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In reply to the discussion: No longer defending Israel [View all]Xolodno
(7,378 posts)and its a big IF, it will be to this issue. Vietnam wasn't lost, it was the absolute horrifying violence that turned people off to it. And thus, we had to leave.
And some here can scream until they are blue in the face that the alternative is worse, yes it is, very much so. But we are a microcosm of an electorate that does not represent the majority, get over it. We have a good issue of the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade, but, most voters have very short term memories and often vote on issues that can be counted on one hand, if that. And starving and dead children make one hell of an add. It's one of the reasons why I think the Speaker did an about face and is willing to change his tune and bring Ukraine aid on the floor. Here we are helping one nation trying to fend for itself for its existence, but at the same time, giving more weapons to a nation with nukes who is attacking indiscriminately on a population. Add insult to injury some here just say "well, that's war". I bet they are laughing their asses off in the Kremlin. We aren't looking good around the world right now and it doesn't matter who you blame, actions speak. I've travelled enough to know that.
Some of the comments I see in this thread, well, they are probably secret and/or lying to themselves as Bibi apologists, sad to say. I've seen enough documentaries where settlers didn't even consider Palestinians even human. And no doubt, some of them are in the military. And the irony, Bibi created these conditions for it all to happen because of his hubris and some still refuse to acknowledge it.
There, I wrote it. I expect the usual crowd to hem and haw, whataboutism, etc. Don't worry, I won't bother responding as you won't convince me. But it will massage certain things for yourself.