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ProgressiveProfessor

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19. Because the 1967 borders are as dead as Arafat

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:52 AM

Nov 2012

The reality is that Arafat and others turned down a better offer than they will get today. There was a window when it could have happened and it was pissed away by the PLO.

Have you considered a possible repeat of the 5 Day War? (I mean 5 not 6) I am sure you know what that means.

Back to the UN funding...it is something that the current administration cannot solve with a signing statement or executive order. With sequestration coming, the UN is already going to see a funding cut anyway.

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It's time for the US to STOP blocking Palestinian statehood at the UN [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2012 OP

I Agree, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2012 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Nov 2012 #2

It Might Be Better, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2012 #3

You're right...I've now deleted that post. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #4

Much Appreciated, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2012 #6

the 'beauty' opart of this is that there is precious little the US can do to stop it azurnoir Nov 2012 #12

DURec x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #5

Amen Stewland Nov 2012 #7

No Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #8

PLO headed by Fatah recognized Israel nearly 2 decades ago on 9/9/93 azurnoir Nov 2012 #10

Fatah recognized Israel in 1994. That put the recognition issue to rest. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #11

Hamas has not and still calls for the destruction of Israel ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #15

The way to keep Morsi from breaking ties is to stop screwing over the Pals. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #16

Morsi showed his true colors recently ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #20

If Israel's leaders really want to be pragmatic, they need to align themselves now Ken Burch Nov 2012 #21

"he too continues to treat the people of Gaza like trash." Scootaloo Nov 2012 #26

When Egypt ruled Gaza the residents were second class citizens at best ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #46

Morsi is not blowing up Palestinians. Israel is. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #47

Are you saying there is no responsibility attributable to the outside agitators? ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #50

I'm saying Israel is the one killing Palestinians Scootaloo Nov 2012 #52

In what amounts to a form of national style self defense ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #55

I thought Hamas was in control now? sellitman Nov 2012 #32

That didn't undo the PA recognition...it still stands. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #34

Go look at the Hamas Charter sellitman Nov 2012 #35

If the UN created a Palestinian state, Hamas wouldn't matter. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #37

You cannot disconnect Hamas from the equation by UN decree sellitman Nov 2012 #42

The charter is just words. It should go...but they'd never be able to carry it out anyway. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #44

I agree i think it would help force both sides to a true peace Arcanetrance Nov 2012 #9

Those people need rescued libodem Nov 2012 #13

I would remind everyone that under US law, such a status change would cause ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #14

Why should the Palestinians HAVE to negotiate with the Israeli government Ken Burch Nov 2012 #17

Because the 1967 borders are as dead as Arafat ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #19

Yep. You are correct. davidn3600 Nov 2012 #22

It's possible to have peace and the 1967 borders. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #25

You didn't answer the question. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #27

As long as Likud remains dominant inside Israel, there will be no peace process at all. Selatius Nov 2012 #18

All I know is I want all the killing to stop. Yesterday. ReRe Nov 2012 #23

Agreed. And nothing is more important than stopping the killing Ken Burch Nov 2012 #24

Then do you think the Palestinians will recognize Israel's statehood? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #28

It's certainly a hell of a lot more likely that they would than by making them Ken Burch Nov 2012 #29

1994 Scootaloo Nov 2012 #48

Perhaps recognizing Israel's right to exist might jump start the cause? sellitman Nov 2012 #30

Fatah did that in 1994. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #31

We both know Fatah isn't running Gaza sellitman Nov 2012 #33

It's not realistic to expect Hamas to recognize Israel BEFORE Ken Burch Nov 2012 #36

The Israeli government already gave back Gaza as a start. sellitman Nov 2012 #39

The charter is a side issue. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #40

Carry it out? sellitman Nov 2012 #43

They aren't "doing it." Ken Burch Nov 2012 #45

And it's time to stop calling that murderous, racist thug, by a nickname: "Bibi". chimpymustgo Nov 2012 #38

OK...good point. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #41

And thank you for posting this. K&R. chimpymustgo Nov 2012 #49

K&R ! patrice Nov 2012 #51

How exactly would this increase the likelihood of peace and security? (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #53

At least for the moment, it would keep both Hamas AND Likud from stopping the end of the war. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #54