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155. He tore his ass with many with that both sider, who wants either old codger show last night .....

Tue Feb 13, 2024, 05:25 PM

Feb 2024

Daily Kos
Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 9:40:36a PST

WTF, Jon Stewart?

I was a huge fan of Jon Stewart on the Daily Show. His style of attacking Republican politicians and other right-wing nuts was basic and perfect—he quoted them, and then brought the receipts in the form of video showing how wrong/stupid/dishonest they’d been. Jon did his homework. As far as I’m concerned, he showed exactly how to respond to the crazies.

So I was really looking forward to his part-time return last night. Imagine my disappointment when he spent half the show on a classic “both sides” attack on the age and competence of both Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Jon’s audience is of course heavily skewed toward Democrats, and his vicious "reporting” on Biden is unlikely to convince any of them to vote for Trump. But if he induces any voters to just stay home, or vote for a third party, or cast no vote for President, that amounts to supporting Trump.

Concerns about Pres. Biden’s age and faculties are not in themselves illegitimate. If we were in a contested primary, with other progressive Dems running against Mr. Biden, fine. But we all know, and Stewart acknowledged, that the candidates are already in place. There’s only one choice—Biden or Trump, and anything less than full support of Biden is support of Trump. There is absolutely no issue on which Trump is better than or even as good as Biden for progressives.

I simply cannot imagine what the hell Stewart was trying to do. He even had Jordan Klepper do a mock attack on him, which included referring to his both-siderism in the Bush v. Gore election, so it’s not as if Stewart was unaware of the criticism he was likely to draw.

It’s a helluva drag when your idols show they have feet of clay.

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Jon Stewart should stand aside and let someone younger run the show [View all] bigtree Feb 2024 OP

Jon Stewart did great work talking politics after he left the Daily Show. ificandream Feb 2024 #1

I expected something good and got a mouthful of fetid rat shit. Motherfucking lazy bullshit about Biden. SoFlaBro Feb 2024 #66

Couldn't agree more. LakeArenal Feb 2024 #128

GOp is going to run on Biden being old. We may aswell accept it applegrove Feb 2024 #166

I'll give Stewart one more fucking week. He gets the first week to unload the dogshit. Now time to get goddamn serious. SoFlaBro Feb 2024 #168

At least find some new material. The Biden is old schtick is exactly that : old schtick. LakeArenal Feb 2024 #184

I'll even listen to a new tack on the "Biden is old" schtick. He's old. So what? Is he doing the fucking job or not? SoFlaBro Feb 2024 #187

Nah... rdchili96 Feb 2024 #176

That was funny rockfordfile Feb 2024 #90

You could have my time, I'd take it back. I disliked it. LakeArenal Feb 2024 #126

Thank You!! Cha Feb 2024 #140

I didn't see any both sides crap redqueen Feb 2024 #2

tired of the age crap bigtree Feb 2024 #4

He's a comedian. He makes jokes. I found the jokes funny redqueen Feb 2024 #6

he's Mahr Jr. bigtree Feb 2024 #13

Young people get their news from Tik Tok . The Wizard Feb 2024 #16

that makes sense bigtree Feb 2024 #22

You're smarter than that BeyondGeography Feb 2024 #28

what you're really saying here, in a demeaning way, is that I should share your view bigtree Feb 2024 #36

Or you could support your argument with something other than pointless defiance BeyondGeography Feb 2024 #41

I'm all over the thread with what I believe, if that's what you want bigtree Feb 2024 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Feb 2024 #63

I'm with you. LakeArenal Feb 2024 #129

I agree PatSeg Feb 2024 #92

This is a lane that Stewart does great in. He should stay there. Kennah Feb 2024 #125

Truth SunImp Feb 2024 #160

He's going to be on only one day a week. The younger folks have four days a week to get laughs. ificandream Feb 2024 #42

No, Maher has been consistent about ageism, always said it's the last acceptable prejudice in America. betsuni Feb 2024 #159

