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Kid Berwyn

(22,614 posts)
77. Another BIG STORY the Mainstream Media Ignored...
Thu May 16, 2024, 04:01 PM
May 2024
The Specter of 2016

McGonigal, Trump, and the Truth about America


Timothy Snyder
January 26, 2023

We are on the edge of a spy scandal with major implications for how we understand the Trump administration, our national security, and ourselves.

On 23 January, we learned that a former FBI special agent, Charles McGonigal, was arrested on charges involving taking money to serve foreign interests. One accusation is that in 2017 he took $225,000 from a foreign actor while in charge of counterintelligence at the FBI's New York office. Another charge is that McGonigal took money from Oleg Deripaska, a sanctioned Russian oligarch, after McGonigal’s 2018 retirement from the FBI. Deripaska, a hugely wealthy metals tycoon close to the Kremlin, "Putin's favorite industrialist," was a figure in a Russian influence operation that McGonigal had investigated in 2016. Deripaska has been under American sanctions since 2018. Deripaska is also the former employer, and the creditor, of Trump's 2016 campaign manager, Paul Manafort.

The reporting on this so far seems to miss the larger implications. One of them is that Trump’s historical position looks far cloudier. In 2016, Trump's campaign manager (Manafort) was a former employee of a Russian oligarch (Deripaska), and owed money to that same Russian oligarch. And the FBI special agent (McGonigal) who was charged with investigating the Trump campaign's Russian connections then went to work (according to the indictment) for that very same Russian oligarch (Deripaska). This is obviously very bad for Trump personally. But it is also very bad for FBI New York, for the FBI generally, and for the United States of America.

Another is that we must revisit the Russian influence operation on Trump’s behalf in 2016, and the strangely weak American response. Moscow’s goal was to move minds and institutions such that Hillary Clinton would lose and Donald Trump would win. We might like to think that any FBI special agent would resist, oppose, or at least be immune to such an operation. Now we are reliably informed that a trusted FBI actor, one who was responsible for dealing with just this sort of operation, was corrupt. And again, the issue is not just the particular person. If someone as important as McGonigal could take money from foreigners while on the job at FBI New York, and then go to work for a sanctioned Russian oligarch he was once investigating, what is at stake, at a bare minimum, is the culture of the FBI's New York office. The larger issue is the health of our national discussions of politics and the integrity of our election process.

For me personally, McGonigal's arrest brought back an unsettling memory. In 2016, McGonigal was in charge of cyber counter-intelligence for the FBI, and was put in charge of counterintelligence at the FBI's New York office. That April, I broke the story of the connection between Trump's campaign and Putin's regime, on the basis of Russian open sources. At the time, almost no one wanted to take this connection seriously. American journalists wanted an American source, but the people who had experienced similar Russian operations were in Russia, Ukraine, or Estonia. Too few people took Trump seriously; too few people took Russia seriously; too few people took cyber seriously; the Venn diagram overlap of people who took all three seriously felt very small. Yet there was also specific, nagging worry that my own country was not only unprepared, but something worse. After I wrote that piece and another, I heard intimations that something was odd about the FBI office in New York. This was no secret at the time. One did not need to be close to such matters to get that drift. And given that FBI New York was the office dealing with cyber counterintelligence, this was worrying.

The reason I was thinking about Trump and Putin back in 2016 was a pattern that I had noticed in eastern Europe, which is my area of expertise. Between 2010 and 2013, Russia sought to control Ukraine using the same methods which were on display in 2016 in its influence operation in the United States: social media, money, and a pliable candidate for head of state. When that failed, Russia had invaded Ukraine, under the cover of some very successful influence operations. (If you find that you do not remember the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2014, it is very possibly because you were caught in the froth of Russian propaganda, spread through the internet, targeted to vulnerabilities.) The success of that propaganda encouraged Russia to intervene in the United States, using the same methods and institutions. This is what I was working on in 2016, when a similar operation was clearly underway in the United States.

Continues…

https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-specter-of-2016

By Jove, I think you’ve got it! Putin put Trump in power and some in the national security establishment were corrupted and lied about it. And the story is known by a number of MSNBC viewers, followers of Dr. Snyder, and readers on DU. If our mainstream news media were honest, every citizen (and voter) would already know.

