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204. So what is your point in this thread?

Mon Feb 26, 2024, 10:26 AM

Feb 2024

Have you watched the video yet? You stated previously that you never even watched the video. Are you actually interested in learning why women feel that they are often dismissed and then mansplained? So far, you've talked about holding doors, never holding doors again, "females," not feeling dateable, and being a nice guy, but you haven't mentioned if you watched this particular video yet. It's been kindly explained over and over why the man's behavior was problematic and how it reflects a larger societal problem in which women are often dismissed and seen as helpless no matter their expertise. How is that linked to opening doors and the way "females" would find you "creepy" (quoting you...this isn't my judgment for anyone who may want to alert) if you were still on the dating scene?

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"OK. For every bro who has EVER taken issue with the term MANSPLAINING. Bros. Here it is." [View all] redqueen Feb 2024 OP

I get -splained by both men and women constantly. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #1

From recent articles I've read, more & more Americans feel the same & it's especially prevalent with young people. -nt CrispyQ Feb 2024 #5

How does not holding doors for anyone MorbidButterflyTat Feb 2024 #12

"I don't need any man to hold a door for me." Been told that alot AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #13

That's not splaining. It's someone asserting their boundaries. meadowlander Feb 2024 #16

it's called being nice. i know it's not common today. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #36

If you want to be nice, hold the door open for everyone. meadowlander Feb 2024 #49

i used to. i got it from both sexes, but more from females. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #57

Men have said this to you? MorbidButterflyTat Feb 2024 #82

No. men have questioned my heterosexuality when i held a door open for them AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #113

So, did they mansplain opening doors for people? obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #212

Agreed. I'm a woman in my mid-60s, I hold doors for everyone, and I've never once gotten a negative response. yardwork Feb 2024 #150

Ditto, though some people sail through without a "thanks" spooky3 Feb 2024 #175

Ouch. herding cats Feb 2024 #125

when you spend fifty years doing nothing but demonizing, harping "stranger danger," AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #127

Who is the "you" in your first sentence meadowlander Feb 2024 #192

#NotAllMen revival. betsuni Feb 2024 #194

"you" is society in general. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #195

So what is your point in this thread? Tree-Hugger Feb 2024 #204

The only men considered to be creeps by women are creeps and creepy "nice guys" obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #211

Women, not females obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #134

Calling women "females" is a dead giveaway. betsuni Feb 2024 #137

100% this obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #161

It sure is Tree-Hugger Feb 2024 #172

And the problem is there is zero learning going on for this person, only arguing louder Eliot Rosewater Feb 2024 #220

"Here, Little-Lady! Lemme help you with that! Come on through! There ya go!" Oopsie Daisy Feb 2024 #173

Straight out of the "but I'm a nice guy" playbook. meadowlander Feb 2024 #188

Which is really creepy. betsuni Feb 2024 #197

What's the opposite of virtue-signaling? Oopsie Daisy Feb 2024 #198

You nailed it. I am a woman of colour and many times a White guy will hold the door for a White female and let it go as akbacchus_BC Feb 2024 #77

I can honestly say I've never done that. It's called not doing to other things you do hot want others to do to you AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #121

I'm so sorry that happens to you. yardwork Feb 2024 #151

Do you actually think this man was being nice? AwakeAtLast Feb 2024 #64

didn't watch. don't watch. all i know is to not help or try to help. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #72

I had to think about Samuel L Jackson line in Pulp Fiction Walleye Feb 2024 #99

or the bumper sticker I have seen: "When I want your advice I'll beat it out of you" EX500rider Feb 2024 #100

There used to be a sign where I worked and that said, "when I want any shit from you,I'll kick it out of you" Walleye Feb 2024 #102

violence is always the answer. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #114

violence is always the answer. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #115

which is the reason i've pretty much told humanity to go to hell. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #116

Because you are mansplaining what mansplaining is obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #210

I sincerely dont know about anyone else, but the posts I look forward to the most on message Eliot Rosewater Feb 2024 #222

Didnt even watch the video, he admits. Wow... Eliot Rosewater Feb 2024 #221

u might want to watch it. mopinko Feb 2024 #142

Well, you high jacked this thread to make it all about you. yardwork Feb 2024 #152

