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Voltaire2

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74. Did you mean Cobalt?
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 08:08 AM
Mar 2024

China is not a major source of lithium- Australia and Chile are.

A lot of batteries are made with both lithium and cobalt, and most of the cobalt comes from the Democratic Republic of Congo.

The DRC (not the PRC) is a mess. It has a barely functional central government and an ongoing civil war. The cobalt mining operations in the DRC, like similar operations across Africa and other peripheral regions are hugely exploitive and environmentally destructive.

Chinese companies gained financial control of about 80% of the cobalt mining operations in the DRC in the early 00’s, basically before western companies realized they were a critical resource. The Chinese control the output, the mined cobalt, they don’t generally operate the mines. This is indistinguishable from the way western enterprises manage their relationships with dubious operations around the globe.

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At this moment... 2naSalit Mar 2024 #1
I don't understand the analogy in this case? mzmolly Mar 2024 #3
Hmm... 2naSalit Mar 2024 #12
Everything you just said should also apply to guns. dickthegrouch Mar 2024 #32
I get your point in comparing the two... 2naSalit Mar 2024 #34
I see. But why focus on one danger and allow multiple others to fester? mzmolly Mar 2024 #49
How many dragons... 2naSalit Mar 2024 #50
Several, if you address the larger mzmolly Mar 2024 #52
The candy is making Biden be the face of destroying TIK TOK...very unpoular with Demsrule86 Mar 2024 #63
It's not just kids. There are a ton of great content creators and communities on that platform. LuvLoogie Mar 2024 #2
Agree. mzmolly Mar 2024 #5
They don't want an unregulated media exposing them and their Treason Fullduplexxx Mar 2024 #14
So the Democrats who voted for this are committing treason? AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2024 #18
No- not treason. But it is a very foolish thing to do. It could allow more GOP Demsrule86 Mar 2024 #64
The problem with Tik Tok isn't that kids are having fun with their phones. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #4
I'm fine with divesting. But why not worry about Twitter? mzmolly Mar 2024 #6
I don't know if it's true or bullshit; just saying this is what all the fuss is about. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #8
Thanks for clarifying. mzmolly Mar 2024 #9
THey could find people vulnerable to Chinese propaganda MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #11
I'd like some consistency regarding foreign influence in our elections and regarding data privacy. mzmolly Mar 2024 #13
i agree with consistency and fixing the bigger problem MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #21
I'll give you that, if this is the beginning. In the meantime, let's hope Musk doesn't buy mzmolly Mar 2024 #28
Yikes! In the meantime, could they divest him of Starlink MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #38
I agree. But 'TikTok' is the issue? mzmolly Mar 2024 #47
Right. A small step, perhaps in the right direction MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #57
Or, the only step. mzmolly Mar 2024 #70
Cheatolini... 2naSalit Mar 2024 #51
I don't believe a single word out of the mouth of mzmolly Mar 2024 #53
Given information, an influencer can shape the message for you. Igel Mar 2024 #26
I don't often quote Chuck Todd but... mzmolly Mar 2024 #31
And Trump Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #7
If the issue is data privacy PASS A FUCKING LAW PROTECTING DATA PRIVACY. Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #10
yeah they should pass a law but MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #15
Why is China a bigger concern than mzmolly Mar 2024 #17
Because the Bear has shown itself to be weak in Ukraine, and they've bludgeoned themselves for 2 years Kennah Mar 2024 #19
They still have overwhelming mzmolly Mar 2024 #22
Very true, and I suspect they'll continue, but I do worry more about China Kennah Mar 2024 #23
I worry more about Russia installing their chosen dictator, mzmolly Mar 2024 #25
Why is China a lesser concern than Russia? Igel Mar 2024 #27
China is not invading anyone. Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #35
They've been threatening to invade Taiwan for years and MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #39
Sure, all that is true. Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #48
Why is it that whenever someone says a person or a country isn't "perfect" they are excusing atrocities MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #56
It is one global economic system Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #61
Yes, we need the lithium but have no power over the conditions MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #65
Did you mean Cobalt? Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #74
I meant lithium where China also dominates mining in MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #79
Australia and Chile. Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #85
yes you said they have lots of lithium MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #86
Huh? Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #88
Yes, we need the lithium but we have no control over the conditions MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #67
Tibet? Vietnam? /nt dickthegrouch Mar 2024 #40
See the EU. Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #33
EXACTLY! mzmolly Mar 2024 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author mzmolly Mar 2024 #46
TikTok will not go away. Investors will line up to buy into it. Or replace it. Midnight Writer Mar 2024 #20
They will divest. That's my thinking behind why there was a delay. Kennah Mar 2024 #24
But the propagandists can't continue the thought. Igel Mar 2024 #29
I think if there is legislation as it relates. It should not end with mzmolly Mar 2024 #30
Yeah, the Republicans are going to buy it.... TheRealNorth Mar 2024 #77
Yeah...rattlesnakes are dangerous. So are cottonmouths. pecosbob Mar 2024 #36
Seems logical. Much moreso than dealing with one problem and not mzmolly Mar 2024 #45
Doubt TicToc is going anywhere womanofthehills Mar 2024 #37
He's trying to reach young people. MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #41
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Will passage of this bill help Trump? MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #68
If it hurts Trump then it helps us. And Biden signs the bill which is why we get blamed. He will Demsrule86 Mar 2024 #69
What does Mnuchin have to do with this? n/t MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #75
he has said he is putting a group of investors together drray23 Mar 2024 #84
Yikes. If we become an autocracy, just as bad a China MadameButterfly Mar 2024 #87
All this tiktok shit can go on youtube. nt GuppyGal Mar 2024 #42
It will be sold to a right wing millionaire...so Russia will have the influence. Demsrule86 Mar 2024 #73
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The SCrOTUS and Republicans are fine with Citizens mzmolly Mar 2024 #44
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Oh heck no. mzmolly Mar 2024 #55
Assume China is data mining TikTok. PufPuf23 Mar 2024 #58
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2024 #59
K & R malaise Mar 2024 #60
If President Biden signs anything about TIK TOK, we could lose the election. It is a big deal Demsrule86 Mar 2024 #62
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And having rich right wing millionaires turns it over to the Russians. Demsrule86 Mar 2024 #72
THIS!!! All of this. Scrivener7 Mar 2024 #80
The Republicans are already recruiting investors.... TheRealNorth Mar 2024 #76
Right mzmolly Mar 2024 #83
Exactly. nt wiggs Mar 2024 #78
This is an excellent question. Scrivener7 Mar 2024 #81
Thank you. mzmolly Mar 2024 #82
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