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174. That's a piss poor argument. Those people are protesting people being murdered. You ought to try listening to

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Mon Jan 22, 2024, 02:22 PM

Jan 2024

them. Biden is the best president of my lifetime but he's wrong on this.

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Biden Has a Michigan Problem [View all] applegrove Jan 2024 OP

Says the Wall Street Urinal, the source of this article. Ocelot II Jan 2024 #1

REC'D for correct pronunciation! dchill Jan 2024 #56

Are you saying the story isn't true? brooklynite Jan 2024 #69

is it just this republican rag's opinion pieces that we should accept as 'true' bigtree Jan 2024 #80

I do... because I know Slotkin. brooklynite Jan 2024 #82

that's no excuse for bringing republican news org propaganda against Democrats here. bigtree Jan 2024 #84

But you criticized Slotkin personally... brooklynite Jan 2024 #90

nice try, angling to make Slotkin the issue here bigtree Jan 2024 #92

I agree about the WSJ. H2O Man Jan 2024 #124

yeah, Slotkin is a peach bigtree Jan 2024 #125

I hear you! H2O Man Jan 2024 #162

Useless polls are distracting us. Maybe the polls are suggesting Joe should go MAGA? Ignore the polls and ... marble falls Jan 2024 #135

I'm sure she is worried qazplm135 Jan 2024 #178

Michigan is a top state for arab american immigrants, Yoyoyo77 Jan 2024 #127

And then there's TFG who wants to ban Muslims elias7 Jan 2024 #133

They probably won't vote. Too many low info voters don't think. We've seen it too many times. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #183

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2024 #189

Gosh, the Library opened early today! FSogol Jan 2024 #190

Joe has very popular Dem. Gov. Whitmer on his side so I'd disregard WSJ bs. brush Jan 2024 #2

Then why is Biden up by 4 in the latest Michigan poll? Quixote1818 Jan 2024 #3

But only in one poll. Look down the list of polls. Trump wins in most applegrove Jan 2024 #6

the rest are Detroit News polls which has endorsed republicans for almost 150 years bigtree Jan 2024 #15

Detroit News had Hillary beating Trump by 10 points TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #26

yeah, their polls suck bigtree Jan 2024 #34

How does pointing out that they had a flawed poll boost their integrity? edisdead Jan 2024 #45

That is correct, and it is concerning. That being said, the actually race for president isn't yet in JohnSJ Jan 2024 #22

Yes, many people are not truly paying attention yet. Midnight Writer Jan 2024 #77

What is he supposed to do? Blaukraut Jan 2024 #4

The Middle East is exploding womanofthehills Jan 2024 #23

No, he needs to go all in on supporting Israel's TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #27

If the Middle East is at war, it's going to send up the price of gas and everything else. Beakybird Jan 2024 #55

In order to win MI? He needs to call for Netanyahu's resignation KPN Jan 2024 #134

The country is very divided on this womanofthehills Jan 2024 #191

the youth are calling Hamas justified for 10/7 MistakenLamb Jan 2024 #160

+1 betsuni Jan 2024 #119

I really get the impression that the "news" media is becoming less and less a purveyor of news DFW Jan 2024 #5

Well we know the WSJ is just a hi-brow version of Fox. emulatorloo Jan 2024 #7

But, alas, no longer alone in carrying Republican water DFW Jan 2024 #14

Excellent observation eom JustAnotherGen Jan 2024 #50

why is this republican rag bashing Biden allowed here? bigtree Jan 2024 #20

It's not about bashing Biden - it's about the scary news of Trump womanofthehills Jan 2024 #39

what do you suggest we do? edisdead Jan 2024 #49

no. It's about a known republican news paper's opinion piece spreading negative propaganda about Biden bigtree Jan 2024 #66

I don't watch the polls. sheshe2 Jan 2024 #152

So we cannot post any bad news and discuss ways to applegrove Jan 2024 #71

that's not what's happening bigtree Jan 2024 #83

Honestly, this doesnt qualify as news- it is opinion and I dont think Demsrule86 Jan 2024 #140

'These are not the droids we are looking for ..... move along, move along..... ' nt kelly1mm Jan 2024 #126

The young are not into traditional cable news womanofthehills Jan 2024 #24

Give a listen to Bob Cesca's interview with Rachel Bitcofer yellowdogintexas Jan 2024 #107

Social media is crap when it comes to purveying news. shrike3 Jan 2024 #157

You too, eh? shrike3 Jan 2024 #156

Hard to overlook DFW Jan 2024 #182

Yawn, more high MOE / low sample / GQP weighted polls uponit7771 Jan 2024 #8

If other elected and insider Democrats are concerned, it's no yawning matter Silent3 Jan 2024 #13

I trust Biden's campaign polling ***SCIENCE*** and their actions that don't show such concern in Michigan article does uponit7771 Jan 2024 #17

lol, 'elected and insider Democrats' bigtree Jan 2024 #18

So other than the one noted person edisdead Jan 2024 #54

We should not Yawn womanofthehills Jan 2024 #44

No it's not, too little specifics and few to no solid sources. When JB changes tactics in state I'll look uponit7771 Jan 2024 #63

