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Voltaire2

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101. Hyperloop was utter bullshit.

Fri Jan 26, 2024, 05:49 AM

Jan 2024

It was never serious. Another Musk whimsy. The concept has been around for a long time, the technical problems have never been resolved. Expensive low capacity low reliability system.

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No one wants to talk about why Boeing planes fail [View all] edhopper Jan 2024 OP

It's always the same, cost cutting that cheapens the product to pay the MBAs and Accountants bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #1

The bean counters and CEOs are vampires. nt SunSeeker Jan 2024 #16

If it's Boeing, I ain't going. WarGamer Jan 2024 #2

A-380 Hobo Jan 2024 #3

Oh I'm intrigued... WarGamer Jan 2024 #7

My family just flew on the A380 to Spain... SKKY Jan 2024 #73

I saw one when I flew to Boston Logan Airport. Could not believe my eyes how big that thing is! OMGWTF Jan 2024 #81

The 747 was always something I wanted to fly in. The A380 would be a decent substitute ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #87

I flew on an A380 from Madrid to Frankfurt... r�is�n_dubh Jan 2024 #102

People talk about why Boeing planes fail all the time. maxsolomon Jan 2024 #4

I am sure you do edhopper Jan 2024 #5

Lots of union work still being done here at 3 different plants. maxsolomon Jan 2024 #9

it's really the design of the 737-Max lapfog_1 Jan 2024 #54

Smart Aviation Pro Jan 2024 #14

If you have Netflix, there's a documentary about Boeing and their problems. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #6

Downfall: The Case Against Boeing on Netflix Phoenix61 Jan 2024 #8

Downfall? Does it end with Hitler wondering why his planes keep falling out of the sky? /nt localroger Jan 2024 #10

Hitler reacts! Kennah Jan 2024 #11

Fegelein!!1! (nt) Pinback Jan 2024 #56

(pointing at map) "Don't worry, the 737Max will save us" "Mein Fueher, the 737..." ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #88

Hitler never listened to his top pilots! nt Shermann Jan 2024 #91

there's nothing wrong with outsourcing. it drives competiton and improves the economy Takket Jan 2024 #12

There is no way the QA/Compliance group is not all over suppliers keeping up to ISO standards. FHRRK Jan 2024 #20

Outsourcing Quiet man Jan 2024 #90

The 737 is not built in South Carolina. They;'re built in Renton, WA. brooklynite Jan 2024 #13

Not true. The 737 is only ASSEMBLED here in WA. That changed years ago. pnwmom Jan 2024 #22

I believe "assembled" means "putting in the bolts". brooklynite Jan 2024 #47

The fuselage with the defective plug was already assembled before it arrived in Washington. pnwmom Jan 2024 #51

Correct Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2024 #64

"Boeing, not Spirit, mis-installed piece that blew off Alaska MAX 9 jet, industry source says" -- Seattle Times brooklynite Jan 2024 #68

If that report is correct, "It was removed for repair." pnwmom Jan 2024 #74

Now...nt greblach Jan 2024 #45

Boeing's biggest problem is that McDonnell Douglas bought them with Boeing's money. nt Gore1FL Jan 2024 #15

Yep. nt greblach Jan 2024 #46

The door that fell off was made by a subcontractor, Spirit AeroSystems Yavin4 Jan 2024 #17

somewhat the point the OP was making FHRRK Jan 2024 #21

Yet a higher percentage of Spirit's workforce is unionized FBaggins Jan 2024 #103

I think Spirit was spun off. The Wichita operation used to be Boeing. mn9driver Jan 2024 #26

The CEO of Spirit was Trump's former Sec. of Defense Yavin4 Jan 2024 #38

Boeing had the idiotic idea that Spirit could make the planes more cheaply pnwmom Jan 2024 #65

Yes Boeing spun off Spirit AeroSystems into a subsidiary and then an independent company IronLionZion Jan 2024 #83

I've been reading lots of recent articles about this, including at least three in the NYT. nt pnwmom Jan 2024 #18

Trains, people. Give them some competition. Joinfortmill Jan 2024 #19

It won't help if the trains are built using the same management strategies. nt pnwmom Jan 2024 #23

But trains don't fall outta the sky Tansy_Gold Jan 2024 #24

True. But the good European ones travel at very high speeds pnwmom Jan 2024 #25

I don't think the US currently has the rail infrastructure Tansy_Gold Jan 2024 #34

The same quality problems would likely exist with whoever was outsourced to engineer and build the infrastructure. PTL_Mancuso Jan 2024 #59

