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Johnny2X2X

(19,420 posts)
9. Oh sure
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 01:19 PM
Jan 2024

There are always areas where crime is going down, or crime is going up. But in the Bay area, property crime is going down, even though they're seeing a slight uptick in violent crime which is bucking the national trend.

As far as this store location's neighborhood, who knows, but we do know that corporations have been using the false excuse of crime to close stores in recent years. And we do know that the media covers crime in a way that misportrays it as out of control.

And when I say crime is way down long term, I really mean it. I don't mean down from 450 to 440 over time, but down by more than half. The vilolent crime rate in the US was 758 per 100,000 people yearly in 1991, it was at 340 per 100,000 people in 2023, the lowest in the US since the early 1960s. And proprty crime too, was at 5140 property crimes per 100,000 people yearly in 1991 and in 2023 fell to about 1850 property crimes per 100,000 people, the lowest number recorded since 1961. That's a 65% drop in property crimes.

And another thing people should realize too, is that technology has skewed these numbers in modern time, they're probably exaggerrated now. It's easier to report crimes today than it was 20 and 30 years ago. You can report property crimes without even having to talk to the police now, you can report them online.

Criminals in that area know there are no consequences. dalton99a Jan 2024 #1
Doesn't say much about law enforcement in the area. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #2
Can't blame the police madville Jan 2024 #3
Blaming the victims. former9thward Jan 2024 #47
Crime is at all time lows Johnny2X2X Jan 2024 #4
And why does a big evil company need an excuse to close a store or restaurant? brooklynite Jan 2024 #5
They don't want to be seen as just closing branches in poor areas Johnny2X2X Jan 2024 #6
Are national stats a firm predicter for individual locations? ripcord Jan 2024 #7
Oh sure Johnny2X2X Jan 2024 #9
That should be a boom for small business Lurker Deluxe Jan 2024 #11
Was in San Fran a few years back Johnny2X2X Jan 2024 #12
Most likely it is your news source Lurker Deluxe Jan 2024 #18
Well, crime is down in Houston Johnny2X2X Jan 2024 #19
That is great, happy for whomever. Lurker Deluxe Jan 2024 #21
Thank you, you add anecdotal evidence to the post up thread Dave says Jan 2024 #26
In 2020, Texas and California were about tied for violent crime. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #42
?? Lurker Deluxe Jan 2024 #58
Your community isn't reporting and keeping track of shootings, thefts, and robberies? W_HAMILTON Jan 2024 #30
I have, truthfully, no idea Lurker Deluxe Jan 2024 #57
If you know what is going on with your local community because you participate in your local community... W_HAMILTON Jan 2024 #61
When did DC become red? MichMan Jan 2024 #46
Of course, property crime is down if it is not prosecuted. former9thward Jan 2024 #48
"As far as this store location's neighborhood, who knows" TwilightZone Jan 2024 #14
Is it? Johnny2X2X Jan 2024 #16
Police also want to be treated as Gods DBoon Jan 2024 #28
"As far as this store location's neighborhood, who knows" mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2024 #36
Maybe, but there is enough evidence both macro and micro that the narrative is bullshit. W_HAMILTON Jan 2024 #29
I live about 10 miles between various socioeconomic areas. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #10
Yes--it's a very localized thing. I was just in a Walgreens in Santa Fe, NM Wingus Dingus Jan 2024 #59
One reason they are doing this is to get laws passed that dsc Jan 2024 #8
Perception Johnny2X2X Jan 2024 #15
Nextdoor is a joke. Our neighborhood has porch pirates, auto thefts and a few break ins. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #25
Next door people are nuts "why is this woman walking past my house?" Stuff Demovictory9 Jan 2024 #33
Pretty much! LeftInTX Jan 2024 #38
True. In my rube red area posters add, "Gonna shoot her if she walks by again." Silent Type Jan 2024 #51
Porch pirates Johnny2X2X Jan 2024 #39
Yep! And they blame it on Biden too! LeftInTX Jan 2024 #40
Theft *should* be treated *MUCH* more harshly The Mouth Jan 2024 #63
Why would a burger joint want to get laws passed that treat theft more harshly? hardluck Jan 2024 #64
You might as well be asking "why does a big evil company need a PR department?" W_HAMILTON Jan 2024 #31
Crime elsewhere is irrelevant. TwilightZone Jan 2024 #13
Crime is not evenly distributed TheProle Jan 2024 #23
Murders are at a low Polybius Jan 2024 #27
Property crime like this is the lowest since 1961 Johnny2X2X Jan 2024 #41
I don't believe that for one bit Polybius Jan 2024 #43
FBI keeps stats Johnny2X2X Jan 2024 #44
"Additionally, this location remains a busy and profitable one for the company ..." mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2024 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Jan 2024 #45
Crime seems to be thriving in that particular neighborhood The Contrarian Jan 2024 #62
I've eaten there many times. Shame. Sympthsical Jan 2024 #17
And all the sports teams have left or leaving madville Jan 2024 #20
Yep, it's going to get worse, then bought up Sympthsical Jan 2024 #22
Had a coworker move to Lake Merritt madville Jan 2024 #24
You are blaming that on crime and not the community there being unwilling to pay the asking price to keep them? W_HAMILTON Jan 2024 #35
It's really the same thing madville Jan 2024 #53
No, it's absolutely not the same. W_HAMILTON Jan 2024 #54
Did you go to games there? madville Jan 2024 #56
And it doesn't matter. W_HAMILTON Jan 2024 #60
So a place known to be ripe with unattended cars filled with stuff Demovictory9 Jan 2024 #32
Why would it matter unless there is a criminal presence? MichMan Jan 2024 #49
Sounds like victim blaming. Ace Rothstein Jan 2024 #50
Not me. Just getting an understanding of what's happening at this location Demovictory9 Jan 2024 #52
This is the closest In n Out to the Oakland airport. Always a line 20+ cars deep in the drive-thru from open to close. MenloParque Jan 2024 #37
Being next door neighbors to an abandoned WalMart Supercenter doesn't help. hunter Jan 2024 #55
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