What are you personally going to do BlueIdaho Jan 2024 #87

So the folks who elected Whitmer are going to reject Biden? Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #9

States swing all the time. Don't fool yourself into thinking the political world is binary. Bucky Jan 2024 #10

That's my point- this isn't binary, overconfident vs. "MIchigan problem" Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #16

Yep, and trump ignored the virus, but wants everyone to forget his part in millions of Americans dying. brush Jan 2024 #33

Trump's not just fooling dumb people. Bucky Jan 2024 #43

RIght. We outnumber the criminal defendants supporters. And women are still pissed about him bragging... brush Jan 2024 #46

Why do you think the folks who elected Trump in 2016 TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #28

Because he lost in 2020 by an even larger margin, remember that? brush Jan 2024 #35

It's not 2020 anymore. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #48

It's even farther from 2016, which is before trump became a criminal defendant indicted for 91 felonies. brush Jan 2024 #52

None of that changes the fact Biden has extremely bad numbers. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #57

We still outnumber magats. And Biden will beat your favorite again. But keep rooting for the defendant. brush Jan 2024 #59

I'm not cheering for that. I'm just not burying my head in the sand. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #61

Everyone of your posts are touting trump's advantages. Remember this is a site promoting Dem candidates... brush Jan 2024 #62

This is a lie. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #85

Again, try posting the positive things Biden has done for a change, not all negative pls. brush Jan 2024 #97

I have in plenty of threads. This thread is about a problem he's facing. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #114

You do what you do, and so will I. Biden will beat the crminal defendant once again. brush Jan 2024 #115

I hope so. But he isn't right now. And that should concern a lot of people. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #121

Koch's Americans for Prosperity just issued that trump is a loser in Nov. brush Jan 2024 #123

Hmmmm, are you in the habit of believing Koch brothers propaganda? When Koch kelly1mm Jan 2024 #130

I campaigned against Americans for Properity for Obama and for Hillary at DMV and Social Security offices... brush Jan 2024 #131

What gave us Trump was an anti-Democratic party faction who worked to undermine Clinton. Demsrule86 Jan 2024 #139

This is just hubris. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #169

What problem? A bullshit poll with shitty internals is not a problem. It is created Demsrule86 Jan 2024 #141

There's more than just one bullshit poll. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #144

And they are all done the same way with bullshit aggregates...they don't even keep it Demsrule86 Jan 2024 #153

lol MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #168

Why do you presume that those leaning third party spooky3 Jan 2024 #86

Because that's what the polls are showing. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #88

But (a) experts agree that polls this far ahead of the election spooky3 Jan 2024 #91

Polls CAN be a decent predictive measure for how the electorate is feeling at the moment. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #117

You are cherry picking data or offering opinions without data, which is spooky3 Jan 2024 #118

I am not cherry picking any data. You asked a question, I gave an answer. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #122

Biden won Michigan by three points bigtree Jan 2024 #37

Why do you think they will? Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #70

So after women and families voted to protect rights at State level Freethinker65 Jan 2024 #11

Elissa Slotkin should focus on her campaign. Not blame Biden. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #12

THIS is the ONLY takeaway that DU should be pointing out! edisdead Jan 2024 #58

She is focusing on her own campaign..;. brooklynite Jan 2024 #73

They'll see how fucked up it can Get if the Traitor Cha Jan 2024 #120

Haven't Democrats won edhopper Jan 2024 #19

They've won one of the last two presidential elections TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #29

Yes edhopper Jan 2024 #31

I'm not sure TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #32

That is a problem edhopper Jan 2024 #36

I agree Aepps22 Jan 2024 #41

Exactly. The last one by 7 million+ votes. And women are still pissed at trump bragging about snatching away abortion... brush Jan 2024 #38

Nobody is pitching for Trump on this site TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #98

Not legitimately, they haven't Seeking Serenity Jan 2024 #111

How was the 2016 election not legitimate? Did President Trump not win the Electoral College kelly1mm Jan 2024 #128

2016 doesn't even deserve a response Seeking Serenity Jan 2024 #132

You have a VERY interesting definition of legitimate. We will have to agree to disagree. nt kelly1mm Jan 2024 #176

There are tons of middle easterners and Muslims in Michigan LeftInTX Jan 2024 #64

Exactly. applegrove Jan 2024 #74

Exactly. applegrove Jan 2024 #75

for Joe enid602 Jan 2024 #21

Joe doesn't support a ceasefire TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #30

Biden enid602 Jan 2024 #40

Which actions are those? Has he called for a ceasefire? TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #99

Pressure enid602 Jan 2024 #100

and that has gotten exactly what? How many Palestinians have died during that time? Look kelly1mm Jan 2024 #129

So who made you spokesperson for all "Democrats" and 'reasonable' people?? DemocraticPatriot Jan 2024 #180

OMG...Dems in disarray. pecosbob Jan 2024 #25

Bullshit Ferrets are Cool Jan 2024 #42

...and I'm sure there's a red wave coming too. spanone Jan 2024 #47

The polls never pointed to a red wave. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #51