Didn't watch the video kcr Feb 2024 #206

If a man holds the door for a woman in a way that suggests he's doing it BECAUSE she's a woman RandomNumbers Feb 2024 #147

It's their problem, not ours. yardwork Feb 2024 #154

Larry David's door-holding rule: type + distance. betsuni Feb 2024 #193

Or some demand others be nice to them. But don't reciprocate. LiberalFighter Feb 2024 #223

One of the rules to dating me usedtobedemgurl Feb 2024 #18

My Wife Hasn't Touched A Door Handle... ProfessorGAC Feb 2024 #41

Oh, My, God! How did this come to be about opening doors?? Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #87

She Expects ProfessorGAC Feb 2024 #97

That would be a deal breaker for me, too GenThePerservering Feb 2024 #75

Some women ask for flowers.... usedtobedemgurl Feb 2024 #76

Guess you may be GenThePerservering Feb 2024 #110

I am 76 years old and have never anciano Feb 2024 #22

hold it open. smile. let person pass. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #37

Yep, how you do it. When i was in my hot 20's, i opened a big glass door but saw a guy right behind txwhitedove Feb 2024 #50

Same here malaise Feb 2024 #80

Yeah, I'm sure it happens aaaaaall the time.... Shit! It just happened to me as Carlitos Brigante Feb 2024 #24

it doesn't anymore. i don't hold doors for anyone. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #35

That's hilarious! nt Carlitos Brigante Feb 2024 #38

Smile at them and say "Yes, you are absolutely right!" Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2024 #55

In Canada, people automatically hold doors for the next person, no matter gender or age Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2024 #19

that's pretty much how it is in the South.....their politics suck but they got manners prodigitalson Feb 2024 #23

That's how it is here in the northeast too. This raging door-holding controversy is not really a thing anywhere. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #224

Many Times, I've Held The Door For Someone... ProfessorGAC Feb 2024 #40

Same in Ohio. n/t Ms. Toad Feb 2024 #44

They do in the US, too obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #162

You must live in a very odd place. Ms. Toad Feb 2024 #43

I love how dismissive people are when they say "well that never happened to you." AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #117

Since the experience of the on point comments in this thread are very different from your experience, Ms. Toad Feb 2024 #126

Open, smile, let person pass, close and then go about my business. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #128

Well said, Ms Toad obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #163

She didn't say that. yardwork Feb 2024 #155

How long ago were you in university? Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #171

Sounds rather serious. Torchlight Feb 2024 #53

Thanks. I just had a novel published and getting a movie produced this year. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #118

I do not understand what that has to do with the door discussion obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #164

What? 😂 AkFemDem Feb 2024 #184

yep. edisdead Feb 2024 #73

BAHAHA!!!! You seem upset! Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #86

and you're reaction and comment is borderline cyber-bullying. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #119

. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #139

No, it isn't obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #165

Well have a little sympathy for us, I know you've never had it happen to you Walleye Feb 2024 #98

I've had women come up to me and tell me how to teach my class or how to do a bench press. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2024 #120

I will resist the urge to womansplain to you why that's not the same thing Walleye Feb 2024 #122

Wow. I don't have that reaction at all. yardwork Feb 2024 #149

And the OP, which the poster openly admits he has not watched, has nothing to do with one guy's door opening traumas. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #170

In his defense, though, he wouldn't know because he didn't watch the video. yardwork Feb 2024 #174

That isn't being considerate of anyone, man or woman. Lonestarblue Feb 2024 #153

Mansplainging Bro should've been minding his own damn business MagickMuffin Feb 2024 #2

I was blown away PatSeg Feb 2024 #30

Guarantee she has experienced this many times. Mariana Feb 2024 #148

That is probably true PatSeg Feb 2024 #169

Golfers should NEVER give swing advice PJMcK Feb 2024 #3

I've had the same goddamn experience. Too many "experts" on the golf course who are just fucking weekend duffers. SoFlaBro Feb 2024 #21

The worst duffers seem to be the ones quickest to give advice. rubbersole Feb 2024 #27

I NEVER Give Swing Advice ProfessorGAC Feb 2024 #48

I do an 'Arnold Palmer" swing obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #166

Yup, I took a session of training at Golftec, and would often come in with questions robbob Feb 2024 #168

