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20. Sanders is obsessed with the past

Thu May 2, 2024, 03:09 PM

May 2024

and wanting to see everything based on that.

When things happening today are not the same. They have their own history and facts that deserve understanding .

Israel was attacked. Vietnam did not attack us. Biden isn't the leader of Israel.

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Bernie Sanders: 'This may be Biden's Vietnam' [View all] Mr. Sparkle May 2024 OP

If Trump is this generation's Nixon IronLionZion May 2024 #1

Nixon was a choirboy compared to trump. Turbineguy May 2024 #4

Trump is worse than Nixon in Nixon's most fevered dreams. PufPuf23 May 2024 #100

Why did I have the feeling Mad_Machine76 May 2024 #2

I hope our 2024 convention doesn't turn out like 1968 IronLionZion May 2024 #8

Me too Mad_Machine76 May 2024 #16

If people would actually use their fucking heads, it won't. paleotn May 2024 #88

It is stamped with US approval and authorship in the forms of money, weapons and diplomatic support. David__77 May 2024 #35

Still not comparable to Vietnam JMHO Mad_Machine76 May 2024 #36

Difficult truth right here hueymahl May 2024 #65

Yeah, Blinken is just like Kissinger /s. I admire you tenacity though. emulatorloo May 2024 #86

He can start by telling Sanders to STFU FakeNoose May 2024 #45

Sanders is over-the-top but there is some truth here. TomSlick May 2024 #71

thank you Skittles May 2024 #79

Bernie.. you're full of shit.. agingdem May 2024 #89

I personally think only a very small slice of the American public find the Israel-Hamas war a dealbreaker shrike3 May 2024 #3

It doesn;t have to be a big slice to make a difference. Happy Hoosier May 2024 #9

I continually hear all our tax money is going for wars womanofthehills May 2024 #50

Good way to meet girls. How's that for a reason? paleotn May 2024 #90

"I'm sure many of the kids protesting are out there for multiple reasons." shrike3 May 2024 #94

All is lost because the Youth are obsessed with TicToc JonAndKatePlusABird May 2024 #133

Well it is certainly the perfect storm. Hope22 May 2024 #73

He says Biden has alienated "a lot of the Democratic base" -- with U.S. foreign policy? No evidence of that. betsuni May 2024 #131

People are frequently confused as to who the base of the Party actually is. lapucelle May 2024 #144

Yes, yet they're exactly the ones some people think are the base, who think Democrats must be betsuni May 2024 #148

Are these college protestors part of the democratic base? pstokely May 2024 #160

Are US troops on the ground in Israel? Danmel May 2024 #5

Bibi is using US Weapons are and that's bad enough uponit7771 May 2024 #6

According to some people Mad_Machine76 May 2024 #18

They would be able to prosecute this war in the same way BannonsLiver May 2024 #27

I get that Mad_Machine76 May 2024 #30

I think probably because for them the entire thing is based entirely on emotion. BannonsLiver May 2024 #31

Why not? iemanja May 2024 #49

I'm meaning more in a political/diplomatic/security way Mad_Machine76 May 2024 #53

When we are sending them bunker busters that we know can take out a whole block womanofthehills May 2024 #54

And we could take them all away tomorrow and Israel would retain roughly 90 percent of its capability to fight this war. BannonsLiver May 2024 #25

Then we should stop sending weapons womanofthehills May 2024 #56

IMO this is a damned if you do Hope22 May 2024 #76

Lol good luck! BannonsLiver May 2024 #136

Taking away resources will make some difference at some time and that's good enough uponit7771 May 2024 #57

My guess is if there are parallels to the 60s we could be more in a "sending advisors to Vietnam" stage ColinC May 2024 #11

In order: sarisataka May 2024 #12

There is an U.S. base in Israel. former9thward May 2024 #34

Just realized this was done during the Trump administration walkingman May 2024 #55

That doesn't matter. DJ Synikus Makisimus May 2024 #46

The Man Just Can't Help Himself The Magistrate May 2024 #7

I can't even say what I really think of this remark NanaCat May 2024 #14

Thinking the same thing. Cha May 2024 #114

Me too. I can't wither the fucking shit storm if I say the wrong goddamn thing. SoFlaBro May 2024 #116