Question... edisdead Jan 2024 #53

Well guess we should all just quit vercetti2021 Jan 2024 #60

Then campaign harder and get louder BootOutTheGoons Jan 2024 #65

This. edisdead Jan 2024 #67

DU addicted to panic vercetti2021 Jan 2024 #79

Right you are BootOutTheGoons Jan 2024 #95

Michigan is closely divided MichMan Jan 2024 #159

yes he does. Muslim Americans in Michigan will not vote for Biden because of Israel's was on Gaza. Autumn Jan 2024 #68

These people are fucking stupid vercetti2021 Jan 2024 #72

Guess they forgot about Trump's Muslim ban? nt Quixote1818 Jan 2024 #76

Idiots. Elessar Zappa Jan 2024 #78

That would make sense. EllieBC Jan 2024 #89

Yes, but they did turn out for Biden in 2020 Autumn Jan 2024 #96

Great people. Just hate the LGBTQ EllieBC Jan 2024 #105

Of course not vercetti2021 Jan 2024 #116

Yeah, like Christian hate the LGBTQ. No biggie there. amirite? Autumn Jan 2024 #148

No that actually is important. EllieBC Jan 2024 #186

those non Biden Muslims are also anti Democratic Party MistakenLamb Jan 2024 #161

Oh please President Joe has been great for Michigan. Botany Jan 2024 #81

Guys, what's happening is there's a large pro-Democrat constituency of Arabs in Michigan LeftRightLeft Jan 2024 #93

so, guys, 'Arabs' in Michigan should be more worried about Trump's promise bigtree Jan 2024 #94

They are citizens, Trumps Muslim ban will not impact them. Autumn Jan 2024 #101

that's really myopic, after all, the suggestion is these Americans are so jazzed about Gaza bigtree Jan 2024 #104

I've seen interviews with those people. What is absurd is thinking that them not voting or voting 3rd party Autumn Jan 2024 #163

who handpicked those people for those interviews? bigtree Jan 2024 #167

You'll have your answer after the election. Autumn Jan 2024 #170

no, Autumn bigtree Jan 2024 #171

That's a piss poor argument. Those people are protesting people being murdered. You ought to try listening to Autumn Jan 2024 #174

first of all, Biden isn't murdering anyone, so enough with the hyperbole bigtree Jan 2024 #177

Yeah, you go tell them that. Autumn Jan 2024 #164

why not? bigtree Jan 2024 #165

Again, they won't care if Trump puts in a Muslim ban. They are US citizens. Autumn Jan 2024 #166

again, then, it's sophistry that they care at all about Gaza. bigtree Jan 2024 #172

Well one thing for sure, you would know sophistry. I have no desire to keep up with you. Have a nice day. Autumn Jan 2024 #175

I know blaming Biden for Israel in Gaza is sophistry bigtree Jan 2024 #179

they want another ME war against Israel that's their goal MistakenLamb Jan 2024 #181

Dictators can do whatever they want when they gain power NickB79 Jan 2024 #112

Trump will amp up the anti-Muslim rhetoric, which will impact them. shrike3 Jan 2024 #155

I haven't researched Trump's Gaza plan, but I'm sure it calls for utter-destruction of Gaza. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #184

Any American interested in justice TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #102

Good luck w/THAT rhetoric. LeftRightLeft Jan 2024 #103

Doubt it. pwb Jan 2024 #106

Remember, people Seeking Serenity Jan 2024 #108

Isn't this the same state where the GOP is broke and trying to sell a building it doesn't even own? shrike3 Jan 2024 #109

Gotta be a fool to believe this bullshit! Xoan Jan 2024 #110

From what I've been reading, the Republicans have a Michigan problem with the State Party in absolute tatters peggysue2 Jan 2024 #113

Made that same point upthread. shrike3 Jan 2024 #145

Sorry for the repeat then, shrike peggysue2 Jan 2024 #146

That's all right. I don't know that that many people read my post. shrike3 Jan 2024 #149

The RNC will step in...Trust me! LeftInTX Jan 2024 #188

Too many people ignore warning signs Tribetime Jan 2024 #136

We are at war - never underestimate your enemy dwayneb Jan 2024 #138

Fortunately, the Michigan GOP is cooperating. shrike3 Jan 2024 #150

What warning signs? Winning elections? Roe Roe your vote. Demsrule86 Jan 2024 #142

Real Clear Politics average of polls is the best resource dwayneb Jan 2024 #137

Real Clear politics takes money from the GOP and is slanted in their polling. Demsrule86 Jan 2024 #143

They are shit polls using questionable aggregates. Demsrule86 Jan 2024 #147

Ok, but it's the WSJ, so there's that. Joinfortmill Jan 2024 #151

The GOP coffers are broke in Michigan. As is Arizona. flying_wahini Jan 2024 #154

All of these stories are frustrating because they don't attempt to answer the one question that should be getting asked: Mad_Machine76 Jan 2024 #158

Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Urinal Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2024 #173

Wasn't Jared supposed to broker peace in the Middle East? Nixie Jan 2024 #185

Why is anything Biden's fault? betsuni Jan 2024 #187