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He's going to lose the election so it'd be moot. jimfields33 May 2024 #1
Agree. But, he'd lose by more if the News Media did their job. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #2
That's true. They should at least look into it. jimfields33 May 2024 #3
I'd say they fear a landslide and want 50/50 despite the repercussions. GreenWave May 2024 #58
What is the opposite of moot? Jakes Progress May 2024 #31
Debatable. NanaCat May 2024 #70
Sounds like there are some actual journalists... and Media Matters isn't one of them FBaggins May 2024 #4
Wrong. It's a major story the mainstream media buried. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #6
Mainstream media didn't bury it as you've been told multiple times AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #40
Washington Post broke the story. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #44
The Washington Post isn't mainstream media? AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #46
Yes, the Washington Post is mainstream. But the story IS NOT. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #47
That makes no sense AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #49
No. You don't bother to read/report what the OP states. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #52
So... AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #57
Nothing but smears. LOL. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #84
Anything to avoid saying that the Washington Post is mainstream media AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #85
So, where's the coverage? Kid Berwyn May 2024 #91
Oh, yeah, it only counts if you can see Corporate McPravda's spin AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author mahatmakanejeeves May 2024 #56
It is neither a major story - nor was it buried FBaggins May 2024 #54
So don't report it as quid pro quo but do report it! CrispyQ May 2024 #9
Trump wants the Fossil Fuel Industry to keep "The Gravy Train" of the status quo running ... Botany May 2024 #5
Every last drop must be monetized. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #8
And the disinformation is from domestic fossil fuel industries too. Botany May 2024 #11
Oil companies do a lot of advertising on the corporate media SocialDemocrat61 May 2024 #7
Absolute Badda-Bingo! Kid Berwyn May 2024 #10
Maybe it's because the mainstream media is more aligned with big oil than it is with progressive politics? jalan48 May 2024 #12
I remember a pol who said: "Corporations are people, too, my friend." Kid Berwyn May 2024 #16
+ 1000 jalan48 May 2024 #18
Great reading about corporate personhood on this site. CrispyQ May 2024 #23
Nah, its'because the OP doesn't read newspapers or the Internet AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #41
Nice smear. I worked as a staff writer/reporter for a daily newspaper. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #48
I was a reporter at one of the largest papers in the country AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #62
You can report it on page 1 or page 54. hay rick May 2024 #13
MSNBC appears to be the only cable news outlet that tried. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #20
The Truth is now just a Radical Left Wing Trope. dchill May 2024 #14
That really, really bums me out. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #21
What? liberalgunwilltravel May 2024 #15
I should have been clearer -- mainstream television and cable. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #24
Apparently newspapers don't count AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #27
But I don't want to believe that, so it's not true. NT mahatmakanejeeves May 2024 #28
Dozens of articles via Google. So what? Kid Berwyn May 2024 #37
You're the one who said mainstream media isn't covering it AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #38
Because the story is not getting the coverage it merits. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #50
"Mainstream Media Refused to Report Trump's Bombshell Quid Pro Quo Offer to Big Oil Execs" AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #53
Hillary Clinton seconded Media Matters. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #101
Which doesn't change the fact that the story was widely reported AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #102
So show the reportage from NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN or Fox. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #103
You keep crying for your Corporate McPravda to report this AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #105
So you have nothing, but you can't admit that. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #106
You're the one with the reading comprehension issues AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #108
Resorting to insults shows you don't have an argument. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #110
I was being helpful and you accuse me of insulting you? AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #111
I posted the story you mentioned. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #113
The world doesn't revolve around you AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #119
Such wisdom. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #120
We're talking about you complaining that mainstream media isn't covering a story AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #121
It's more than you've brought to the discussion. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #122
You mean apart from facts that disprove your argument? AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #124
Ad hominem attacks are a propaganda technique. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #126
Thank you for your perseverance. Think. Again. May 2024 #135
Apparently the OP can't read AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #42
Media Matters published it. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #114
Media Matters started this post? AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #115
Such wit serves to divert attention. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #117
Why should I? AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #118
So where is the coverage in the mainstream media? Kid Berwyn May 2024 #128
That link doesn't say anything about Trump, oil policy or $1B dollars AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #130
It shows what makes up Corporate McPravda. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #133
Why wouldn't you put that in your link name? AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #137
What's odd is your obsession with putting me down. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #138
