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SunSeeker

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79. The point is, American EV manufacturers need to up their game and lower costs, or the Chinese will eat their lunch.

Tue Mar 19, 2024, 01:08 AM

Mar 2024

This BYD could be the equivalent of Ford's Model T, in terms of putting people in EVs. The Model T was Ford's universal car that put the world on wheels. The Model T was introduced to the world in 1908. American car manufacturers haven't done anything revolutionary since. It would be a shame, and devastating to our auto industry, if the Chinese beat us with the BYD.

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The $10k Chinese EV that could blow away the competition. [View all] SunSeeker Mar 2024 OP

looks like it will make a large impact Celerity Mar 2024 #1

Looks more like a POS to me. flashman13 Mar 2024 #2

I wager the sales figures will show that your hot take is refuted by many who cannot afford to drop $30+K on a new car Celerity Mar 2024 #3

Yugo mk II Happy Hoosier Mar 2024 #17

When I lived in the US it was staggering how many POS cars I saw. Something you rarely see here. Celerity Mar 2024 #38

We shall. I am curious.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2024 #55

The best selling vehicles in the US annually are never the entry level basic transportation models MichMan Mar 2024 #57

The Tesla Model 3 joins the Toyota Camry as the only cars that rank in the top 10 most sold vehicles of 2023. Celerity Mar 2024 #60

Bullshit. The Model T was an "entry level basic transportation model." SalamanderSleeps Mar 2024 #62

The Model T was introduced more than 100 years ago MichMan Mar 2024 #69

Think of a battery powered Yugo or Pinto and you'll get the idea. flashman13 Mar 2024 #19

It's a different world now. Those examples are 40, 50 years old & no longer relevant. Not everything needs to be related Celerity Mar 2024 #37

The original poster referenced a Ford Model T MichMan Mar 2024 #54

And? Celerity Mar 2024 #73

Pinto's and Yugo's aren't relevant, but a Model T is? MichMan Mar 2024 #74

Two different concepts. nt Celerity Mar 2024 #75

Looks like the Chevy Bolt EV that I had for 2 years. SunSeeker Mar 2024 #4

Nothing revolutionary?? The Fiero? The K-Car? JanMichael Mar 2024 #66

The Fiero! ROFL Wednesdays Mar 2024 #71

Mine did too! JanMichael Mar 2024 #72

LOL SunSeeker Mar 2024 #81

Maybe or maybe not. XorXor Mar 2024 #40

It looks a lot like my old Scion xA subcompact NickB79 Mar 2024 #5

There's an even cheaper model that uses a sodium-ion battery NickB79 Mar 2024 #6

And how much will it be after it meets US safety standards? EX500rider Mar 2024 #7

Right, my first thought was whether this is street legal in the US Rstrstx Mar 2024 #12

I don't have any of those features on my Toyota orthoclad Mar 2024 #21

What year is your vehicle EX500rider Mar 2024 #26

What does that matter? orthoclad Mar 2024 #29

Because older vehicles weren't required to have those features EX500rider Mar 2024 #30

Regulatory capture orthoclad Mar 2024 #31

I doubt the.... EX500rider Mar 2024 #39

Well, you would be wrong MichMan Mar 2024 #42

Ford again. orthoclad Mar 2024 #44

Corporate Quality Control? MichMan Mar 2024 #53

A chunk of those aren't required on new cars NickB79 Mar 2024 #41

That's because pickup trucks and cars have different safety standards EX500rider Mar 2024 #46

Well I'll be NickB79 Mar 2024 #83

There is no reason american cars couldnt have cheap models getagrip_already Mar 2024 #8

No reason Americans can't build cheap models MichMan Mar 2024 #33

EVs are intrinsically simpler orthoclad Mar 2024 #48

What Rivian vehicles are $10,000 ? MichMan Mar 2024 #49

I dunno. Do they have all the regulatory-capture features? orthoclad Mar 2024 #51

If they want to meet NHTSA regulations , they are required to MichMan Mar 2024 #52

Perhaps you would prefer a car like this with none of those regulatory-capture features? MichMan Mar 2024 #56

I can't live without AC in Florida but I agree with RubyRose Mar 2024 #67

Funny story.... when my son was looking to buy his first new car getagrip_already Mar 2024 #68

No Thanks mockmonkey Mar 2024 #9

Chevy Bolt batteries caught on fire too. That's why I dumped mine. SunSeeker Mar 2024 #10

Teslas are by far the most reliable EV's Polybius Mar 2024 #24

No, Teslas are not the most reliable EVs. Not even close. SunSeeker Mar 2024 #32

I mean their charging standards that they set Polybius Mar 2024 #35

Yes, Teslas definitely have the best charging network. I think all EVs will end up on it. SunSeeker Mar 2024 #43

Musk just makes me shake my head at times Polybius Mar 2024 #59

Yes Tesla chargers are the best from experience most others are 100% crap though making planning uponit7771 Mar 2024 #45

That fast charge has problems. orthoclad Mar 2024 #50

Not entirely sure Musk should pay to upgrade the power grid Polybius May 2024 #84

The cheapest model uses sodium-ion batteries NickB79 Mar 2024 #15

Like Detroit is honest? orthoclad Mar 2024 #23

A couple things... WarGamer Mar 2024 #11

I had a 2005 Pontiac Vibe with only 130 hp and it was quite peppy. SunSeeker Mar 2024 #13

Don't we in this country call them golf carts? Wonder Why Mar 2024 #16

As opposed to cab-crew pickups orthoclad Mar 2024 #28

AKA the top selling vehicles year after year MichMan Mar 2024 #70

Don't need as much horsepower orthoclad Mar 2024 #27

Looks like a modern version of the cars that are filling Chinese EV graveyards. TheBlackAdder Mar 2024 #14

"per say"? area51 Mar 2024 #18

Their spelling may be off, but at least they speak Latin. HeartachesNhangovers Mar 2024 #20

That's what hapens when you dictate to Siri to type it out for you. nt SunSeeker Mar 2024 #65

Now if they could add solar panels orthoclad Mar 2024 #22

What kind of charging does it use? Polybius Mar 2024 #25

I think they can use Tesla chargers. SunSeeker Mar 2024 #36

It's a Chinese car currently sold in China, so it uses their standard. tinrobot Mar 2024 #47

Li Auto stock is rising while Tesla sinks. RandySF Mar 2024 #34

Distributed... Zeitghost Mar 2024 #58

Maybe Alibaba? SunSeeker Mar 2024 #63

You get what you pay for. Jeebo Mar 2024 #61

If you're lucky you get what you paid for. SunSeeker Mar 2024 #64

Blow away the competition? Barry Markson Mar 2024 #76

The point is, American EV manufacturers need to up their game and lower costs, or the Chinese will eat their lunch. SunSeeker Mar 2024 #79

Looks like a death trap nt doc03 Mar 2024 #77

Maybe. Like my Chevy Bolt was. SunSeeker Mar 2024 #80

$10K? Yes please! Aussie105 Mar 2024 #78

If we are to solve/at least slow down the climate crisis. Prairie_Seagull Mar 2024 #82