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100. Reed's family and others are questioning police version of shooting.
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 08:29 AM
Apr 2024

Last edited Thu Apr 11, 2024, 09:01 AM - Edit history (1)

"Body cam footage released Tuesday of a traffic stop in Chicago gone horrifically wrong is calling into question the official story told by police on the scene. Five plainclothed Chicago police swarmed 26-year-old Dexter Reed’s car on March 21, pumping 96 shots into his vehicle after Reed apparently fired at officers. However, the officers’ body cam footage tells a very confusing story."

"For instance, why did it take five plainclothed officers in tactical vests with guns drawn jumping out of an unmarked car to swarm a vehicle for a seatbelt violation? Why were officers shouting at Reed right from the start? Why did the officers from across the street feel the need to empty their weapons and then reload? And did Reed really shoot first? After reviewing the video, it’s unclear both to us and to other news outlets, like CNN. Reed’s family also find the entire situation confusing:"

https://jalopnik.com/police-fire-96-times-at-driver-after-pulling-him-over-f-1851400666

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/09/us/dexter-reed-chicago-police-shooting-video/index.html

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"I wasn't aware that failure to wear a seatbelt was a capital offense." It's not EX500rider Apr 2024 #1
They didn't shoot him because he didn't wear a seatbelt. Ace Rothstein Apr 2024 #2
Money is on the line. Frasier Balzov Apr 2024 #5
Pro tip- if pulled over for not wearing a seat belt sarisataka Apr 2024 #3
Many angles from body worn cameras available here. Frasier Balzov Apr 2024 #4
I watched one of the videos there TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #13
Wearing a seatbelt is not a capital offense, but I'm guessing shooting at officers might be? Chakaconcarne Apr 2024 #6
I Wasn't Aware... ProfessorGAC Apr 2024 #7
Officers will continue to shoot until the threat is unable to respond EX500rider Apr 2024 #8
How Do They Know When That Is? ProfessorGAC Apr 2024 #9
And the same it applies to anyone saying it it's too many EX500rider Apr 2024 #11
What was the appropriate number sarisataka Apr 2024 #10
None ProfessorGAC Apr 2024 #18
How about don't break the law and you won't get pulled over EX500rider Apr 2024 #23
like this guy! do what you're told! ret5hd Apr 2024 #26
Bet your life on it? Easterncedar Apr 2024 #27
Actually as a general rule is absolutely correct EX500rider Apr 2024 #32
"The police arrest almost a million people a month" That is a disturbing stat in itself. Lochloosa Apr 2024 #101
actually gone down some since last time I looked EX500rider Apr 2024 #102
and this guy! you'll be ok! ret5hd Apr 2024 #28
Spelling error in your post title... Shipwack Apr 2024 #65
Having watched 100's of police dash cam & body cam footage on YouTube... EX500rider Apr 2024 #68
So they had no clue on his race but somehow knew he was not wearing a seatbelt? Celerity Apr 2024 #95
Did I say in most cases or did I say in this case? EX500rider Apr 2024 #99
We could discuss the validity of traffic stops sarisataka Apr 2024 #25
I'm going to venture to say that there were a few minutes (at least) omitted from the start Igel Apr 2024 #30
How many gunshots do you think are a proportionate response? TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #12
Less Than 19 Each ProfessorGAC Apr 2024 #14
I can't believe anyone is trying to blame the police TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #15
Quote Me Please ProfessorGAC Apr 2024 #19
Sorry, not trying to put words in your mouth TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #20
Well it really depends on when Reed last discharged his weapon. harumph Apr 2024 #24
With cops, if they give you 1, you're probably getting the whole magazine dumped at you. Like potato chips - can't eat 1 SoFlaBro Apr 2024 #29
Yes it turns out they are fond of going home alive EX500rider Apr 2024 #33
Lol, how many gunshots are they supposed to allow the guy to take? ExciteBike66 Apr 2024 #103
Don't shoot at cops? ripcord Apr 2024 #16
The guy decided to shoot at police officers rollin74 Apr 2024 #17
Thank goodness for the ninety-sixth shot or who knows what else he might have done. Torchlight Apr 2024 #21
If the preliminary evidence is correct that Reed fired first, then the main thing wrong here... Silent3 Apr 2024 #22
Maybe? TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #31
when? maybe when... ret5hd Apr 2024 #34
The one video I watched TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #35
Those cops must be ex-IDF ! DemocraticPatriot Apr 2024 #36
My first thought MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #92
A pretextual stop started it all. FTP. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2024 #37
If you can write a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt then they have to stop you to write it EX500rider Apr 2024 #38
They don't, actually. Cops mail tickets all the time, such as for running a red light, which one could argue is much WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2024 #39
So what's the worry then about the stop, criminals might get caught? EX500rider Apr 2024 #40
It's a pretextual stop. Cops use them for speculative investigations, and they serve as a little Fourth Amendment WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2024 #41
Quite easy to avoid EX500rider Apr 2024 #45
Lol wearing your seatbelt doesn't prevent you from being pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt. That's the point. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2024 #48
Even if that was true EX500rider Apr 2024 #50
even if what were true WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2024 #52
Your supposition that they make up seat belt violations EX500rider Apr 2024 #53