How not to flirt. SarahD Feb 2024 #4

Was just thinking limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #10

... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2024 #6

To protect my poor kitty's sensitive system, I will not watch the video. But I niyad Feb 2024 #7

😬👜🧱🤕 Floyd R. Turbo Feb 2024 #11

Exactly! niyad Feb 2024 #15

😁 Floyd R. Turbo Feb 2024 #17

Good to see you FRT moniss Feb 2024 #29

That's pretty funny. My favorite Rodney Dangerfield was what he said Walleye Feb 2024 #103

Thank you! Floyd R. Turbo Feb 2024 #138

I (F) was once practicing lobs using the tennis ball machine, when spooky3 Feb 2024 #8

K&R - nt Ohio Joe Feb 2024 #9

I watch the LPGA. They are outstanding. Fun too. twodogsbarking Feb 2024 #14

I prefer the LPGA moniss Feb 2024 #31

Biggest Reason For Me To Watch The Women... ProfessorGAC Feb 2024 #51

Ex-hubby was a 5 handicap golfer and said the pro women's technique spooky3 Feb 2024 #58

I Agfee With Him ProfessorGAC Feb 2024 #63

Excellent analysis moniss Feb 2024 #74

Also, With No Stats... ProfessorGAC Feb 2024 #85

Unbelievable short games. rubbersole Feb 2024 #61

She is more than kind. I don't know how she took multiple doses of that moron! Hope22 Feb 2024 #20

Hey, at least he's not a Karen. He wasn't all over her with anger and mean accusations, probably thought he ws being TeamProg Feb 2024 #25

Are you mansplaining right now???? AKwannabe Feb 2024 #26

Mansplaining a mansplainer? cate94 Feb 2024 #28

Woosh! Torchlight Feb 2024 #54

That's a little vague, probably meant to be offensive. Is that the sound of my comment going over your head? TeamProg Feb 2024 #62

Yes some random bloke must most certainly be better than a woman professional player. Hope22 Feb 2024 #78

Wow! This thread encompasses ALL the butthurt!!! Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #89

It's certainly filled my bingo card! yardwork Feb 2024 #156

Right? SunSeeker Feb 2024 #189

He was monumentally oblivious. limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #129

If in doubt, ask yourself if the person I want to advise spooky3 Feb 2024 #177

Please say this is sarcasm 😂 AkFemDem Feb 2024 #185

that's a derogatory and sexist term and should be banned from DU. Red Raider 85 Feb 2024 #32

Men are not being bashed... Ohio Joe Feb 2024 #45

Agreed, so then call it "Misogynistic douchebag-splaining". TeamProg Feb 2024 #101

Spare meat part log Ohio Joe Feb 2024 #104

Missed it by that much. TeamProg Feb 2024 #215

There is nothing wrong with mansplaining -- and mansplaining why it shouldn't be called that is something else obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #214

It's not man bashing, but an accurate observation Mosby Feb 2024 #47

The term correctly notes that the explainer is typically male and spooky3 Feb 2024 #59

Thanks for mansplaining it to us. johnp3907 Feb 2024 #60

Welcome to DU - GoneOffShore Feb 2024 #65

Just Silly ProfessorGAC Feb 2024 #66

If that is the way you mercuryblues Feb 2024 #70

It must be so difficult for you. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #90

It describes a certain type of behavior. It's not "bashing" all men. Sky Jewels Feb 2024 #158

yes it does. right in the term! it's sexist and derogatory. Red Raider 85 Feb 2024 #208

lolz obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #209

lol obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #205

Too bad she didn't "accidentally" Sky Jewels Feb 2024 #33

Where does a mansplainer get his water? central scrutinizer Feb 2024 #34

What A Dick! ProfessorGAC Feb 2024 #39

I misread the tile for manscaping Polybius Feb 2024 #42

Demetri Martin mac56 Feb 2024 #46

I don't get the drama around opening and holding doors. Demobrat Feb 2024 #52

Same. MorbidButterflyTat Feb 2024 #81

This is not about opening doors. SalviaBlue Feb 2024 #83

Thank you for the clarification. Demobrat Feb 2024 #88

Seems like a subject some people REALLY want to talk about. Even though it has NOTHING Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #92

unsolicited advice darbus Feb 2024 #56

There are probably times it's okay, if you see someone visibly struggling... Silent3 Feb 2024 #68