The reason there aren't good conservative comedians... brooklynite Feb 2024 #15

I'm not here for the other side bigtree Feb 2024 #21

I hope your safety bubble stays nice and cozy..I don't need one. brooklynite Feb 2024 #25

interesting how that conjures up an impression that I can't hear everything bigtree Feb 2024 #32

"I somehow need this two-bit comedian to tell me what's what." brooklynite Feb 2024 #34

says the person who JUST told me I'm in a bubble bigtree Feb 2024 #39

The "bubble" is a zone of communication that everyone inside agrees with... brooklynite Feb 2024 #40

you sure blanched at mine bigtree Feb 2024 #44

How old are you? just curious. flying_wahini Feb 2024 #71

63 bigtree Feb 2024 #80

re: "I'm not here for the other side" thesquanderer Feb 2024 #62

I basically meant here on the planet bigtree Feb 2024 #64

Ah! Got it. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2024 #82

They ask for your opinion and then beat you up about it. LakeArenal Feb 2024 #130

Thank you whathehell Feb 2024 #133

Right..... rdchili96 Feb 2024 #177

We can stomp our feet and not watch him.. whathehell Feb 2024 #127

Why are we pretending on this site AkFemDem Feb 2024 #106

Because the choice is so clear, the choices are both old because that's the way it is. LakeArenal Feb 2024 #134

Post removed Post removed Feb 2024 #178

I agree fishwax Feb 2024 #46

Stewart isn't sayng that. He's advocating against Pres. Biden here bigtree Feb 2024 #53

no he isn't fishwax Feb 2024 #68

this is just Stewart channeling Dean Phillips bigtree Feb 2024 #72

Stewart doesn't have a viable alternative because he's not advocating for an alternative to Biden fishwax Feb 2024 #84

so he's advocating cynicism bigtree Feb 2024 #94

no, but rather the opposite -- it's cynical to pretend or insist that it isn't true that Biden is an old man fishwax Feb 2024 #102

he's only serving himself by harping on it. bigtree Feb 2024 #104

lol -- it's not his job to *serve* the Biden campaign fishwax Feb 2024 #109

let's not be disingenuous here bigtree Feb 2024 #111

who has argued that he's an advocate for party and president? fishwax Feb 2024 #112

let's see if you understand what ratfucking Democrats in a presidential election looks like bigtree Feb 2024 #115

yeah, that's not ratfucking fishwax Feb 2024 #120

then it's idiocy bigtree Feb 2024 #121

sorry, but your claim is laughably absurd fishwax Feb 2024 #122

if you have to ridicule to make your point... bigtree Feb 2024 #123

I'm sorry if you feel I've ridiculed your opinion. I do feel that the claim is blatantly false. fishwax Feb 2024 #131

if you look closer you see that I'm polite and conversational bigtree Feb 2024 #136

Well done Big. LakeArenal Feb 2024 #186

Stunningly bad judgement, incredibly wrong. betsuni Feb 2024 #167

Right.. Why not do "Both Sides".. it's Not his Fucking job Cha Feb 2024 #141

I don't think Jon Stewart did "Both Sides," or that he would help save democracy by not criticizing Biden fishwax Feb 2024 #143

Is it possible HuskyOffset Feb 2024 #86

why is Stewart characterizing that one vid as the totality of the campaign bigtree Feb 2024 #98

I think he's advocating for better campaign imaging. Moosepoop Feb 2024 #87

I always get a hoot out of folks who think publicly criticizing the party or president is some sort of political genius bigtree Feb 2024 #100

I don't regard it as political genius. Moosepoop Feb 2024 #107

Today on "The View" the Republican co-host made that argument, that because the stakes are so high betsuni Feb 2024 #163

Saw his interview on CBS claudette Feb 2024 #58

This is tiresome. redqueen Feb 2024 #118

That's why claudette Feb 2024 #124

The whole first segment angrychair Feb 2024 #132

He has said many times, in many ways, that he'd vote for anyone running against tsf redqueen Feb 2024 #135

No... rdchili96 Feb 2024 #183

"Jon Stewart Tackles The Biden-Trump Rematch That Nobody Wants The Daily Show" W_HAMILTON Feb 2024 #146

