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sarisataka

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39. Any question may be asked
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 04:49 PM
Apr 2024

and asking a question you already know the answer to is a common debating technique. It is used by lawyers every day to argue cases.

If a person says they are "just asking" while actually using the technique as an argument, that is what makes it intellectually dishonest. Intellectual honesty includes a desire for knowledge to reach an undetermined conclusion. it also implies being open to reaching a conclusion you are not happy with, yet accept it is the correct end based on the evidence.

Your follow up post indicated you did know the answer to your question and were attempting to reach a predetermined position. Perhaps that post was simply phrased poorly.

And yes, the answer is obviously Israel has lesser casualties overall. Those who have an agenda use the fact to try and maintain the war is unfair. There are even claims Hamas is no longer fighting. As one famous general said (paraphrased) you don't win by dying for your cause, you make the other dumb bastard die for his cause.

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I don't know but I do know... Think. Again. Apr 2024 #1
I've been wondering also. vanamonde Apr 2024 #2
You can wonder all you want, but don't ask about it. Rustynaerduwell Apr 2024 #42
Answer: Yes TheProle Apr 2024 #3
Israel has killed or captured 12,000+ Hamas members. Mosby Apr 2024 #6
That is not correct. You are including Oct 7 AloeVera Apr 2024 #11
Since when would you exclude the initial invasion that caused the conflict? TheProle Apr 2024 #13
Because the question was AFTER October 7 obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #15
Actually it was "since" TheProle Apr 2024 #17
Common mistake. AloeVera Apr 2024 #20
Apparently, many Israeli hostages were killed, in Gaza, since October 7. yardwork Apr 2024 #26
Terrible news and I hope it's not true. AloeVera Apr 2024 #57
We know for a fact that some are dead. yardwork Apr 2024 #59
I try my best not to do crap. AloeVera Apr 2024 #18
I did. "Since" is ambiguous and can be either inclusive of a date, or exclusive. TheProle Apr 2024 #19
In what way was my question intellectually dishonest? Rustynaerduwell Apr 2024 #23
You just described intellectual dishonesty... nt sarisataka Apr 2024 #24
? Rustynaerduwell Apr 2024 #31
When a person asks a question sarisataka Apr 2024 #36
So only questions in which you have "truly no idea" of the possible answer Rustynaerduwell Apr 2024 #38
Any question may be asked sarisataka Apr 2024 #39
I didn't know the answer. I only know (little) of the history. Rustynaerduwell Apr 2024 #41
Well to answer, yes there have been Israeli casualties sarisataka Apr 2024 #43
Yes you will, and you should. AloeVera Apr 2024 #44
Ask away TheProle Apr 2024 #45
I wasn't fishing for anything. Rustynaerduwell Apr 2024 #46
Apologies. I'm OCD about accuracy and facts. AloeVera Apr 2024 #50
As for the 12,000 Palestinians killed you quoted. AloeVera Apr 2024 #51
No one disallowed your question TheProle Apr 2024 #25
I think you did with your comment about my "intellectually dishonest" question. Rustynaerduwell Apr 2024 #30
Is your point Hamas sucks at warfighting? EX500rider Apr 2024 #32
I had no point. I was curious. I asked a question. Rustynaerduwell Apr 2024 #34
Well that is the correct answer, you are welcome EX500rider Apr 2024 #35
You are 100% correct obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #14
Doesn't state if those soldiers multigraincracker Apr 2024 #33
Numbers seem elusive but something like 100 killed, 600 wounded since Oct 7 dutch777 Apr 2024 #4
Don't forget the unknown number of civilian hostages killed in Gaza since Oct 7. yardwork Apr 2024 #27
Sadly, you are probably right, many of them are dead, caught in Israeli bombings or by neglect and abuse dutch777 Apr 2024 #62
Have any Hamas militants been dying in this "war"? maxsolomon Apr 2024 #5
Hamas won;t break out the deaths for propaganda reasons... Happy Hoosier Apr 2024 #7
I'm not sure if the "Genocide Joe" crowd understands that many Hamas fighters are in that number maxsolomon Apr 2024 #9
Per Times of Israel today - IDF numbers Nanjeanne Apr 2024 #8
Thanks Nanjeanne. See my post. AloeVera Apr 2024 #16
Not enough for some people apparently sarisataka Apr 2024 #10
Many would be delighted if there were a lot more dead Jews. DavidDvorkin Apr 2024 #22
Certainly no one here on DU (other than some rando, spun up burner troll accounts that are quickly MIRT'd) Celerity Apr 2024 #61
Here are the actual figures, per IDF and PM's office. AloeVera Apr 2024 #12
Excuse me... PCIntern Apr 2024 #21
No Rustynaerduwell Apr 2024 #40
Yes RandySF Apr 2024 #28
I don't know But the GD Butchers of HAMAS have just REJECTD A Cha Apr 2024 #29
Is this a contest or something? Elessar Zappa Apr 2024 #37
Apparently Ace Rothstein Apr 2024 #48
The media much prefer talking about Palestinian deaths. DavidDvorkin Apr 2024 #47
Yes, 4 IDF troops were killed in an ambush over the weekend. Ace Rothstein Apr 2024 #49
Are wars supposed to be fair or something? NT Happy Hoosier Apr 2024 #52
Are we supposed to not ask about casualties or something? Rustynaerduwell Apr 2024 #53
You can, but it was worded weirdly Happy Hoosier Apr 2024 #56
The thought never occurred to me. Rustynaerduwell Apr 2024 #58
Do you have to poke the bear? Lunabell Apr 2024 #54
You can count them. As of March 24 question everything Apr 2024 #55
Question: Were Gazans, including military, dying in this 'war' in any numbers before Oct 7, 2023? keithbvadu2 Apr 2024 #60
Google says 260 IDF killed in the ground invasion of Gaza. DemocraticPatriot Apr 2024 #63
If you have seen Mike Fuckabees commercials thousands of Israelis have been killed on the first Autumn Apr 2024 #64
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