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Zeitghost

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71. You're grasping at straws here

Mon Jan 22, 2024, 03:24 PM

Jan 2024

If someone said, "you need to be 16 and have a license to drive a car", posting pictures of kids in a Powerwheels toy is not a convincing counter argument.

Context is everything, it was not a prop that killed the Ms. Hutchins, it was a firearm. So it's logical to conclude any discussions revolving the use of guns on movie sets would not include props that are incapable of causing harm.

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Alec Baldwin indicted for involuntary manslaughter. [View all] mobeau69 Jan 2024 OP

Whoa. Scrivener7 Jan 2024 #1

He's Faux pas Jan 2024 #2

What does this even mean? MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #7

"Involuntary manslaughter" means guilty of something that wasn't your fault. Towlie Jan 2024 #72

Yep. Massive a-hole. Oneironaut Jan 2024 #21

Wasn't this dismissed? Now they're taking a second shot at him. brush Jan 2024 #3

I can't imagine they get a conviction Renew Deal Jan 2024 #4

Unless they have actual evidence of his official role in all matters involved with the guns--I can't hlthe2b Jan 2024 #5

I agree with you Stinky The Clown Jan 2024 #6

Who is doing the politicizing? former9thward Jan 2024 #12

Post removed Post removed Jan 2024 #13

Every official involved is an elected Democrat. former9thward Jan 2024 #14

No. I know the history as do others here and I'm not your damned personal researcher. hlthe2b Jan 2024 #15

I know the history too. former9thward Jan 2024 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Emile Jan 2024 #22

I googled that and found nothing that backs your claim. Emile Jan 2024 #23

What? former9thward Jan 2024 #31

Where is the prosecutor in your link? Emile Jan 2024 #32

Prosecutors are not elected. former9thward Jan 2024 #35

So there is no way of knowing the politics of the prosecutor. Emile Jan 2024 #36

I live in the real world. former9thward Jan 2024 #39

Me too. Emile Jan 2024 #40

Its because he talked to the prosecutors Mosby Jan 2024 #8

Weak sauce. The inexperienced armorer should've never bought live rounds to the set... brush Jan 2024 #9

Nobody should point a gun at another person Kaleva Jan 2024 #11

Except that children don't understand it Renew Deal Jan 2024 #28

I wonder how many were taught the safety rules Kaleva Jan 2024 #42

Ah yes, if only toddlers were taught gun safety, none of this would have happened. Renew Deal Jan 2024 #47

Do you think Baldwin should be held responsible? Kaleva Jan 2024 #49

This again edhopper Jan 2024 #37

I fault everybody who handles guns like they aren't dangerous Kaleva Jan 2024 #41

The shot was to point wt the camera. edhopper Jan 2024 #46

So for money, you'd point a gun at someone? Kaleva Jan 2024 #48

If I were in a movie edhopper Jan 2024 #51

So for the right price, you'd point a gun at someone Kaleva Jan 2024 #53

You clearly don't know how films work. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2024 #55

Really? edhopper Jan 2024 #56

All safety codes, including Hollywood prohibit pointing a gun at someone ripcord Jan 2024 #10

Huh? They point guns at each other all the time on Emile Jan 2024 #18

No Zeitghost Jan 2024 #63

Single shot guns can fire live rounds or blanks. Emile Jan 2024 #64

Yes Zeitghost Jan 2024 #67

really? Celerity Jan 2024 #24

LOL, blew that bs argument 😂. Emile Jan 2024 #25

Not really. Kaleva Jan 2024 #52

Are those working guns? Kaleva Jan 2024 #50

Almost all gun can shoot blanks and live rounds. Emile Jan 2024 #58

Not the prop guns Zeitghost Jan 2024 #61

Single shot pistols used in Westerns can shoot both Emile Jan 2024 #62

I don't think you understand my point Zeitghost Jan 2024 #65

You do understand Zeitghost Jan 2024 #66

Many times guns capable of killing if loaded with live rounds and not blanks, are used. Celerity Jan 2024 #68

ORLY? Shermann Jan 2024 #26

Do you have a link to a Hollywood safety code for gun use? Renew Deal Jan 2024 #29

Here you go ripcord Jan 2024 #43

Could you point to these so called codes edhopper Jan 2024 #38

B.S. They point guns at each other all the time on movie sets. pinkstarburst Jan 2024 #44

Obviously you dont understand movie magic ripcord Jan 2024 #45

You used no limiting or qualifying terms (ie prop, non-functional, etc) in your initial reply. Celerity Jan 2024 #54

Actually they aren't modified but are built not to fire just for movies ripcord Jan 2024 #59

A prop gun is not a gun Zeitghost Jan 2024 #69

Non sequitur. The word 'prop' was not used by the poster I initially replied replied to. Celerity Jan 2024 #70

You're grasping at straws here Zeitghost Jan 2024 #71

Now they are claiming he pulled the trigger Generic Brad Jan 2024 #30

Gun broke during testing a long time ago. LisaL Jan 2024 #33

I honestly felt his role as producer would lead to him being charged if he were to be charged dsc Jan 2024 #17

He was one of many producers. LisaL Jan 2024 #19

I honestly don't know one way or the other dsc Jan 2024 #20

I do not think he was in charge of hiring. LisaL Jan 2024 #34

I mostly agree, but he did decide to point the gun at a person and thumb the hammer back. SYFROYH Jan 2024 #57

Oh, good god!! Lunabell Jan 2024 #27

Had this been Wesley Snipes LeftRightLeft Jan 2024 #60