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In reply to the discussion: I'm feeling much more optimistic Biden will win now [View all]MyNameIsJonas
(744 posts)Four years ago today, Biden led Trump by four points in the average of polls.
In fact, there was no point in the h2h average between Biden and Trump where Trump led Biden:
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/trump-vs-biden
What I know is that for months, we've been told to ignore polls this far out and every other sign Biden might be in trouble.
Well sure, polls should be taken with skepticism this far out. But it's just crazy to not see at least some major warning signs for Biden.
I hear how Trump is more unpopular than ever and yet his polling vs Biden only continues to improve.
Take Ipsos, which is a fairly respected polling firm. In their December poll, Trump led Biden 38-36.
In their poll out today, Trump leads Biden 40-34.
Now, since there's a huge undecided total from this poll, it's not something I would freak out over.
But it does show that Biden isn't growing his support. He's down two points. Trump is up two points.
Dismissing these numbers is not smart. Biden is struggling and so many of you are just telling us to ignore what's right in front of us.
Every month, it's the same since September: ignore polls this far out.
And here we are at the end of January, four months later, and Biden's position has actually weakened.
Still being told this far out doesn't matter.
Well I'm terrified we're going to wake up on election day with Biden down 5 to Trump, and down in major swing states.
I do not feel confident at all in Biden's chances. That doesn't mean I think he's going to lose but I've yet to see any substantial reason to believe he's going to win.
At this point in 2020, I absolutely thought Biden or any Democrat for that matter could beat Trump.
And on this day in 2012, I thought Obama would win too.
Of course, the polls had both winning. But back then, DU wasn't against polls. It was only conservatives who attacked polls.
But I feel like Biden is hurtling toward the same spot Trump found himself in four years ago and so many here are ignoring the warning signs.