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Xolodno

(7,381 posts)
30. This will be unpopular...but hell its the weekend and I've been drinking....
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 03:41 AM
Mar 2024

Plus, I'll just ignore the hostile replies later....

1. Compare her primary campaign vs. Obama to Trump. Same energy wasn't there.
2. Her Democratic opponents during the primary looked like people auditioning for a cabinet spot.
3. There was an underlining theme that she was "ordained" after Obama and that's deadly as it doesn't bring any excitement. It turns off voters and makes them apathetic.
4. Polls showed her winning, so, many didn't bother showing up to vote.
5. Independents weren't excited about her and some thought Trump was just doing a show, but didn't actually think he would follow through, he was a Democrat at one point. Whoops.

We all get hopping mad here and practically frothing at the mouth, but we are not representative of the population and often shoot down people who bring that reality up. And so, we get bent out of shape when the vision here doesn't conform to reality. Anyone brings up that there is a bit of a bias here, then its damn the torpedo's and blow them out of the water.

Comey's investigation was just enough to turn off enough independents and casual Democrats to not bother. Didn't have to be that way, if people took his run a bit more serious. What's embarrassing, even Trump didn't expect to win. On election night he went to take a nap and was wakened when told there was a real chance he could win.

Clinton's loss wasn't just due to one or two reasons, that being Comey and/or Russia. It was several small mistakes that slowly turned people off or become apathetic, Comey may have just been the straw that broke it...then again, its still entirely possible Clinton still could have lost without the announcement, we'll never know. We have DU members watching CSPAN religiously, and yet I remember where a cable company, in order to get people pay up, locked their channel to CSPAN....guess what, people paid up in a hurry. We focus too much on micro and not enough macro.

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The cult Ohio Joe Mar 2024 #1
The cult is reaching Manson critical mass. They may reach reaction when he loses, but that can be put down & dealt with. NBachers Mar 2024 #4
Yeah, but they are OK with that. dchill Mar 2024 #6
I'm hoping they are reaching Mr.Bill Mar 2024 #20
Oh, wouldn't that be nice! nt drmeow Mar 2024 #34
I can't wait to watch them implode three days after Trump dies... Orrex Mar 2024 #24
His supporters should encourage him to be crucified and rise in three days. LiberalFighter Mar 2024 #38
Oh, I'd say: just EVERYTHING. calimary Mar 2024 #2
The uber-wealthy that seem to own everything in this country... rubbersole Mar 2024 #9
That phrase (for the common good), has never been believed in nor realized. Boomerproud Mar 2024 #11
"To Promote The General Welfare" ProfessorGAC Mar 2024 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author rubbersole Mar 2024 #10
I, too, think she would've been great... Dave says Mar 2024 #23
Hillary was more qualified than anyone running for President in my lifetime at that time. pazzyanne Mar 2024 #46
Dito for answer #1. patricia92243 Mar 2024 #3
because trumps asshole band are a bunch gopiscrap Mar 2024 #5
Fucked up men. Resentful shitty men JI7 Mar 2024 #7
America has become a mean spirited place to live. Baitball Blogger Mar 2024 #8
Yes, but it's not just the US and there are worse places also JI7 Mar 2024 #29
I've been asking myself that question BigmanPigman Mar 2024 #12
the old phrase IOKIYAR is painfully true LymphocyteLover Mar 2024 #13
Liberals and independents car about the law, ethics and morality. MAGAts actually like lawbreakers and liars if Martin68 Mar 2024 #14
A plausible scenario involves Biden and Dems winning... summer_in_TX Mar 2024 #15
The House and Senate have to certify the election and the VP oversees it. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #26
Thank God for that! summer_in_TX Mar 2024 #28
I don't worry so much about that kind of violence again. Lonestarblue Mar 2024 #41
That's Trump's default setting. SergeStorms Mar 2024 #16
Yes it may. Especially due to rampant stupidity of triron Mar 2024 #18
1933 Germany. Joinfortmill Mar 2024 #17
The Reichstag? triron Mar 2024 #21
Hillary had been villified for years, her emails was the straw that broke the camel's back Takket Mar 2024 #19
Because Тяцмp has made lying, cheating, & stealing Ok as a means KS Toronado Mar 2024 #22
You know the answer. Kablooie Mar 2024 #25
We don't know what will happen in November. It's entirely possible Trump's myriad of court cases sink him. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #27
This will be unpopular...but hell its the weekend and I've been drinking.... Xolodno Mar 2024 #30
Plus it it rare that one party wins three consecutive presidential elections MichMan Mar 2024 #33
She did win the popular vote! drmeow Mar 2024 #35
You nailed it, point number 4, overconfidence. (which could happen again) republianmushroom Mar 2024 #39
And yet Hillary won the popular vote in 2019, by 2.9 million votes. n/t pazzyanne Mar 2024 #47
You and one other mentioned the popular vote, that's all you got? Xolodno Mar 2024 #48
My point being simply in spite of the points you listed, pazzyanne Mar 2024 #49
Another one of the hundreds of reasons why anyone who thinks both parties are the same is a moron. betsuni Mar 2024 #31
Hillary is a better human being because of that IMO people had higher expectations Raine Mar 2024 #32
The so called "liberal media" has been conservative all along Baltimike Mar 2024 #36
The media play a huge role drmeow Mar 2024 #37
misogyny!! demigoddess Mar 2024 #40
It was a close race. Only needed to tip a few votes, or discourage voters Raven123 Mar 2024 #42
The reason is that Repughs are acting in denial to control the narrative. ificandream Mar 2024 #44
Simple. Misogyny. soldierant Mar 2024 #45
Americans are trained to hate government but only Democrats mean government; all politicians betsuni Mar 2024 #50
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