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87. You don't want to relitigate 2016, but you have no problem trashing one of

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the smartest, most competent, well-prepared candidates we have had? Got it.

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Trump did not win the election in 2016 [View all] Beachnutt Jan 2024 OP

This right here... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #1

Their only plan: Battleground electors. Through bought votes by Koch's right wing billionaire network. ancianita Jan 2024 #32

Well, and... Think. Again. Jan 2024 #59

I hear you. I just think that the other suppression plans are the means to get to accomplish the right wing's elector ancianita Jan 2024 #69

Good points. Think. Again. Jan 2024 #71

... ancianita Jan 2024 #76

I DO like your optimism! Think. Again. Jan 2024 #79

We don't know yet but count on it he is getting all the help billionaires, Putin, Iran, North Korea can buy. mahina Jan 2024 #52

Exactly! How soon we forget - and I'm referring to the media Rhiannon12866 Jan 2024 #2

How did he cheat? brooklynite Jan 2024 #3

Russian help Beachnutt Jan 2024 #7

Trump definitely had Russian help, but that's not really "stealing" an election. yardwork Jan 2024 #11

Cheating can be stealing. boston bean Jan 2024 #14

No doubt that Trump cheats, lies, and steals. yardwork Jan 2024 #15

Which isn't cheating... brooklynite Jan 2024 #26

agree Celerity Jan 2024 #37

You think Putin left it up to voter whim? triron Jan 2024 #96

Please elaborate... brooklynite Jan 2024 #97

Vlad watched Rove & W. czarjak Jan 2024 #38

That thing about foreign contributions dpibel Jan 2024 #43

Frankly it happens every year... WarGamer Jan 2024 #62

Yeah? dpibel Jan 2024 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author Think. Again. Jan 2024 #60

Well Putin has a lot riding on this election Walleye Jan 2024 #4

Think he won in 2016, primarily because some Democrats decided to protest their guy losing primaries. Silent Type Jan 2024 #5

He won with the votes. But too many of those votes... Pacifist Patriot Jan 2024 #23

If someone is that stupid and gullible to believe false Facebook fake news stories... Polybius Jan 2024 #72

Not necessarily. My elderly neighbors were lifelong democrats until they fell for a combo of... Pacifist Patriot Jan 2024 #91

Hillary got THREE MILLION more votes than TRAITOR**. niyad Jan 2024 #86

Which is why I loathe the EC and would dearly love to see it go the way of the dinosaurs. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2024 #90

What value is there in refighting the 2016 primary? Doc Sportello Jan 2024 #56

Why debate 2016 period? It's over and we beat ourselves. Silent Type Jan 2024 #57

You're the one who started the blame game Doc Sportello Jan 2024 #63

I was responding to OP. How did I blame any voter for 2024. Doc, think you misinterpreted. Silent Type Jan 2024 #74

OP said NOTHING about blaming. You did, however Doc Sportello Jan 2024 #85

Ridiculous the way the TPP was mindlessly believed to be President Obama's diabolical plot to betsuni Jan 2024 #70

How exactly did Trump cheat and steal the 2016 election TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #6

Russian money, social media disinformation, voter suppression....... groundloop Jan 2024 #10

Doesn't matter if Hillary got more total votes TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #28

With all due respect SouthernDem4ever Jan 2024 #40

Voters should know this TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #44

No argument here. SouthernDem4ever Jan 2024 #45

At least one prominent (D) called his presidency "illegitimate". Igel Jan 2024 #17

Which prominent Democrat? TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #25

Jimmy Carter for one. triron Jan 2024 #49

Cool any link to that? TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #54

Google it. triron Jan 2024 #81

Lost the popular vote which should reign supreme over an E.C. czarjak Jan 2024 #41

But it doesn't. brooklynite Jan 2024 #46

With Vlad's help. czarjak Jan 2024 #50

Why should it reign supreme? TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #55

You have to ask? czarjak Jan 2024 #58

That's not an answer TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #61

What is the reason? dpibel Jan 2024 #67

The Rich White Guy Party utilizes as intended. czarjak Jan 2024 #80

Exactly triron Jan 2024 #82

because Dems, including Obama who had evidence of what Russia was up to MadameButterfly Jan 2024 #53

Maybe they should. triron Jan 2024 #83

Well, I don't really know what Gore could have done but MadameButterfly Jan 2024 #98

2024 will mark 20 years since Republicans last won the popular vote. Emile Jan 2024 #8

No, 1956 was the last time a R*p*bl*c*n Seeking Serenity Jan 2024 #68

1984? Polybius Jan 2024 #73

No, neither one Seeking Serenity Jan 2024 #75

Last time all kinds of dark money from foreign sources PLUS flooding the zone with wiggs Jan 2024 #9

If Trump can't get elected, or electored, markodochartaigh Jan 2024 #12

What do you know the Democratic National Committee doesn't know? former9thward Jan 2024 #13

He won't win the popular vote. He might win the elecoral vote Warpy Jan 2024 #16

Polls consistently show Trump leading in the handful of swing states TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #29

TIA? n/t Igel Jan 2024 #18

We don't have proof about 2016 bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #19

Of course we know! TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #31

What caused the most ignorant never-voters to turn out in droves? bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #33

Trump love. TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #34

LOL, yes there is that, and we really don't know why any sane person would do that! /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #36

I suppose TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #39

Don't forget FBI Comey announcing investigation of Hillary Clinton. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #20

James Comey was the cause nowforever Jan 2024 #21

Trump won in 2016 because democrats sat out thinking Clinton was already set to win Galraedia Jan 2024 #22

Sadly, a few did. TPM talked about the possibility of Trump locking up reporters Bucky Jan 2024 #24

There were also Dems (and lots of media outlets) that did nothing but trash talk Hillary Clinton peggysue2 Jan 2024 #35

Considering the unrelenting trashing and demonizing coming from all directions, how media pundits literally betsuni Jan 2024 #77

Mile Johnson is Speaker instead of Nancy Pelosi CanonRay Jan 2024 #27

When it comes to drumpf, I prefer the term "take office" JoseBalow Jan 2024 #30

I sat through four years of Hell, that tells me he did indeed win. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2024 #42

Let's not be naive about this. Clinton was not a good candidate. Bucky Jan 2024 #47

You don't want to relitigate 2016, but you have no problem trashing one of niyad Jan 2024 #87

+10000000000 betsuni Jan 2024 #88

Not trashing. Calmly assessing. Bucky Jan 2024 #93

Uh huh niyad Jan 2024 #94

Ask yourself a question Bucky Jan 2024 #99

I didn't think there was a snowballs chance in HELL he would win in 2016. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2024 #48

The problem is the EC - as it was in 2000 and 2016. J_William_Ryan Jan 2024 #51

David Corn: betsuni Jan 2024 #64

Putin and Comey elected TFG in 2016 LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #66

I remind people that he lost the popular vote by THREE MILLION. niyad Jan 2024 #78

And exit polls in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Florida all had Botany Jan 2024 #84

PORN STAR COURT CASE (TRUMP DID CHEAT) Ozzi Jan 2024 #89

Trump did win in 2016. Oneironaut Jan 2024 #92

Yep Zeitghost Jan 2024 #95