I love reading the posts.. Cha May 2024 #118

I must remember to fucking tread lightly as shit. SoFlaBro May 2024 #120

Yes Very Important! Cha May 2024 #121

Me too! And I'm really jealous because I can't. Dammit. betsuni May 2024 #124

LOL.. I had Cha May 2024 #125

I find this thread thrilling! betsuni May 2024 #134

Yeah it didn't Cha May 2024 #135

I will say this much... sheshe2 May 2024 #126

You can say that again! betsuni May 2024 #128

I will...often and will feeling. sheshe2 May 2024 #129

lol.. that says it All! Cha May 2024 #132

YyyyyyyyyyyyyyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuP! Mi tambien. AnrothElf May 2024 #139

One must ever ever ever say "you," or a person will likely have an unfortunate experience. betsuni May 2024 #150

+1 betsuni May 2024 #115

Concur. n/t yowzayowzayowza May 2024 #38

Unlike Johnson, Biden is seeing it through for better or worse ColinC May 2024 #10

There are reasons I didn't support or vote for him in the primary. LiberalFighter May 2024 #13

He never stood a chance in my book. AnrothElf May 2024 #140

No kidding Cha May 2024 #146

Oh good lord mcar May 2024 #15

This has got to be the dumbest thing Bernie Sanders has ever said NickB79 May 2024 #17

Oh..... LisaM May 2024 #21

So true. Give us a break, Bernie. No divisiveness pls. You've been on pretty good behavior... brush May 2024 #37

Post removed Post removed May 2024 #110

I got a fucking load of his old campaign manager's goddamn tweets and *yeesh* what a shitshow! SoFlaBro May 2024 #117

Vietnam was a war WE were actually in. BlueTsunami2018 May 2024 #19

If Trump wins, it disappears immediately. Just as the outrage about Obama and drones disappeared never to betsuni May 2024 #122

Sanders is obsessed with the past JI7 May 2024 #20

He's not the only one obsessed with his past BannonsLiver May 2024 #28

Fuck yes... THIS! AnrothElf May 2024 #141

The Protesters are NOT right to Harass Cha May 2024 #22

Bernies comment are not helpful...easy to criticize. Demsrule86 May 2024 #39

Yes, Easy to Cha May 2024 #103

"Pres Biden is Going to win in spite of all these attempts to put this on Pres Biden." LenaBaby61 May 2024 #102

Mahalo, LenaBaby!! Cha May 2024 #104

Post removed Post removed May 2024 #23

There are no dead Americans in Gaza. shrike3 May 2024 #29

There's at least one American hostage. Cha May 2024 #61

Here's my question: LauraInLA May 2024 #32

No, Hell all the protests didn't work in the 60's and 70's...boomer biggest generation ever.. Demsrule86 May 2024 #33

Come on, Bernie is not correct. This is not 1968, we are not sending draftees to fight in VM. brush May 2024 #43

Vietnam dragged on for years and we were actively involved. LisaM May 2024 #24

+1 onenote May 2024 #26

You are not alone. DFW May 2024 #44

Cutting off resources is a way bigger message than words, says much more uponit7771 May 2024 #58

7 months and organized protests were immediate, the Biden administration is clearly doing all it can to betsuni May 2024 #127

Thank goodness he never got close to being President. nt LexVegas May 2024 #40

Of course Bernie is Correct. Now what do we do about it? OutNow May 2024 #41

You must be the oldest person on DU sarisataka May 2024 #42

LOL!!! Coventina May 2024 #48

and complete off track with the comparison in so many ways. JohnSJ May 2024 #81

Oh please. Bernie is not correct. It's not 1968... brush May 2024 #47

Horse shit! paleotn May 2024 #91

No, Sanders is Wrong.. It's Not Pres Biden's "Vietnam Moment".. So Wrong. Cha May 2024 #113

bernie sander's may be this election's michael moore.... unblock May 2024 #51

Huh? Mike Nelson May 2024 #52

That was a good in-depth interview which touched on many bases Uncle Joe May 2024 #59

