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ColinC

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38. Dead serious

Mon Jan 22, 2024, 09:01 PM

Jan 2024

As dead as the civilians some are justifying murdering.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html?unlocked_article_code=1.P00.C46W.DUuexcftN-sm&smid=url-share

Allowing the payments — billions of dollars over roughly a decade — was a gamble by Mr. Netanyahu that a steady flow of money would maintain peace in Gaza, the eventual launching point of the Oct. 7 attacks, and keep Hamas focused on governing, not fighting.

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Scoop: Israel proposes 2-month fighting pause in Gaza for release of all hostages [View all] tritsofme Jan 2024 OP

There were protests just yesterday in Israel by hostage families WarGamer Jan 2024 #1

You really think Israel has been doing nothing? former9thward Jan 2024 #3

tell the hostage families. WarGamer Jan 2024 #5

So Now This Is Again Back to HAMAs Cha Jan 2024 #7

And what will happen? Anything? Behind the Aegis Jan 2024 #2

I just can't see Hamas allowing this to happen Torchlight Jan 2024 #4

The fact that Israel is creating terms to stop the "fighting" essentially means ColinC Jan 2024 #6

This is ON Fucking HAMAS.. REALEASE the HOSTAGES!! Cha Jan 2024 #8

They seem to be looking for a "ceasefire" where Hamas kills Jews with impunity, but Israel is prohibited from responding tritsofme Jan 2024 #11

It's Sickening. Cha Jan 2024 #13

Killing with impunity IS sickening ColinC Jan 2024 #16

This is ALL ON FUCKING HAMAS.. They Strarted THIS Cha Jan 2024 #19

And why does Hamas exist? Because Israel worked for years to keep them in power ColinC Jan 2024 #25

Directly blaming Israel for the terrorist attacks of Oct 7 on their own people NickB79 Jan 2024 #64

"HAMAS EXISTS TO KILL All The Jews". Cha Jan 2024 #82

Who's killing who with impunity exactly? Israel has killed over 25,000 ColinC Jan 2024 #15

It's a war Arazi Jan 2024 #17

it is at best unjustified asymmetrical warfare where the vast majority of deaths are civilians. ColinC Jan 2024 #21

Right, it seems like some folks are frustrated that Hamas isn't better at killing Jews tritsofme Jan 2024 #22

Post removed Post removed Jan 2024 #23

Are you serious? Beastly Boy Jan 2024 #35

Dead serious ColinC Jan 2024 #38

You may be dead serious about repeatedly citing the article that Beastly Boy Jan 2024 #67

The Kremlin propaganda is strong here Arazi Jan 2024 #39

Sure As Shit Is. Cha Jan 2024 #84

🕯️🕊️🇮🇱💙 Cha Jan 2024 #91

This post is appallingly misinformed TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #42

It's even got multiple recs Arazi Jan 2024 #47

.. Cha Jan 2024 #92

REC TY Cha Jan 2024 #85

Israel was fully justified in responding to a massive terrorist attack Arazi Jan 2024 #26

And why does Hamas exist? Because Israel worked for years to keep them in power ColinC Jan 2024 #31

Hamas has received BILLIONS in foreign aid Arazi Jan 2024 #34

Regardless, Israel and Hamas both don't mind what is happening. ColinC Jan 2024 #37

That's fucked up equating the two Arazi Jan 2024 #43

So what's the plan? 25,000 civilians are dead and Hamas is still kicking. ColinC Jan 2024 #48

I guess we'll find out Arazi Jan 2024 #54

It's weird. ColinC Jan 2024 #58

Newsflash! Netanyahu is Israel's PM Arazi Jan 2024 #62

There are not 25,000 civilians dead. madaboutharry Jan 2024 #61

Keep telling yourself that. AloeVera Jan 2024 #72

Ridiculous! No Way Can you Sapeak Cha Jan 2024 #93

Isn't Israel's "support" essentially not stopping humanitarian aid AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2024 #40

Your what ifs are fantastical what aboutisms ColinC Jan 2024 #51

Did you even read the article you cited? Beastly Boy Jan 2024 #65

So it's ok to kill civilians with impunity if 'it's a war'? Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #95

I don't understand that reasoning. AloeVera Jan 2024 #60

Hamas did not kill with impunity? MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2024 #81

What has Israel been doing for 3 months? AloeVera Jan 2024 #88

I don't get your analogy. Beastly Boy Jan 2024 #24

Israel can't TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #41

If Hamas kills all of the hostages, how many more dead civilians will it take to adequately "respond" ColinC Jan 2024 #44

As many as it takes for Israel to feel secure Arazi Jan 2024 #49

"As many [dead civilians] as it takes for Israel to feel secure" ColinC Jan 2024 #53

Of course I hear myself Arazi Jan 2024 #55

"It's a fucking war that [insert failed historical asymmetrical war enemy here] started and we are going to finish!" ColinC Jan 2024 #63

"We're" not in this war Arazi Jan 2024 #66

That's what I said. But back on topic: ColinC Jan 2024 #71

I'm not in the IDF Arazi Jan 2024 #77

So what's your solution TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #50

My solution is to attack Hamas, not civilians. Killing civilians is not doing anything but empowering Hamas ColinC Jan 2024 #74

Ok, two thumbs up. But how does Israel do that TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #75

Establish good faith with the Palestinians and start honoring the treaties it broke would be a good start ColinC Jan 2024 #76

Which treaties did it break? TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #78

The Palestinian Authority is a nonstarter Arazi Jan 2024 #79

Fuck the Gang Raping Mutilating, Butchering Sadistic Cha Jan 2024 #94

Does anyone really believe all the hostages are still alive? ripcord Jan 2024 #9

No. Most are probably dead. Behind the Aegis Jan 2024 #10

Most likely not. sheshe2 Jan 2024 #30

Nope. EllieBC Jan 2024 #89

It's a great offer Mosby Jan 2024 #12

From whom? mcar Jan 2024 #14

The Saudis and Russians have both called for releasing hostages. Mosby Jan 2024 #18

Thanks for this mcar Jan 2024 #20

Why should Arab states take Israel's refugees? David__77 Jan 2024 #27

At the moment, to get them out of a battle zone and save their lives Arazi Jan 2024 #28

They are Israel's refugees, absolutely. Just as is everyone in West Banka and East Jerusalem. David__77 Jan 2024 #29

Nope, Hamas' refugees and Hamas' war Arazi Jan 2024 #32

I am glad that Biden's administration has made strong statements against depopulation plans. David__77 Jan 2024 #33

On that we can agree Arazi Jan 2024 #36

Why is it "interesting"? AloeVera Jan 2024 #46

What ethnic cleansing? TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #59

I ask you to... AloeVera Jan 2024 #68

Hamas' stated, official policy TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #73

Why Should Any Country Take In Refugees, Sir? The Magistrate Jan 2024 #45

If there was assurance that people would have right of return, perhaps the consideration would be different. David__77 Jan 2024 #52

But There Never Is Such Assurance, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2024 #57

Out of curiosity, do you think the Jews forced to flee thucythucy Jan 2024 #69

In those situations the lives out value the cause TheKentuckian Jan 2024 #70

The problem is the belief that the presence of non-combatants of West Bank and Gaza is a threat. David__77 Jan 2024 #80

Nobody Believes That, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2024 #83

In Hamas propaganda films, they're in uniform Arazi Jan 2024 #87

That's a good question. Eko Jan 2024 #90

Because once the hostages are released and accounted for, IDF will withdraw, right? marble falls Jan 2024 #56

"Scoop: Israel proposes 2-month fighting pause in Gaza for release of all hostages" Cha Jan 2024 #86