That's a rather bleak outlook, but it doesn't change the basic premise: Tansy_Gold Jan 2024 #60

And it doesn't change the fact that planes can fly to many more places pnwmom Jan 2024 #66

Sorry to be coming back to this two weeks later, but . . . . Tansy_Gold Feb 2024 #108

"But trains don't fall outta the sky" That does not make them safer EX500rider Jan 2024 #105

We subsidize the air industry and let rail rot. orthoclad Jan 2024 #29

I love train travel. Tansy_Gold Jan 2024 #36

Train travel was far better orthoclad Jan 2024 #79

Amtrak has dining cars on some routes Tansy_Gold Jan 2024 #80

"Cafe service" is awful. orthoclad Jan 2024 #96

I'll consider trains when they can get me to LA in 5 hours DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 2024 #32

The technology exists to get you there in 2 hours.... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2024 #78

Hyperloop was utter bullshit. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #101

Until it isn't A HERETIC I AM Jan 2024 #104

A lot of people are talking about it - there's even a netflix documentary. Ocelot II Jan 2024 #27

How am I going to get to Europe on a train? vanlassie Jan 2024 #28

Take a boat. orthoclad Jan 2024 #30

Airbus edhopper Jan 2024 #33

Take this one! Wonder Why Jan 2024 #35

Hahaha! vanlassie Jan 2024 #50

yes EX500rider Jan 2024 #106

You hit the nail on the head montanacowboy Jan 2024 #31

Your sister wasn't going to Europe on a 737... brooklynite Jan 2024 #37

If it's Boeing she ain't going montanacowboy Jan 2024 #41

Single aisles to Europe including the 737 is becoming more common BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #71

737s from the east coast to Europe are doable. Not from Seattle. brooklynite Jan 2024 #72

The 787 RobinA Jan 2024 #85

Is that the plane or the airline? brooklynite Jan 2024 #86

Exactly, airlines can order them in either high or low density layouts EX500rider Jan 2024 #92

787 battery fires aren't significant? ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #89

Yes & no, they were a issue but their were no fatalities because of them EX500rider Jan 2024 #107

The problem was what preceded the HQ move VMA131Marine Jan 2024 #39

Yep, you got it. Even Businessweek agrees with you Hahn_Bikey Jan 2024 #62

QA? moondust Jan 2024 #40

In the late 90s I went though their factory and told them "this is a national pride" lostnfound Jan 2024 #42

They contract most of the engineers now AKwannabe Jan 2024 #67

Working from home is not a 'bad' employee NT GenThePerservering Jan 2024 #93

Contracted employees was the topic AKwannabe Jan 2024 #98

Wow. That's a problem lostnfound Jan 2024 #99

The plug door on the 737 Max and 737-900 are the same. Scruffy1 Jan 2024 #43

There is definitely something to what you are saying, though the ultimate cause... keep_left Jan 2024 #44

Corporatists... GiqueCee Jan 2024 #48

USAir 427 PennRalphie Jan 2024 #49

To be fair to Boeing, the 737 rudder issues were caused by a serious flaw in a part... keep_left Jan 2024 #53

Boeing designed the failed part and subbed out the manufacturing. PennRalphie Jan 2024 #57

Well, like I said, it was their plane and they signed off on it. I do know... keep_left Jan 2024 #61

Yes! K&R Grumpy Old Guy Jan 2024 #52

Troubles for years cbabe Jan 2024 #55

The AF would inspect the planes pfitz59 Jan 2024 #63

Yes. A veritable mess. cbabe Jan 2024 #70

makes sense to me-- rightwing capitalism fuckery strikes again LymphocyteLover Jan 2024 #58

Boeing's manufacturing, ethical lapses go back decades dalton99a Jan 2024 #69

The bottom line, GREED republianmushroom Jan 2024 #75

And lack of regulation orthoclad Jan 2024 #97

New article in Seattle Times: Whistleblower says Boeing installed the plug door wrong, Ocelot II Jan 2024 #76

I Heard Someone Say Last Night Deep State Witch Jan 2024 #77

As long as they found "efficiencies" and "synergies" and "ROI" with this "paradigm shift" IronLionZion Jan 2024 #82

Boeing was converted KT2000 Jan 2024 #84

No one wants to talk about why Boeing planes fail Ummm...HUH? GenThePerservering Jan 2024 #94

You's be surprized how little edhopper Jan 2024 #95

Three words: PISS POOR MANAGEMENT Emile Jan 2024 #100