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Ping Tung

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10. I started opposing war when I was in the marines.
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 12:53 PM
Apr 2024

The escalation of the war in Vietnam had begun and it was obvious where it was heading. I was a few months away from getting out but I (and everybody else) still had to qualify as a killer on the rifle range.

It was a beautiful morning in the hills near the base. A bit chilly at first but it warmed up nicely. Meadowlarks were singing. At one point we had to lay down and pop away at silhouette targets of "enemies". We just relaxed and waited for the targets came up. When they did I banged away. They would pull the targets down plaster them with little round white indicators of there the bullets hit and pull them up so we could see the results. I was a good shot and my hits were pretty close together near the center of the silhouette.

For some reason, at that moment, I realized what those little white pieces of tape stood for. They meant that I could be sent off to Vietnam and ordered to kill people I didn't know, had nothing against, and might have become friends with. All so LBJ could burnish his Anti-Communist creds.

They asked me to re-enlist or extend my enlistment for a year. They offered me a promotion and the pick of stations to be assigned. I knew the Gunny Sgt as a pretty decent guy so I told him what I really thought about the war, LBJ, and the Marine Crotch (as we called it).
I ended up getting 30 days of mess duty which I suspected had something to do with my commentary. In late June of 1965 my enlistment was up and I was finally free.

I got a job and started college and joined in the anti-war demos. It took awhile to move beyond being against that war and becoming a pacifist against all war and violence. But, the more I saw the wars that happened since and studied the history of them (I got a b.a. in history) the more convinced I've become that most people around the world want no part of the madness created by "strong leaders" that has ended with millions of dead people who just wanted to live their lives.

“Patriots always talk of dying for their country but never of killing for their country.”

Bertrand Russell




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Ummm... Hope22 Apr 2024 #1
I am opposed to killing. MuseRider Apr 2024 #2
Agree.... Hope22 Apr 2024 #4
r mdmc Apr 2024 #5
Which Iraq war? Stargleamer Apr 2024 #3
r mdmc Apr 2024 #7
Why did you oppose gulf war 1? Mosby Apr 2024 #23
Checking in snowybirdie Apr 2024 #6
Here. broiles Apr 2024 #8
What "better idea' has Dennis Kucinich ever had? brooklynite Apr 2024 #9
I started opposing war when I was in the marines. Ping Tung Apr 2024 #10
thanks for the post mdmc Apr 2024 #15
lol Dennis Kucinich with a good idea? Elessar Zappa Apr 2024 #11
... Sky Jewels Apr 2024 #12
Kick Eko Apr 2024 #13
I opposed/oppose both. Crunchy Frog Apr 2024 #14
agreed mdmc Apr 2024 #16
So which is it? The post with which you agree is different from your OP question everything Apr 2024 #34
It isn't "total" enough, they still have not surrendered TheKentuckian Apr 2024 #39
Or maybe they could employ a response that was more effective and efficient, Crunchy Frog Apr 2024 #49
So what kind of force would you use for destroying underground tunnels? wnylib Apr 2024 #51
Count me in Jokerman Apr 2024 #17
I remember when we were told PatSeg Apr 2024 #20
How about Afghanistan JI7 Apr 2024 #18
You could at least spell Israel correctly Danmel Apr 2024 #19
I think the issue is the nature of that response PatSeg Apr 2024 #22
The required response is sufficient force to dictate an unconditional surrender or the utter annihilation of capacity TheKentuckian Apr 2024 #58
I have kept my mouth shut but can't any longer happybird Apr 2024 #31
Glad you were finally able to get your feelings out about Jews and Israel. BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #37
Thanks happybird Apr 2024 #41
Probably for the best. BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #47
It is always so helpful when someone can 'splain anti-Semitism to Jews. Behind the Aegis Apr 2024 #45
Outstanding statement, Happybird! Bravo! Basic LA Apr 2024 #53
Fixed just for you Danmel mdmc Apr 2024 #42
Here cally Apr 2024 #21
As a citizen, there isn't much I can do to stop war. LeftInTX Apr 2024 #24
I oppose both (well, opposed Iraq) and in a weird coincidence Bettie Apr 2024 #25
Still won't correct the Israel spelling? NoRethugFriends Apr 2024 #26
This is how it starts. Diminish the identity and then the physical. question everything Apr 2024 #29
Might as well add Hitler, the take over of Europe, the concentration camps question everything Apr 2024 #27
The thousand year reich would be going strong had they been in the White House. BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #38
Despite being a pacifist who doesn't have a problem LeonidPlanck Apr 2024 #28
They can lay down their arms, release any hostages they haven't murdered, and fucking surrender. TheKentuckian Apr 2024 #40
Me! Me! Me! Lunabell Apr 2024 #30
Total peacenik here Tree Lady Apr 2024 #32
yes mike_c Apr 2024 #33
Doesn't Kucinich support the Russian invasion of Ukraine? Pretty Fly Apr 2024 #35
Dennis Kucinich is a Putinite. BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #36
Dennis Kucinich left the Democratic Party. He was RFK Jr's campaign manager. LeftInTX Apr 2024 #43
I was Against the War in Iraq.. We All were and Fuck GD Butchers in HAMAs Cha Apr 2024 #44
I opposed the Ira1 War edhopper Apr 2024 #46
I see people aren't reading your full post ismnotwasm Apr 2024 #48
Thanks for your post mdmc Apr 2024 #50
Yet another attempt to divide DU. edisdead Apr 2024 #52
War is never an answer LiberaBlueDem Apr 2024 #54
I am opposed to all war quaker bill Apr 2024 #55
r mdmc Apr 2024 #56
Like those things are even close to comparable. NT Patton French Apr 2024 #57
I disagree mdmc Apr 2024 #59
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