Not real mansplaining till he spoons up behind her and guides her swing Bucky Feb 2024 #67

No, that's assault. llmart Feb 2024 #69

Wow, that guy's just a bag of whoosh (empty, stale air in this context). Torchlight Feb 2024 #71

Oh! I see where I went wrong! Aussie105 Feb 2024 #79

This not about opening doors. SalviaBlue Feb 2024 #84

Poor dear. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #93

I see where you went wrong too. johnp3907 Feb 2024 #96

Why are they always attractive? Iggo Feb 2024 #109

You seem to be the common denominator GenThePerservering Feb 2024 #112

I get the same shit at the shooting range vercetti2021 Feb 2024 #91

Lordy, this thread! You did it this time, redqueen! You showed a blatant example of stunningly Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #94

It is flabbergasting obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #167

Classic kcr Feb 2024 #207

The killer here is that the solution to this behavior is super simple. Jedi Guy Feb 2024 #95

A man needs his chat-up lines. Aussie105 Feb 2024 #106

"A man needs his chat-up lines." Jedi Guy Feb 2024 #108

No. That's actually not what mansplaining means at all. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #111

No, you're describing a bore. Anybody can be a bore. betsuni Feb 2024 #133

That is 100% not what mansplaining is obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #135

I'll go a tiny step further. meadowlander Feb 2024 #190

Did you hear about the mansplainer who drowned in a puddle? Iggo Feb 2024 #105

Ok that's good redqueen Feb 2024 #107

Oh good grief Chuuku Davis Feb 2024 #123

And there you have it. SHE kept saying NO by indicating non-interest... Hekate Feb 2024 #130

Wow obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #136

Yes. This is a common approach. And that's why so many Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #140

Unbelievable. nt redqueen Feb 2024 #141

It's hilarious some people still get touchy about the word mansplaining. betsuni Feb 2024 #124

Beautiful, just beautiful Hekate Feb 2024 #131

A clear, easy-to-understand example of mansplaining. Like an elephant turd on the carpet. betsuni Feb 2024 #132

Thanks for that. redqueen Feb 2024 #143

And the one who hijacked the thread and Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #144

That subthread infuriated me obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #160

You summed it up perfectly. SunSeeker Feb 2024 #191

I read that earlier obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #159

Yes, but... Tree-Hugger Feb 2024 #157

But laughing at mansplaining usually works, too. lindysalsagal Feb 2024 #145

Has the male golfing "expert" ever been identified, to see his reaction when he learned who the woman golfer was? TheRickles Feb 2024 #146

The ultimate in mansplainin'... lapucelle Feb 2024 #176

Omg, I still grind my teeth every time I see that clip. 😆 MerryBlooms Feb 2024 #178

In case you've never read the origin story... lapucelle Feb 2024 #179

Thanks for refreshing my memory. I have read that piece. MerryBlooms Feb 2024 #182

Thanks. I quoted Solnit from her book in an above comment but didn't think to find a link! betsuni Feb 2024 #187

Guaranteed trumper. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2024 #180

Meh- I've had plenty of men AkFemDem Feb 2024 #186

Yes, my comment was off base. You are right. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2024 #219

This thread shows us it crosses political lines. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #199

Yes it does, absolutely, as most examples show. betsuni Feb 2024 #200

I see that now... Eliot Rosewater Feb 2024 #218

Maybe not Tree-Hugger Feb 2024 #202

I stand corrected, so far the posts arguing are newbies...maybe they are trumpers...I havent Eliot Rosewater Feb 2024 #217

The thing that's funny is he probably thinks he's flirting n/t TexasBushwhacker Feb 2024 #181

It looked like dad-splainin to me. ecstatic Feb 2024 #183

Dickbag JI7 Feb 2024 #196

This thread is a trip. The subthreads, the ridiculous excuses. Wow. n/t ms liberty Feb 2024 #201

This thread proves.... Tree-Hugger Feb 2024 #203

Whinesplaining on that sub-thread nt GenThePerservering Feb 2024 #213

Reading the entire thread kind of validates the original premise a bit in places. Torchlight Feb 2024 #216