He's only on Mondays. I vote: give the show back to him. Have Colbert do a 'werd' segment every day. marble falls Feb 2024 #3

He did that already. Ace Rothstein Feb 2024 #5

Ain't that the truth. redqueen Feb 2024 #7

I didn't like Noah but the rotating hosts were straight up awful. Ace Rothstein Feb 2024 #9

I just wish Noah had a chance to get more familiar with American English, it almost felt like ... marble falls Feb 2024 #56

Honestly felt like he never left Sympthsical Feb 2024 #29

The thing that struck me was the closeup limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #33

OTOH, the older you get, the less sleep you need. ;-) n/t thesquanderer Feb 2024 #54

It reminds me a little of the behavior surrounding RBG Sympthsical Feb 2024 #57

Good blast from the past. limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #101

No doubt about it. Living long is a terrible back-up plan for a future-dependent endeavor. jaxexpat Feb 2024 #105

Biden's mind is better at 81 than Trump's was at 20. whathehell Feb 2024 #145

I texted my buddy something similar earlier today. Ace Rothstein Feb 2024 #50

If you watch the whole segment he did a mucifer Feb 2024 #8

he's completely a stalking horse for some alternative party bigtree Feb 2024 #14

No, he did not. Oof. themaguffin Feb 2024 #35

oh, yes, he did. bigtree Feb 2024 #43

Here's another way to look at the same thing... thesquanderer Feb 2024 #78

I think the campaign would rather we were talking about the economy bigtree Feb 2024 #81

Sure, but two things... thesquanderer Feb 2024 #88

there's nothing to be done about Biden's age, which hasn't prevented ANYTHING bigtree Feb 2024 #99

Thank you, sanity! Some folks here are contrary for dubious reasons, enjoying controversy at the expense of civility.... jaxexpat Feb 2024 #103

Exactly.. bet Dean Phillips likes it. Cha Feb 2024 #144

no, he did not themaguffin Feb 2024 #45

Oh the irony. (nt) MissMillie Feb 2024 #10

Yep.. rdchili96 Feb 2024 #182

I watched his monologue and "news team" segment... Think. Again. Feb 2024 #11

he makes a cynical joke, I make a cynical joke bigtree Feb 2024 #17

we get it, Jon...Biden is old...now go away... agingdem Feb 2024 #12

Why is 'retirement' in quotes there? redqueen Feb 2024 #18

he retired from The Daily Show years ago... agingdem Feb 2024 #38

I didn't plan to watch Mossfern Feb 2024 #19

Anyone want to fill us in why our side would possibly have pitchforks out for Jon Stewart? nt ramen Feb 2024 #20

'our side' is a diverse and disparate coalition of interests and concerns bigtree Feb 2024 #24

Do you have a link to what he did to outrage those people? ramen Feb 2024 #52

I'm not going to be sea-lioned here bigtree Feb 2024 #55

Christ on a bike. That is objectively not sealioning ramen Feb 2024 #149

he's not being crucified, he's being called out for his own behavior bigtree Feb 2024 #150

I'm not sure what you see in the links you sent, but ramen Feb 2024 #171

He was wrong about Hillary, promoting the "I just don't trust her" "she has no message, stands for nothing" betsuni Feb 2024 #173

Seriously.... He continuously points out the hypocrisy and fascist right... Chakaconcarne Feb 2024 #26

That is NOT what he did lst night. NoRethugFriends Feb 2024 #67

But he didn't only attack the guy we don't like... Caliman73 Feb 2024 #108

So many have become doctrinaire & rigid Basic LA Feb 2024 #27

He's playing to the mushy middle redqueen Feb 2024 #37

Here's my personal list: UTUSN Feb 2024 #172

Well.... rdchili96 Feb 2024 #179

Ok, well I'm going to put all my eggs in It's a Kevin Nortons basket now Chakaconcarne Feb 2024 #23

Some people pay to hear what an opinionated old fart has to say EYESORE 9001 Feb 2024 #30

One of the things about the "age issue" that I don't get Mad_Machine76 Feb 2024 #31

