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Nixie

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93. I denounce terrorism. The anti-Israel bias is your

Fri May 24, 2024, 07:38 PM

May 2024

focus, it seems.

The "ethnic cleansing" narrative is another obvious anti-Israel bias. It's also an adopted narrative that doesn't take into account that Hamas is actively trying to get kill all Israelis. That goal is actual and stated ethnic cleansing.

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Palestinian children killed in Israeli airstrike on Gaza City school [View all] David__77 May 2024 OP

K&R Think. Again. May 2024 #1

The war crimes continue and the perpetrators remain free. Ping Tung May 2024 #2

Including the Hamas leaders in Qatar NoRethugFriends May 2024 #4

Why do this? Why not blame the IDF and Bibi's government JUST ONCE obamanut2012 May 2024 #5

I do and have blamed them NoRethugFriends May 2024 #7

That's rich sarisataka May 2024 #8

lol okay obamanut2012 May 2024 #52

I never claimed you said anything sarisataka May 2024 #63

Lol obamanut2012 May 2024 #195

Interesting reply to the plight of the hostages sarisataka May 2024 #196

+1 sheshe2 May 2024 #76

I believe the word "including" DOES blame them. yagotme May 2024 #246

Fine. I agree with bringing all war criminals to trial. Ping Tung May 2024 #6

Why not? Butterflylady May 2024 #206

we can arrest Netanyahu the second he touches American soil TomDaisy May 2024 #25

Never happen. Mr.Bill May 2024 #33

Netanyahu is a butcher and a war criminal who must be brought to justice TomDaisy May 2024 #40

And he won't Polybius May 2024 #216

"We'll see" said the Zen master. TomDaisy May 2024 #218

Damn Hamas. They are ruthless. jimfields33 May 2024 #39

Israeli will never get rid of Hamas womanofthehills May 2024 #72

That is actually an important point. David__77 May 2024 #133

Could you clarify what you are expecting? NoRethugFriends May 2024 #211

Justifying anything Israel does by blaming Hamas iemanja May 2024 #224

Let's do some word swapping: yagotme May 2024 #255

Non sequitur iemanja May 2024 #263

+1 Celerity May 2024 #264

I'm not saying YOU were justifying Hamas' actions in your post. yagotme May 2024 #266

Effin evil malaise May 2024 #3

Not evil. War with a terrorist regime. elias7 May 2024 #9

How many kids are you cool with bombing just to get those tunnels? ExciteBike66 May 2024 #12

I suspect the answer is Bettie May 2024 #13

No one can ever give an actual answer. ExciteBike66 May 2024 #14

Look, we are fellow Democrats, can we be civil? elias7 May 2024 #69

It depends. How many terrorists are you cool with hiding behind their backs? Beastly Boy May 2024 #17

So when Hamas goes to SA or Iran you cool with starting WW3 to kill them there too? flying_wahini May 2024 #20

Keep digging. Beastly Boy May 2024 #38

And here you are saying it is ok to attack schools, hospitals and mosques. Eko May 2024 #95

I am saying no such thing. But you keep digging deeper Beastly Boy May 2024 #98

The ends do ***NOT*** justify the means in this context, we need to keep our humanity no matter the level of anger uponit7771 May 2024 #232

The question is what you consider the ends and the means. Beastly Boy May 2024 #238

Tight filtering, separation and clearing of guerilla forces to reduce human shields has been done with much more ... uponit7771 May 2024 #240

Any examples that you can cite in support of your thesis? Beastly Boy May 2024 #241

Feluchia Iraq for instance US military filtered out all military age fighting uponit7771 May 2024 #247

How many Israeli civilians are you ok with Hamas killing with their rockets? SunSeeker May 2024 #49

I personally am not "cool" with any of it, and I don't need to think about it. elias7 May 2024 #67

+1 betsuni May 2024 #79

There will be no answer JustAnotherGen May 2024 #87

US separated terrorist from citizens while remaining human in Felucia, same could've happened in GAZA but IDF decided uponit7771 May 2024 #233

Zero. Dead children turns my fucking stomach. Hamas can't wait to position children under any potential targets. SoFlaBro May 2024 #111

Like refugee camps? ForgoTheConsequence May 2024 #202

When someone refers to Hamas as "freedom fighters just like Mandela" BannonsLiver May 2024 #23

+1 betsuni May 2024 #66

Yes, people keep telling us it's a war and people die in wars, even innocent civilians. Eko May 2024 #94

Just to be absolutely clear: thucythucy May 2024 #155

Ok. Eko May 2024 #166

We have international laws now because of the bombing and the camps obamanut2012 May 2024 #197

Yes. Eko May 2024 #201

It was widely recognized even before WWII that the bombing of civilian targets thucythucy May 2024 #248

+1, people act like HAMAS guerilla fighting doesn't have a solution to it without murdering everything moving. It does, uponit7771 May 2024 #234

