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mahina

(20,674 posts)
37. Honolulu is worse, rail-wise
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 02:34 PM
Apr 2024

(It was going to cost 5 billion !?! But now will cost 10 billion- and this is not borne statewide but is just a City and County of Honolulu cost, i.e. Oʻahu. Suuuucks.)

Honolulu Rail Is Still Waiting For The Feds To Release Large Chunks of Money
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HART had hoped $125 million would quickly be released last year to help fund the $10 billion project but now expects that money won't arrive until December.
https://www.civilbeat.org/2023/08/honolulu-rail-is-still-waiting-for-the-feds-to-release-large-chunks-of-money/

The Honolulu rail authority’s long wait for some promised federal funding will likely drag on until the end of this year, which would be a year longer than the city expected.

Members of the Honolulu Authority for Rapid Transportation were presented with a financial update Thursday that disclosed that $125 million in federal funding — money HART officials expected to receive last December — will probably not arrive until this December.

City officials signed an agreement with the federal government in 2012 that called for $1.55 billion in federal funding to help finance the city rail line. However, $744 million of that federal money has been held up since 2014 as the Honolulu rail project suffered years of delays and gigantic cost overruns.

The $125 million is the first chunk of that $744 million, and the balance won’t be available until even later.

Rick Keene, deputy executive director and chief operating officer for HART, told the HART finance committee that even with that delay in federal funding, “we still have adequate cash flow, adequate anticipated balances to fund all of our expenditures.”

Last year HART won approval from the Federal Transit Administration for the city’s latest “recovery plan,” which spells out how the project will be completed.

The recovery plan included some major changes, such as halting the rail line at South Street. The original 2012 agreement called for the line to extend from East Kapolei beyond South Street to Ala Moana Center, but the city opted to truncate the line to cut costs.

The FTA accepted the city recovery plan on Sept. 30, raising hopes that the $125 million tranche of federal funding would quickly be released. But the FTA is requiring an amended “full funding grant agreement” be finalized between FTA and the city before it releases any of the long-awaited $744 million.

Ten months later, that full funding grant agreement still hasn’t been approved.

HART still needs to complete a number of steps to finalize the new grant agreement, including clearing a federal environmental “re-evaluation” of the so-called “Mauka Shift” of the rail guideway along Dillingham Boulevard, officials said.

The Mauka Shift involves slightly re-routing the rail line along Dillingham to avoid utilities in the area, which should help cut costs. HART plans to submit the documentation required for that environmental re-evaluation to the FTA this month, according to a written update on the project.

Keene told the HART finance committee on Thursday that the transfer of that $125 million to HART might be delayed even longer, and could slip into early next year.

HART expects to receive the next $250 million in federal funding next year. The FTA is requiring that the city award a contract for construction of the final three-mile segment of elevated guideway through the city center and the last six rail stations before FTA will release that money.

The city rail project was expected to cost about $5.2 billion when the full funding grant agreement was signed in 2012, and construction was supposed to be completed by 2020.

Since then the anticipated cost of the project has ballooned to nearly $10 billion including interest charges, and completion of the shortened rail line is now expected in spring of 2031. The first half of the rail line — nearly 11 miles — opened on June 30.


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We can't keep slow moving freight trains on the tracks questionseverything Apr 2024 #1
Different tracks, for one. tinrobot Apr 2024 #2
some of us have been saying this all along... WarGamer Apr 2024 #3
Blame the NIMBYs. n/t Yavin4 Apr 2024 #4
sorry that this has become botched stopdiggin Apr 2024 #5
That is why I highlighted both projects ripcord Apr 2024 #6
Totally different territory and way of thinkingl Wonder Why Apr 2024 #45
Love high speed rail. We could take a lesson from other countries. Joinfortmill Apr 2024 #52
How come this works elsewhere? Arthur_Frain Apr 2024 #7
For the last 30+ years Caribbeans Apr 2024 #11
The Chinese HSR system is stunningly good. NT. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #28
Not from what I've read Kaleva Apr 2024 #42
I'm sure you think that is somehow relevant. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #43
There are problems Kaleva Apr 2024 #46
Ok. Many complicated human organizations 'have problems', probably all of them. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #48
China's HSR is a white elephant Kaleva Apr 2024 #44
Unlike the US, China knows how to handle NIMBYs n/t MichMan Apr 2024 #57
We are getting high speed rail ripcord Apr 2024 #12
I question your contention it is successful in. FL Conjuay Apr 2024 #24
it's not HSR. Fastest speed is less than Acela though average may be higher. Wonder Why Apr 2024 #40
Well, I live in the heart of California's Central Valley vanlassie Apr 2024 #21
And yet other countries Retrograde Apr 2024 #8
Other countries don't make it as easy to hold things up in Court. brooklynite Apr 2024 #10
Shorter distance. Less anti-rail, fewer NIMBYies, less wasteful practices Wonder Why Apr 2024 #41
Building through empty desert is easier than building through developed farmland and cities. brooklynite Apr 2024 #9
A lot Johonny Apr 2024 #13
High rollers were never the target ripcord Apr 2024 #14
I'm well aware of the commuter rail link (I'm a retired Transportation Planner) brooklynite Apr 2024 #15
I will be happy taking a large number of cars off the road ripcord Apr 2024 #17
Any info as to when they might link miyazaki Apr 2024 #16
Unfortunately it looks like 10 years or more ripcord Apr 2024 #18
You can take Metrolink from Downtown LA to Rancho Cucamonga. tinrobot Apr 2024 #20
And you can take Metro-North to New Haven to catch the Acela to Boston... brooklynite Apr 2024 #22
Sure, but that connection was built 100+ years ago. tinrobot Apr 2024 #50
One thing you learn in the planning biz... brooklynite Apr 2024 #53
Do you also learn that right of ways are expensive... tinrobot Apr 2024 #54
Absolutely. Which is why I think BUILDING Brightline West will be easier than CalHSR... brooklynite Apr 2024 #55
Blame the GOP in California. Xolodno Apr 2024 #19
It'll cost 10 trillions when finished dalton99a Apr 2024 #23
Money would have better spent on regional projects Auggie Apr 2024 #25
This is the correct answer Zeitghost Apr 2024 #35
I voted against it. Myopic Schwarzenegger was for it. Auggie Apr 2024 #38
In today's chapter of "why can't we have nice things in this country?".... Initech Apr 2024 #26
Wong DBoon Apr 2024 #27
It is classic FUD. I think people are mostly unaware that Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #29
The proof of a boondoggle is the difference between the ballot measure authorozation and facts ripcord Apr 2024 #36
Same is true of any other large public works project DBoon Apr 2024 #39
I was on board when it was originally proposed as a high-speed SF-LA rail. When they started talking Central Valley MenloParque Apr 2024 #30
The line from Bakersfield to Sacramento is going to be a megacity someday... hunter Apr 2024 #31
It was a money pit from the start. As much as I admired Jerry Brown, he pushed demosincebirth Apr 2024 #32
I can get a plane ticket to SF from LA for $50 Jacson6 Apr 2024 #33
High speed rail is powered by electricity, not filthy jet fuel. hunter Apr 2024 #49
It's not about LA-SF. It's about connecting those cities to the rest of the state. tinrobot Apr 2024 #51
perhaps the 2+ hours that are burned on security, stopdiggin Apr 2024 #56
You got that right. republianmushroom Apr 2024 #34
Honolulu is worse, rail-wise mahina Apr 2024 #37
We have same issue here in Maryland. The Purple Line light rail costs have more than doubled from initial estimates. honest.abe Apr 2024 #47
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