This discussion is about Trump offering big oil something? AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #141
It's about MAGA Maggie publicizing Pisswig von Putin. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #144
Yet there is no mention of Maggie Haberman in your post AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #145
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding BoRaGard May 2024 #17
Tim-ber! Kid Berwyn May 2024 #36
They're all part of the same money and power ecosystem John Shaft May 2024 #19
Corporate McPravda is bent by design. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #73
Man, you're upset that something you call "Corporate McPravda" isn't reporting this story? AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #86
Do you think the press has covered Biden fairly? Kid Berwyn May 2024 #89
I'm not sure what that has to do with this AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #90
If you don't know now, then you'll never know. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #94
And those are the people you want covering Trump AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #95
Did anybody get a recording of TSF saying that? KS Toronado May 2024 #22
Still searching. Not on ABCNNBCBSFauxNoise. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #75
Thanks for searching, I'm kinda busy today KS Toronado May 2024 #79
Republican media outlet owners do shit like this. live love laugh May 2024 #25
Right Wing Built the Mass Media Long Ago to Manipulate the Masses Kid Berwyn May 2024 #82
The story was on the front page of the Washington Post. mahatmakanejeeves May 2024 #26
Serious question: So who do you know, besides on DU, who knows about this story? Kid Berwyn May 2024 #32
Now you're posting something that dramatically undermines your position as if it supports it? mathematic May 2024 #69
That could hurt the horse...and they need two horses underpants May 2024 #29
Many Americans really do think in terms of sports. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #33
This is a great article by Media Matters LetMyPeopleVote May 2024 #30
Thank you. It really is. What the Princeton professor said... Kid Berwyn May 2024 #34
"But... but... reporting on Trump's crimes and corruption could... impact the election!!1!11" Beartracks May 2024 #35
Another BIG STORY the Mainstream Media Ignored... Kid Berwyn May 2024 #77
This is more than quid pro quo - bribery facilitated by Trump waterwatcher123 May 2024 #39
Absolutely agree. The Catch is 6 of 9. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #78
As usual, a simple Google search demonstrates that you're wrong. MineralMan May 2024 #43
Google is great. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #45
Please show us where television is the only "mainstream media" AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #51
Not the point, is it? Kid Berwyn May 2024 #55
Why should I watch a 30-second soundbite on ABC AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #59
So. Nothing to add except personal attacks? Kid Berwyn May 2024 #61
Again, I'm not the one who posted a blatantly false title AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #63
So, you have nothing to back up your assertion. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #65
But they aren't! AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #68
The fact NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN and FOX have not broadcast the story to the nation. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #83
I knew about it from posts on social media AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #87
So where's the coverage? Kid Berwyn May 2024 #88
Hur Dur newspapers aren't mainstream media!!!! AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #92
So where is the coverage? Kid Berwyn May 2024 #123
Did you forget that you posted an article from The Guardian? AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author John Shaft May 2024 #74
No, thanks. You misstated the issue. MineralMan May 2024 #60
Right. So you have nothing to back up your assertion. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #66
I have heard of this many times. pwb May 2024 #80
Hillary Clinton: "Be the Media" Kid Berwyn May 2024 #100
"Subsequently, Reuters, The New York Times, Politico, and The Atlantic, among other digital news sites, covered....." brooklynite May 2024 #64
So? Kid Berwyn May 2024 #67
Every major media outlet reported it. TwilightZone May 2024 #71
Please show where ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN or Fox News reported the story. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #72
Big oil is a big advertiser nakocal May 2024 #76
The Guardian: Trump Big Oil Giveaways Total $110 Billion Kid Berwyn May 2024 #97
What's this? Reporting from mainstream media on the story? AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #107
It's an important story. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #109
Hi! You must not have read the link you shared... AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #112
Here you go. pwb May 2024 #81
One of those has almost 400,000 views. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #98
Great OP thanks for sharing this and withstanding the backlash of media supporters. live love laugh May 2024 #96
Thank you! Strange days have tracked us down. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #99
That's because they were occupied covering vapor2 May 2024 #104
Apprentices in Search of Veepdom Kid Berwyn May 2024 #116
Hillary Clinton is again right on point LetMyPeopleVote May 2024 #125
"A Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" is how Ms. Clinton phrased the situation. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #132
You know what the funniest part of this is? AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #129
The inordinate amount of time you spend on it. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #139
With accuracy? I suppose AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #140
Gee. A smear artist. Here's what this post is REALLY about. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #143
It was not reported because it pales in comparison Zambero May 2024 #131
Pee-resident Trump's staggering record of uncharged crimes Kid Berwyn May 2024 #134
Kick, and rec, and thank you for posting this. Think. Again. May 2024 #136
Thank you! Keeping our Democracy is THE issue facing the nation. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #142
You don't remember any coverage on radio... AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #146
Who saw that on the evening news? Kid Berwyn May 2024 #147
Bookmarking - great graphic liberalla Jul 2024 #148
Shocked if anyone has seen this covered on ABCNNBCBSFoxNutzwerken. Kid Berwyn Jul 2024 #149
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