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Hekate

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90. What you call a "longstanding tradition of liberals lodging protest votes" has cost us very dearly...

Sun Feb 18, 2024, 09:28 PM

Feb 2024

…in just my lifetime. Getting BushCheney into office just to show the libs a thing or two by voting for Nader was stupid as hell. Likewise pledging allegiance to Jill Stein to show Hillary you were — wtf, I don’t know, since Jillsie was a known pal of Putin’s — was easily the most fucking stupid move of my lifetime since we got Trump out of it.

How is pwning the libs showing anyone anything? There ARE NO “protest votes” in a 2-party system. You want that kind of thing, move to a country with a parliamentary system, and see what it’s like when a tiny but rabid minority (that knows how to hang together) has huge powers because they can make coalitions. Hey, I know — Israel has one of those, and despite being essentially a secular society, the Orthodox are incredibly powerful.

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Rashida Tlaib, what is her [View all] Tickle Feb 2024 OP

Her issue is 30,000 dead in Gaza. Voltaire2 Feb 2024 #1

Making Biden weaker is not going to help, is it? BootinUp Feb 2024 #2

It's putting pressure on Biden to try to curtail Israel's "over the top" actions in Gaza Bucky Feb 2024 #5

Its playing with fire. Biden has consistently raised the pressure on Netanyahu BootinUp Feb 2024 #7

Not nearly enough pressure on Netanyahu, apparently Bucky Feb 2024 #9

I will have to give up with you. Who it is that struggles for comprehension BootinUp Feb 2024 #11

Best of intentions don't count here. She's not trying to weaken Biden, but it's what she's doing Walleye Feb 2024 #26

How do know Pres Biden isn't doing enough?!!! I Trust Cha Feb 2024 #61

He can do what he can Mad_Machine76 Feb 2024 #99

The US plans to vote again against ceasefire womanofthehills Feb 2024 #98

Have you considered that to achieve the best outcome BootinUp Feb 2024 #101

B.S. to your last line RandomNumbers Feb 2024 #10

We're fighting for democracy, so anyone who dissents needs to shut up Bucky Feb 2024 #23

There are ways to protest that make sense. Pulling support from Biden doesn't. RandomNumbers Feb 2024 #33

"After raping and murdering civilians? What kind of sick mind would think Hamas legitimate at this point?" LenaBaby61 Feb 2024 #34

In the context of someone being a Trump supporter, that actually makes sense. tritsofme Feb 2024 #47

According to the Times of Israel womanofthehills Feb 2024 #104

Israel is not acting in "revenge" Mossfern Feb 2024 #112

Telling people to shut up is very democratic, actually Silent3 Feb 2024 #49

I's Simple We're FOR Our Democracy. and Against The Fucking Fascists Taking Over our Country. Cha Feb 2024 #62

Apparently it is acceptable here now to accuse President Biden of being an "enabler" of genocide and apartheid tritsofme Feb 2024 #66

Not Acceptable For Those Who Care About Our Democracy! Cha Feb 2024 #69

This BlueKota Feb 2024 #81

She voted against condemning sexual violence so she isn't really in a position JI7 Feb 2024 #13

She did WHAT????!!!!! She voted AGAINST condemning Sexual Violence? n/t msfiddlestix Feb 2024 #56

"a weak way of describing the callous killing of 30,000 civilians" EX500rider Feb 2024 #30

What you call a "longstanding tradition of liberals lodging protest votes" has cost us very dearly... Hekate Feb 2024 #90

"That's all right, the haters will shut up on Monday after we win." Tlaib after booing Hillary Clinton. betsuni Feb 2024 #97

What he says publically mzmolly Feb 2024 #127

And she wants to punish Biden for it? Beastly Boy Feb 2024 #3

The protest is meant to pressure Biden to try and stop the reckless killing of Palestinians Bucky Feb 2024 #6

