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In reply to the discussion: How do I explain to a young Gen Z friend that voting third party is not in her best interest? [View all]markpkessinger
(8,930 posts)63. Last night, my 20-year-old grandniece reached out to me to ask what I thought of RFK, Jr. . . .
Here was my response:
The problem with RFK, Jr. is the same problem with all third-party or independent presidential candidates. The fact is that structurally, a third party candidate can only function as a spoiler, detracting votes from one of the two major candidates. No doubt there are some things that RFK, Jr. says that are attractive. But there is a long history of third party candidates that shows they invariably hurt one of the major candidates at the expense of the other. Jill Stein, in 2016, hurt Hillary and helped Trump to win. Ralph Nader in 2004 helped Bush and hurt John Kerry. Back in the 1990s, the independent candidacy of Ross Perot hurt Bob Dole and helped Clinton. So it isn't one-sided -- at various points in history, these candidates have helped Democrats as well as Republicans. And in many cases, at least some of what they stand for has been attractive. But you have to consider the reality of their chances, and of which side they will ultimately help.
And one more thing to think about is this: even if a third-party/independent candidate could somehow get elected, that candidate would take office with no natural group of supporters in Congress, so he or she would be able to accomplish next to nothing while in office.
The hard reality of the matter is is that a vote for RFK, Jr. is effectively a vote for Trump.
And one more thing to think about is this: even if a third-party/independent candidate could somehow get elected, that candidate would take office with no natural group of supporters in Congress, so he or she would be able to accomplish next to nothing while in office.
The hard reality of the matter is is that a vote for RFK, Jr. is effectively a vote for Trump.
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How do I explain to a young Gen Z friend that voting third party is not in her best interest? [View all]
TSExile
Mar 2024
OP
If her interest is not being a Democrat how are you going to convince her that voting third party isn't in her best
WhiskeyGrinder
Mar 2024
#17
Yes warn her that consequences of a second term of TFA by voting 3rd party will advance TFA chances of
kimbutgar
Mar 2024
#3
If she was really grounded she would see that throwing away your vote is silly.
Blues Heron
Mar 2024
#4
I'm hoping this is the best way, right here. She is not so young that she can't remember 2016.
Aristus
Mar 2024
#18
She needs to understand that voting should be about who is the best person for the position.
LiberalFighter
Mar 2024
#11
It is a fact that as a group, Democrats statistically have a better chance of stopping the Republicans than independents
Shermann
Mar 2024
#14
Why wouldn't she vote for a political party that has a history/platform of supporting women's rights
sinkingfeeling
Mar 2024
#21
This, posted by someone on DU in early Feb, to me is a great message for her and her kind...
consider_this
Mar 2024
#27
One of my friends from high-school said he is voting anyone else on the ballot
BlueKota
Mar 2024
#32
Ask her how she would feel if Biden loses the electoral votes in your state by just a few votes.
Vinca
Mar 2024
#34
I'm sorry but she can't be 'grounded' and 'turned onto women's issue's' if she is considering a 3rd party. Has she
GuppyGal
Mar 2024
#36
I think the post linked to below applies to her situation as well as to protest voting
MN2theMax
Mar 2024
#38
Simple. As long as elections are determined by the electoral college and not the popular vote, third parties will
JohnSJ
Mar 2024
#42
and that is the election that the OP is talking about that they won't vote for Biden/Harris
JohnSJ
Mar 2024
#58
American presidential elections are binary with the result that either the Democratic candidate
elocs
Mar 2024
#50
You might start by walking her through the history of third-party presidential candidates . . .
markpkessinger
Mar 2024
#51
Point out that people voting 3rd party in 2016 helped put Trump in the White House
Attilatheblond
Mar 2024
#52
also Prequel ...the American Nazi Party was a clear and present danger nt
yellowdogintexas
Mar 2024
#61
Last night, my 20-year-old grandniece reached out to me to ask what I thought of RFK, Jr. . . .
markpkessinger
Mar 2024
#63