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stopdiggin

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56. perhaps the 2+ hours that are burned on security,
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 11:23 PM
Apr 2024

boarding, and sitting on the tarmac - and all the other lovely bits that grace today's 'air travel' experience?
(many would much rather take a stiff beating - although, granted, in large part as in so many other things - we've gradual accustomed ourselves to the abuse)

Riding the rails is, overall, 100 times less miserable and migraine inducing. And then of course there's the footprint ...

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We can't keep slow moving freight trains on the tracks questionseverything Apr 2024 #1
Different tracks, for one. tinrobot Apr 2024 #2
some of us have been saying this all along... WarGamer Apr 2024 #3
Blame the NIMBYs. n/t Yavin4 Apr 2024 #4
sorry that this has become botched stopdiggin Apr 2024 #5
That is why I highlighted both projects ripcord Apr 2024 #6
Totally different territory and way of thinkingl Wonder Why Apr 2024 #45
Love high speed rail. We could take a lesson from other countries. Joinfortmill Apr 2024 #52
How come this works elsewhere? Arthur_Frain Apr 2024 #7
For the last 30+ years Caribbeans Apr 2024 #11
The Chinese HSR system is stunningly good. NT. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #28
Not from what I've read Kaleva Apr 2024 #42
I'm sure you think that is somehow relevant. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #43
There are problems Kaleva Apr 2024 #46
Ok. Many complicated human organizations 'have problems', probably all of them. Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #48
China's HSR is a white elephant Kaleva Apr 2024 #44
Unlike the US, China knows how to handle NIMBYs n/t MichMan Apr 2024 #57
We are getting high speed rail ripcord Apr 2024 #12
I question your contention it is successful in. FL Conjuay Apr 2024 #24
it's not HSR. Fastest speed is less than Acela though average may be higher. Wonder Why Apr 2024 #40
Well, I live in the heart of California's Central Valley vanlassie Apr 2024 #21
And yet other countries Retrograde Apr 2024 #8
Other countries don't make it as easy to hold things up in Court. brooklynite Apr 2024 #10
Shorter distance. Less anti-rail, fewer NIMBYies, less wasteful practices Wonder Why Apr 2024 #41
Building through empty desert is easier than building through developed farmland and cities. brooklynite Apr 2024 #9
A lot Johonny Apr 2024 #13
High rollers were never the target ripcord Apr 2024 #14
I'm well aware of the commuter rail link (I'm a retired Transportation Planner) brooklynite Apr 2024 #15
I will be happy taking a large number of cars off the road ripcord Apr 2024 #17
Any info as to when they might link miyazaki Apr 2024 #16
Unfortunately it looks like 10 years or more ripcord Apr 2024 #18
You can take Metrolink from Downtown LA to Rancho Cucamonga. tinrobot Apr 2024 #20
And you can take Metro-North to New Haven to catch the Acela to Boston... brooklynite Apr 2024 #22
Sure, but that connection was built 100+ years ago. tinrobot Apr 2024 #50
One thing you learn in the planning biz... brooklynite Apr 2024 #53
Do you also learn that right of ways are expensive... tinrobot Apr 2024 #54
Absolutely. Which is why I think BUILDING Brightline West will be easier than CalHSR... brooklynite Apr 2024 #55
Blame the GOP in California. Xolodno Apr 2024 #19
It'll cost 10 trillions when finished dalton99a Apr 2024 #23
Money would have better spent on regional projects Auggie Apr 2024 #25
This is the correct answer Zeitghost Apr 2024 #35
I voted against it. Myopic Schwarzenegger was for it. Auggie Apr 2024 #38
In today's chapter of "why can't we have nice things in this country?".... Initech Apr 2024 #26
Wong DBoon Apr 2024 #27
It is classic FUD. I think people are mostly unaware that Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #29
The proof of a boondoggle is the difference between the ballot measure authorozation and facts ripcord Apr 2024 #36
Same is true of any other large public works project DBoon Apr 2024 #39
I was on board when it was originally proposed as a high-speed SF-LA rail. When they started talking Central Valley MenloParque Apr 2024 #30
The line from Bakersfield to Sacramento is going to be a megacity someday... hunter Apr 2024 #31
It was a money pit from the start. As much as I admired Jerry Brown, he pushed demosincebirth Apr 2024 #32
I can get a plane ticket to SF from LA for $50 Jacson6 Apr 2024 #33
High speed rail is powered by electricity, not filthy jet fuel. hunter Apr 2024 #49
It's not about LA-SF. It's about connecting those cities to the rest of the state. tinrobot Apr 2024 #51
perhaps the 2+ hours that are burned on security, stopdiggin Apr 2024 #56
You got that right. republianmushroom Apr 2024 #34
Honolulu is worse, rail-wise mahina Apr 2024 #37
We have same issue here in Maryland. The Purple Line light rail costs have more than doubled from initial estimates. honest.abe Apr 2024 #47
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