She wont even vote to condemn sexual violence JI7 Feb 2024 #16

Her position is not complicated at all. Beastly Boy Feb 2024 #22

Except there isn't any "reckless killing" TexasDem69 Feb 2024 #28

Bingo, I couldn't agree with you Tickle Feb 2024 #53

Tahnk You.. Something those supporting Tlaib's Vote Suppressing PJB Don't Cha Feb 2024 #64

She might just find herself outside looking in . Historic NY Feb 2024 #24

She definitely has issues NickB79 Feb 2024 #20

Yeah... I'm not seeing A Good Fath in Facts there. Cha Feb 2024 #65

That's NOT PRes Biden's Fault... she Needs to Talk Cha Feb 2024 #60

Put the republicans in charge and the 30,000 nakocal Feb 2024 #78

Biden isn't running Israel mzmolly Feb 2024 #126

Annihilation of her family/ethnicity/heritage. Basic LA Feb 2024 #4

And ..... Mossfern Feb 2024 #18

Americans of German heritage fought in WW II. RandomNumbers Feb 2024 #19

Actually many more German Americans fought in the European theater. Historic NY Feb 2024 #25

Okay, it might have been related to # of generations, OR RandomNumbers Feb 2024 #31

It was 'Nisei' Japanese Americans that were sent to Europe rather than Pacific Historic NY Feb 2024 #36

One of those Nisei vets was my Hawai'i Senator: Daniel K. Inouye, who left an arm in Italy Hekate Feb 2024 #41

Wow RandomNumberd, I never Tickle Feb 2024 #58

She voted "Present" Zeitghost Feb 2024 #35

Yeah... Too hard to Vote Against Sexual Violence and Cha Feb 2024 #68

Yes. Thank you! Chellee Feb 2024 #132

Another thread about this yesterday JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #8

thank you. BootinUp Feb 2024 #12

100% correct comradebillyboy Feb 2024 #17

Yup Arazi Feb 2024 #32

Absolutely true BannonsLiver Feb 2024 #37

Yes she does. Cha Feb 2024 #70

She has been more critical of Democrats Mountainguy Feb 2024 #14

she voted against condemning Hamas use of sexual violence JI7 Feb 2024 #15

Exponentially More since I haven't seen any Cha Feb 2024 #72

Someone should "inform" Tlaib agingdem Feb 2024 #21

Yes, Biden's aides met with and will continue to meet with them, yet she says they betsuni Feb 2024 #38

She's not acting in Good Fatth.. Ignoring the Reality. Cha Feb 2024 #73

Rashida is putting her own neck. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2024 #27

I got a bunch or random texts yesterday bif Feb 2024 #29

Damn...wonder who they were from ? Cha Feb 2024 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Feb 2024 #39

Hellsite is a popular word for it. BootinUp Feb 2024 #40

She ran as a Democrat, and Democrats supported her. I thought she just had a steep learning curve... Hekate Feb 2024 #42

I was done with her after booing HRC on stage. sheshe2 Feb 2024 #82

I must have forgotten that, or buried it under "steep learning curve." Well, I'm done... Hekate Feb 2024 #87

You are right, Hekate. sheshe2 Feb 2024 #91

"No, we're going to boo. That's all right, the haters will shut up on Monday when we win." betsuni Feb 2024 #96

We know how well that worked out.🤣 sheshe2 Feb 2024 #108

Enabling the enemies of Democracy Happy Hoosier Feb 2024 #43

Aren't enabling genocide and apartheid malaise Feb 2024 #51

So now President Biden "enables" genocide and apartheid? tritsofme Feb 2024 #54

Are you gonna tell me Happy Hoosier Feb 2024 #74

Malaise, if you really mean this, let me make it pellucidly clear how disappointed I am in you Hekate Feb 2024 #88

Maybe just maybe she's a little upset malaise Feb 2024 #44

Nah, she is just a Trump supporter, she has made that pellucidly clear. tritsofme Feb 2024 #46

Of course malaise Feb 2024 #48

Can't she do that without implicitly supporting Trump? Nothing justifies such stupidity. tritsofme Feb 2024 #50

