan 2024 #66

The 3 billion is 7% of the IDF budget EX500rider Jan 2024 #69

Why rely on secondary sources for information when primary sources are available lapucelle Jan 2024 #75

I hadn't realized... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #76

Israel is the only democracy in the region, lapucelle Jan 2024 #82

That IS a good question... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #85

A $519,000 upgrade to a sports facility? lapucelle Jan 2024 #87

Yeah, I've always thought Americans... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #88

As for the idea to "stop giving to both [sides]".... lapucelle Jan 2024 #84

You might be right... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #86

I am right. Isolationism is a Trumpian world view. lapucelle Jan 2024 #89

Wow, you're all over the place with this. Think. Again. Jan 2024 #90

Sorry, that doesn't work on me. lapucelle Jan 2024 #91

Hm, yeah, thanks for your input. Think. Again. Jan 2024 #94

You are wrong. Autumn Jan 2024 #14

We also get their intelligence in the region Arazi Jan 2024 #39

Is that from the same intelligence sources... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #74

Yup. A massive failure just like the US on 9-11 Arazi Jan 2024 #77

Now that you mention it.... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #78

Right down to the massive overreaction Arazi Jan 2024 #79

assuming it was a 're'-action at all. Think. Again. Jan 2024 #80

That simple malaise Jan 2024 #54

Or Biden is Dad and all he has to do is cut off Israel's allowance and everything will be fine. betsuni Jan 2024 #6

Or He's Dumbledore Deep State Witch Jan 2024 #32

Good question mcar Jan 2024 #9

because everyone knows that Isreal doesn't move a finger stopdiggin Jan 2024 #12

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Hamas LOVES dead Palestinian babies. Dead Palestinian babies is their business and business is A-BOOMIN'! SoFlaBro Jan 2024 #21

The Free Palestine/ProHamas lovers are antisemites cloaked agingdem Jan 2024 #31

There little ruse has been exposed. They tried desperately to make this a quasi racial issue of white Israelis vs. dark SoFlaBro Jan 2024 #48

As if they did vote to begin with vercetti2021 Jan 2024 #18

The US has treaties with Israel. cachukis Jan 2024 #17

If only our treaties with... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #28

No clue what you are on about. Celerity Jan 2024 #43

This is part of the constitution. cachukis Jan 2024 #52

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In constitutional law, ratified treaties become part of the cachukis Jan 2024 #57

You seem to lack understanding about what is the acutal US Constitution. Celerity Jan 2024 #59

Okay. Forgive my misinterpretation. cachukis Jan 2024 #60

All good m8 Celerity Jan 2024 #61

The purists apparently vercetti2021 Jan 2024 #20

Exactly, the same position they took against Ukraine. Ironically it is JohnSJ Jan 2024 #103

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How? betsuni Jan 2024 #106

How? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2024 #107

Yes, what U.S. unilateral approach? betsuni Jan 2024 #108

Before, at the point of Hamas attack on Israel! Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2024 #109

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