Not until the draft is reinstituted. NT mahatmakanejeeves May 2024 #60

Is hoping to get some favor for Bobby Jr? Haggard Celine May 2024 #62

The border is a bigger problem than Gaza. Although Michigan IS in danger. oldsoftie May 2024 #63

Agreed about the right to protest mvd May 2024 #64

Ya know that's Democracy.......... Lovie777 May 2024 #66

I love Bernie, but for God's sake. Irish_Dem May 2024 #67

There are some potential similarities iemanja May 2024 #70

Well it couldn't be worse than 2016, where Cornell West left the convention and endorsed Jill Stein, David Sirota, JohnSJ May 2024 #85

I agree. nt iemanja May 2024 #96

Not helpful from Bernie. Bibi is responsible Hassler May 2024 #68

Just NO Sanders. This is NOT Cha May 2024 #69

Spot on Cha!! blue-wave May 2024 #74

Mahalo blue-wave!🕯️🕊️💙🌊🇺🇸 Cha May 2024 #78

I call bullshit blue-wave May 2024 #72

Whoever's fault this is wryter2000 May 2024 #82

Post removed Post removed May 2024 #75

Sorry, Bernie. The comparison isn't close. A shame you'd make a false equivalence statement. ancianita May 2024 #77

Go away Sanders. The comparisons is not valid, and your bullshit assessment doesn't make so. In fact it is offensive. JohnSJ May 2024 #80

Not the time, Bernie. Not the time. Nt The Unmitigated Gall May 2024 #83

No, it isn't, for many reasons, Ocelot II May 2024 #84

Bernie......shut the fuck up. paleotn May 2024 #87

Yep ... FakeNoose May 2024 #92

Did my son miss his draft notice? Freethinker65 May 2024 #93

My number was 152 JohnSJ May 2024 #97

Israel enid602 May 2024 #95

Thousands marching against Netanyahoo every week in Israel. Massive marches bigger than these university occupations AnrothElf May 2024 #143

Protests enid602 May 2024 #154

That's what I just said. Thousands protesting Netanyahoo in Israel. More than the US. AnrothElf May 2024 #155

Protesters enid602 May 2024 #156

1 Israeli protester protesting Netanyahoo in Israel is worth 10,000 self-entitled college kids. AnrothElf May 2024 #157

Bernie... myohmy2 May 2024 #98

Nope honest.abe May 2024 #99

Sorry Bernie, not within miles of being like Nam. Trust me. NoMoreRepugs May 2024 #101

This is not the least bit helpful. Patton French May 2024 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF May 2024 #106

Bernie, if you have nothing helpful to say....... RandySF May 2024 #107

Seriously! There was another thread earlier today about Nixie May 2024 #123

Nope. Sorry. Blue Idaho May 2024 #108

Does he *ever* know when to just STFU? relayerbob May 2024 #109

Hopefully Sanders gets voted right the fuck out of office TexasDem69 May 2024 #111

Keep Hoping. OutNow May 2024 #137

give me a fucking break MistakenLamb May 2024 #112

It isn't "Biden's Vietnam"... DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #119

"other people are making this reference" "[Biden's] alienated not only young people but a lot of the Democratic base betsuni May 2024 #130

Damn.. this so reminds me of Cha May 2024 #138

I've changed my opinion over the last few days and I agree with bernie Tribetime May 2024 #142

Quothe Yeats... AnrothElf May 2024 #145

I've been rereading Obama's "A Promised Land" and he quotes the poem: betsuni May 2024 #152

"Radicals must be resilient and sensitive enough to the process of action and reaction to avoid being trapped betsuni May 2024 #147

REC TY Cha May 2024 #149

Bullshit Bernie, pwb May 2024 #151

Ug. You're not helping, Bernie. SunSeeker May 2024 #153

Thank God For Bernie! LiberaBlueDem May 2024 #158

Except it's not. The American president could end the Vietnam war with the stroke of a pen. Vinca May 2024 #159