NOTHING. Cha Feb 2024 #85

She is not defending her "folks" by supporting Trump. RandomNumbers Feb 2024 #71

Rec.. Thank You. Cha Feb 2024 #95

It Depends HOW someone "Dissents".. Telling Cha Feb 2024 #94

I wish Rebl2 Feb 2024 #67

Sure... Zeitghost Feb 2024 #57

Maybe she's waiting for others to condemn genocide and apartheid malaise Feb 2024 #59

To make it pellucidly clear... sheshe2 Feb 2024 #84

TY she.. Tlaib won't Condemn Gang Rape or HAMAS... Cha Feb 2024 #86

She should be careful about what she wishes for. sheshe2 Feb 2024 #89

Exactly.. NO ONE WULD be safe WITH TSF/Putin IN CHARGE OF Cha Feb 2024 #92

NO that's NOT "all.. She's so "upset" she's Telling others Not to Vote for our American Cha Feb 2024 #100

It's pretty simple, she supports Trump. tritsofme Feb 2024 #45

That is just so effed in so many ways, but mostly I can't wrap my head around the stupidity of that campaign msfiddlestix Feb 2024 #52

She doesn't care who is president. RandySF Feb 2024 #55

It also helps to be in an absolutely safe district where you don't have to worry about anyone opposing you.... brooklynite Feb 2024 #63

I agree, RandyS. sheshe2 Feb 2024 #106

Excellent point! betsuni Feb 2024 #109

Thank you. sheshe2 Feb 2024 #111

Right.. no one Supports Dean Phillips Anti Pres Cha Feb 2024 #113

I think I know why. Only, I'll play it safe and keep my observations to myself. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2024 #119

Agreed! If someone posted a "blind quote" here using her words but without attributing them to her * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2024 #116

It's the belief Democrats must be pushed/pulled to the correct Left position by threats of withholding betsuni Feb 2024 #121

Yes. This seems to be a belief that is rooted in intellectual weakness and an inability to persuade * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2024 #123

And the all or nothing thing lets them enjoy being righteous martyrs when nothing, like a Trump win, betsuni Feb 2024 #128

I think voting uncommitted in a Primary is nothing more than trying to walkingman Feb 2024 #76

For some, the goal is to publicly reject and embarrass President Biden. lapucelle Feb 2024 #93

Thank you! betsuni Feb 2024 #102

Wrong. It will carry over. She's instructing others to shit on Biden * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2024 #117

Just wondering if Tlaib ever called Biden to ask for an in person talk Raven123 Feb 2024 #77

Supporting Gazans is one thing, refusing to condemn sexual violence and refusing to endorse Biden is just deplorable. tritsofme Feb 2024 #79

Agreed. Raven123 Feb 2024 #80

I suspect that endorsement against Biden will actually help him. JohnSJ Feb 2024 #83

Netanyahu should have resigned already wolfie001 Feb 2024 #103

How is that relevant to Tlaib condoning Hamas' actions? TexasDem69 Feb 2024 #105

It isn't. Instead its... "SQUIRREL!" * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2024 #118

Because he's still there literally destroying everything in his path wolfie001 Feb 2024 #120

Hamas is the government of Gaza right now, so let them run the "state"? tritsofme Feb 2024 #122

Silence 🟰 approval? Oopsie Daisy Feb 2024 #124

Totally agree! wolfie001 Feb 2024 #131

Shitting on the party who gave her all their support. shenmue Feb 2024 #107

Mahalo Shenmue.. Cha Feb 2024 #110

Tlaib (like Netanyahu) is against a two state solution. lapucelle Feb 2024 #114

But it wasn't good enough for Yasser Arafat because comradebillyboy Feb 2024 #129

Indeed. It is galling to this day that he won the Nobel Peace Prize. N/T lapucelle Feb 2024 #130

She's apparently not very popular in Detroit redqueen Feb 2024 #115

What? I think she is...She doesn't have a primary opponent as of yet and she got 70% of the vote in 2022. LeftInTX Feb 2024 #125