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In reply to the discussion: Meme on AOC: Biden doesn't stand for all the values I do. But I would rather fight for those things in a landscape [View all]
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Meme on AOC: Biden doesn't stand for all the values I do. But I would rather fight for those things in a landscape [View all]
applegrove
Apr 2024
OP
See post 90. Until I see actual real documentaion of that quote, I remain seriously unconvinced it is real.
Celerity
Apr 2024
#99
yes, if you look at multiple other posts I made, the 'quote' does NOT happen in any party of that entire 31 minutes
Celerity
Apr 2024
#174
Moderates aren't the ones saying they're not going to vote for biden bc they want more progressive policies
FlyingPiggy
Apr 2024
#7
I was hoping for more. But it's better than Nina Turner's "half a bowl of shit" comment.
Oopsie Daisy
Apr 2024
#16
Excellent. I feel like she's really grown into her role, and will be able to achieve great things.
Hekate
Apr 2024
#4
If Teh Oligarchs want a right-wing government, why did they support Biden? Doesn't make sense.
betsuni
Apr 2024
#155
Evidently three "oligarchs" forced voters to choose Biden in the primary and if only
betsuni
Apr 2024
#168
"Without support from some oligarchs no candidate on a national scale can be successful"
betsuni
Apr 2024
#179
Yep, I also think Progressive values are the core of Democratic party values....
Think. Again.
Apr 2024
#25
Yes they are. Goals are same, not about values/morals but reality of legislature.
betsuni
Apr 2024
#59
One thing you find about Democracy is that there is never a candidate that stands for everything you do.
patphil
Apr 2024
#9
AOC has not insulted Biden. She has not damned him with faint praise, either. What's happened, I think...
Hekate
Apr 2024
#46
That 'quote' has zero documenation that it is real. See my multiple posts on this thread on the subject.
Celerity
Apr 2024
#132
The quote is completely undocumented, and quite possibly invented by a person making a meme with
Celerity
Apr 2024
#163
Funny thing that. ALL of the major big ticket items in Biden's agenda that were blocked were blocked by
Celerity
Apr 2024
#80
ok, but that old purity test as an anti-progressive weapon and framing definitely has floated around here since I joined
Celerity
Apr 2024
#91
Fascinating to see the people who say the don't like aoc because she's a purist
unblock
Apr 2024
#52
The weaponization of the word "progressive" against the Democratic Party has done a lot
betsuni
Apr 2024
#182
I agree with her 100%. I don't always agree with Biden but nothing will keep me from
Autumn
Apr 2024
#49
She didn't go into that. Maybe she figures the fact that she supports him is enough.
Autumn
Apr 2024
#61
You're the one who indicated you agreed with her. What exactly are you agreeing to?
Oopsie Daisy
Apr 2024
#64
I didn't indicate it. I fucking said it. I know what values I have that Joe doesn't share
Autumn
Apr 2024
#66
None of your business what my values are, just I have no need to know about yours. nt
Autumn
Apr 2024
#76
It all comes back to: If you can't make it about policy because there's only a difference in strategy
betsuni
Apr 2024
#180
Can you li nk to the video or transcript you agree with? The Op video doesn't exist for me when tried to watch.
MerryBlooms
Apr 2024
#166
It's amazing. AOC comes out in supoprt of Biden, and we have DUers criticizing her for it.
Gore1FL
Apr 2024
#55
Pretending that it wasn't ham-handed won't make it eloquent and thoughtful.
Oopsie Daisy
Apr 2024
#89
The need to find fault with what she said is typical of the people who like to find fault with her
Gore1FL
Apr 2024
#106
No nits are being picked. It's perfectly reasonable to expect elected officials to *
Oopsie Daisy
Apr 2024
#114
And people defended Nina Turner's "half bowl of shit" statement about Biden *
Oopsie Daisy
Apr 2024
#123
I like AOC just fine. She knows her stuff and has grown. As to Biden, he has been wildly better than
PatrickforB
Apr 2024
#68
Huh? Are you saying that she's "code talking" to let people know she's anti-Israel?
Oopsie Daisy
Apr 2024
#92
Let's hope that all Progressive Democrats are as smart as AOC & get out and vote for Biden.
elocs
Apr 2024
#83
There is NO documentation info in that meme whatsoever. No time, date, or place she said it. Anyone could make it up.
Celerity
Apr 2024
#105
Unless the OP can provide documentation that proves that is not a fake quote, this OP should be taken down.
Celerity
Apr 2024
#113
yes, I already discussed that tweet in my last reply, and again, there is NO documentation in that tweet whatsoever
Celerity
Apr 2024
#116
Until proven otherwise it is a suspect and likely false quote. If she said policies, then zero controversies, BUT
Celerity
Apr 2024
#129
As I mentioned, it is a good paraphrase of her stance if not a direct quote....
Think. Again.
Apr 2024
#138
It is not presented as a paraphrase, and also it uses loaded language (values) that incites division as it paints
Celerity
Apr 2024
#139
it doesn't help, a random word used in entirely different setting is not proof in the slightest that the quote is real
Celerity
Apr 2024
#175
I am an idea person as well. But I also adhere to factual groundings and documentation for claims.
Celerity
Apr 2024
#177
Do not forget that intim the OP edited it, is was presented for hours as an exact quote.
Celerity
Apr 2024
#195
Yes, I watched the whole thing (as I have stated already) and the quote is NOT in it at all, she did not say those words
Celerity
Apr 2024
#130
The quote is very much unproven, and uses loaded language (the 'values' part) This thread is very divisive based off
Celerity
Apr 2024
#137
I think it is pretty problematic to take an entirely undocumented meme and then present is as a quote, a quote
Celerity
Apr 2024
#141
Does it go against DU terms of service? For sure we need to discuss and flush out how
applegrove
Apr 2024
#145
that is not germane at all to my (fully documented at this point) issues with the OP
Celerity
Apr 2024
#146
you have yet to show the slightest proof the quote is real, plus you are glossing over the loaded language
Celerity
Apr 2024
#150
No it is not, and the onus to prove the quote (which has divisive wording) is real is on you. You made the OP, not me.
Celerity
Apr 2024
#154