He's not a comedian, he is Jon Stewart. twodogsbarking Feb 2024 #47

He did. I'm really glad he's back, even in the limited scope fishwax Feb 2024 #48

Someone younger did run the show. Trever Noah and a some others. The show lost a lot of viewers. Autumn Feb 2024 #49

it's okay bigtree Feb 2024 #60

Oh please DownriverDem Feb 2024 #51

Yeah, no Stuckinthebush Feb 2024 #61

There's a certian irony in your statement. jalan48 Feb 2024 #65

they have zero alternative and they're playing politics instead of participating in it bigtree Feb 2024 #76

I thought he was hilarious. Be The Light Feb 2024 #69

I love Jon Stewart and so do LOTS of adults. If you saw his show last night that's what it was all about. flying_wahini Feb 2024 #70

We may be the minority opinion here SCantiGOP Feb 2024 #74

How many different ways can you reframe "Biden is old"? Did Stewart do a fuck thing to nudge the conversation forward? SoFlaBro Feb 2024 #77

Well, he did emphasize that age is really no less of an issue for TFG... thesquanderer Feb 2024 #95

He sat for nine years only to come back with this dogshit? SoFlaBro Feb 2024 #97

Yes rdchili96 Feb 2024 #180

When do we throw Colbert under the bus? He makes jokes about Biden's age as well. onenote Feb 2024 #73

I dropped Colbert and Saturday Night Live. Hope22 Feb 2024 #91

Did you watch it until the end? Aviation Pro Feb 2024 #75

for some reason... RussBLib Feb 2024 #93

I prefer Colbert tavernier Feb 2024 #79

And he also makes Biden age jokes. onenote Feb 2024 #110

Indeed nt RussBLib Feb 2024 #113

That was actually one of the segments on last night's show Fiendish Thingy Feb 2024 #83

And we continue to eat our own, what's new? Silent Type Feb 2024 #85

To mock others..... flying-skeleton Feb 2024 #89

That word salad made zero sense. SoFlaBro Feb 2024 #96

Made sense to me RussBLib Feb 2024 #114

He's a comedian, not a cheerleader. I won't be watching because I was never a fan tritsofme Feb 2024 #116

Just one Rebl2 Feb 2024 #117

We just watched it. Funny and fully constructed. underpants Feb 2024 #119

Stewart does seem to be engaging in bothsiderism and encouraging Third party voting Kennah Feb 2024 #137

Here's what I'd like to see Jon do on the topic: intrepidity Feb 2024 #138

Fucking Well ?Said!! Cha Feb 2024 #139

Am I in the Twilight Zone right now? MorbidButterflyTat Feb 2024 #142

Thank You.. you're Not the only one who Cha Feb 2024 #147

Merci! MorbidButterflyTat Feb 2024 #174

Based on the replies here, I don't think any of you are ready Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2024 #148

Chew on this, Jon Stewart... Cha Feb 2024 #151

Coming up on Jake Tapper. He just said this is coming up... that democrats are not happy IcyPeas Feb 2024 #152

Get a Fucking Clue, Stewart... Cha Feb 2024 #153

Well... Mike Nelson Feb 2024 #154

He tore his ass with many with that both sider, who wants either old codger show last night ..... LenaBaby61 Feb 2024 #155

Tough room! JoseBalow Feb 2024 #156

I tried out a line bigtree Feb 2024 #162

LOL, he did. Jirel Feb 2024 #157

I'll bite bigtree Feb 2024 #161

Excellent! Thank you for posting! betsuni Feb 2024 #158

I stand with KO's Take... Cha Feb 2024 #164

Those takes are correct. betsuni Feb 2024 #170

Let's not trash Jon Stewart....... magicarpet Feb 2024 #165

The ageism is lazy The Blue Flower Feb 2024 #169

How ironic.... rdchili96 Feb 2024 #175

Agreed. He's still stuck back in 2015 and is screwing up his legacy. brush Feb 2024 #181

Can't we all just get along? anglesphere Feb 2024 #185

He actually had part of his show joke about that. Eko Feb 2024 #188