They make up all sorts of things. That's the issue that -- WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2024 #60
Sure just link to a study showing the percentage of traffic stops that are made up violations EX500rider Apr 2024 #62
lol it's not quantified because it's legal. The system relies on it to do its work WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2024 #64
The system of arresting people with 5 outstanding warrants & illegal firearms who try to commit murder or another system EX500rider Apr 2024 #66
There were no warrants. He was on pretrial release and had been in court a few days before. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2024 #69
Someone else in the thread said he had warrants, what I found was: EX500rider Apr 2024 #71
They showed up in plainclothes in an unmarked car. For all he knew, they weren't cops. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2024 #76
Except for the blue flashing lights on the SUV & jackets that said POLICE? EX500rider Apr 2024 #77
Except for those. Whoever was trying to open the door was in total plainclothes. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2024 #82
A unmarked white SUV that has blue flashing lights EX500rider Apr 2024 #83
To bring it back home, my argument is that a man might still be alive and other people and their families might not have WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2024 #84
And mine is that if he hadn't tried to murder (and did wound one) officers, they wouldn't have shot back at him EX500rider Apr 2024 #85
I'd definitely like to see more about the stop. Makes no sense that an unmarked police care would stop someone for Silent Type Apr 2024 #79
It is true, we know that uponit7771 Apr 2024 #111
Sure, just link to a study showing how many traffic stops are for made up reasons..or it's just your opinion IMO EX500rider Apr 2024 #112
I noticed you left out the black people part, gas lighting is rude uponit7771 Apr 2024 #115
What "black people part"? EX500rider Apr 2024 #117
The part where black people are disproportionately racially profiled by police, you already know this uponit7771 Apr 2024 #118
BTW, You knew this before you started this context of post(link) uponit7771 Apr 2024 #116
Really, I knew about Chicago police policies? How exactly did I know & how would u know if i did? psychic? EX500rider Apr 2024 #119
You know about racial disparities in policing, convince me or yourself you don't know ...go ahead uponit7771 Apr 2024 #120
Oddly Ontheboundry Apr 2024 #78
So you didn't pull out a firearm & try to kill the officer...maybe that's a better way to go..huh EX500rider Apr 2024 #80
I should not have laughed at this Ontheboundry Apr 2024 #87
... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2024 #43
Something untrue in that statement you'd like to point out EX500rider Apr 2024 #44
A lot of people on here... DemocratInPa Apr 2024 #108
My skin color does not afford me to give the police in America the benefit of the doubt like this uponit7771 Apr 2024 #110
there was a time onethatcares Apr 2024 #42
They only do that for a felony stop EX500rider Apr 2024 #46
the words onethatcares Apr 2024 #47
Sounds like they have that backwards EX500rider Apr 2024 #51
This you? MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #91
Pretty sure I said in most cases not all cases if you notice EX500rider Apr 2024 #98
police normally give those types of commands rollin74 Apr 2024 #49
ok, I give up onethatcares Apr 2024 #54
I don't know that they were rollin74 Apr 2024 #59
from the OP onethatcares Apr 2024 #73
Somehow your post left out kacekwl Apr 2024 #55
Are you sure one officer fired 50 rounds EX500rider Apr 2024 #56
Thats what was kacekwl Apr 2024 #61
Seems unlikely that one officer did that many reloads, I'll see when the cam footage gets made into a coherent vid EX500rider Apr 2024 #67
I did a breakdown from the bodycam footage further down in the thread, post#109, nobody fired even close to 50 rounds EX500rider Apr 2024 #121
in one of the videos I watched an officer told... rollin74 Apr 2024 #63
"I wasn't aware that failure to wear a seatbelt was a capital offense." Aparently if one is black, it is ... marble falls Apr 2024 #57
Perhaps you should watch the video? EX500rider Apr 2024 #74
The cop looks like a thug in the image I saw ecstatic Apr 2024 #89
Three or four of the officers in the video are wearing vests that say police or jackets that say police EX500rider Apr 2024 #90
"99% of what cops say after murdering someone is a lie." Jedi Guy Apr 2024 #93
It's not. ForgedCrank Apr 2024 #58
I understand the dead man shot first but I feel the number of shots does reveal NoSheep Apr 2024 #70
How many shots would have been acceptable? sarisataka Apr 2024 #72
"how zealous they were to kill" More like very zealous not to get killed EX500rider Apr 2024 #75
They were just taking traffic safety seriously. Chainfire Apr 2024 #81
Scarred enid602 Apr 2024 #86
"How do you explain this to your kids?" Jedi Guy Apr 2024 #94
If no bystanders were killed it's a friggin miracle. MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #97
That's so unfair. Terrible ecstatic Apr 2024 #88
This is disgusting MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #96
JFC DemocratInPa Apr 2024 #104
Where are you getting that he fired 11 shots? asm128 Apr 2024 #106
There are videos out there.. DemocratInPa Apr 2024 #107
Reed's family and others are questioning police version of shooting. sop Apr 2024 #100
+1, my skin color doesn't afford me to give the cops the benefit of the doubt uponit7771 Apr 2024 #114
Seatbelts maryland native Apr 2024 #105
Here's every officers body cams EX500rider Apr 2024 #109
It is quite easy to tell sarisataka Apr 2024 #113
Like the flashing blue lights on the police explorer or the POLICE tac vests or jackets 4 of them were wearing EX500rider Apr 2024 #122
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