Um, there was quite a lot of criticism of the US attacks on Fallujah. thucythucy May 2024 #251

Thank you for your response to my questions. thucythucy May 2024 #253

Here you go. Eko May 2024 #262

I agree with your assessment. David__77 May 2024 #10

Musta been a tunnel somewhere! ExciteBike66 May 2024 #11

The tunnels have been used since the 60s to move goods/medicines to Palestine during many Israeli blockaids ... marble falls May 2024 #30

Video literally interviewing hamas official Mountainguy May 2024 #15

This is an NBC News report. David__77 May 2024 #16

And? Mountainguy May 2024 #71

Bullshit. AloeVera May 2024 #75

lmao Mountainguy May 2024 #105

So in your view, those children didn't die or writhe in agony on that hospital floor? AloeVera May 2024 #123

I dont think i'll take Hamas word for how they got there Mountainguy May 2024 #125

Laughing at people dying...... Butterflylady May 2024 #207

Oh please Mountainguy May 2024 #222

If they weren't before, they will be now. haele May 2024 #243

Why are there any kids in Gaza City? They were supposed to have evacuated months ago. SunSeeker May 2024 #18

Does that justify Israel blowing them up? David__77 May 2024 #19

that seems to be the implication - your face got in the way of my bullets! TomDaisy May 2024 #24

Hamas put those kids' faces in the way of bullets. nt SunSeeker May 2024 #58

Why can't you answer my fucking question? Why deflect with a nonsensical assertion? SunSeeker May 2024 #56

and where are they supposed to go - the Four Seasons? TomDaisy May 2024 #22

Israel has kept people trapped in the giant war zone. David__77 May 2024 #26

and the open-air prison before that, ghetto-style TomDaisy May 2024 #29

It was HAMAS that turned it into a war zone. And Egypt and Jordan trapped them in. SunSeeker May 2024 #74

Israel is responsible for the wellbeing of the non-combatants of Gaza. David__77 May 2024 #80

Hamas is the governing authority of Gaza. They are responsible for what is happening to their people. SunSeeker May 2024 #109

The UN and international law disagrees. David__77 May 2024 #134

You sent me a piece on what the AC thinks constitutes occupation, not what constitutes the government. SunSeeker May 2024 #144

It didn't start on 10-7 questionseverything May 2024 #205

No, "it" didn't start on 10-7. yagotme May 2024 #249

True, IDF didn't have to react with the worst solution possible to fight HAMAS either... that was IDF choice uponit7771 May 2024 #235

If you think what IDF is doing is "the worst possible choice," you haven't heard the Republicans. SunSeeker May 2024 #258

There are several Four Seasons in Gaza. AloeVera May 2024 #45

There are numerous refugee camps set up in the south and outside Gaza City. SunSeeker May 2024 #60

This! A thousand times this. These questions are starting Nixie May 2024 #68

Why should people in Gaza be forced out of their own country? David__77 May 2024 #82

We were commenting about Egypt and Jordan. Nixie May 2024 #85

Yes, I understand that some Israeli authorities have advocated to remove Gaza people to other countries. David__77 May 2024 #86

Which is where the anti-Israel bias is so evident. Nixie May 2024 #88

Do you understand what ethnic cleansing is? AloeVera May 2024 #90

Do you understand what terrorists are? Nixie May 2024 #91

So you don't acknowledge the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. AloeVera May 2024 #92

I denounce terrorism. The anti-Israel bias is your Nixie May 2024 #93

It's a 76-year narrative. AloeVera May 2024 #100

This subthread was about Egypt protecting its borders. Nixie May 2024 #103

I'll make it clearer. AloeVera May 2024 #117

I'll make it clearer. AloeVera May 2024 #118

That is purely another anti-Israel bias. That is what is clear. Nixie May 2024 #119

So do you believe Israel will let them return? AloeVera May 2024 #120

There goes your concern about civilians right out Nixie May 2024 #121

I guess the answer is no. AloeVera May 2024 #122

Thanks for confirming that your anti-Israel bias is what you "happen to believe" Nixie May 2024 #124

Never mind. Maybe it'll come to you. N/T. AloeVera May 2024 #127

The anti-Israel narratives are very simple and easy Nixie May 2024 #129

That's a pretty rich word salad you got here Beastly Boy May 2024 #112

Here's an article on why Egypt destroyed the tunnels to Gaza. It was about terrorism. Nixie May 2024 #97

I'm sorry but...and? AloeVera May 2024 #99

But terrorists. Nixie May 2024 #104

These comments are about dead children iemanja May 2024 #225

Of course, the terrorist who are mostly men can be separated WITHOUT mass killing of civilians IDF chose not to. uponit7771 May 2024 #236

OK, let's try it your way. yagotme May 2024 #250

"My way" has already been tried on other guerilla forces and worked better than bombing hospitals and starving people uponit7771 May 2024 #252

Out of curiosity, where is Felucia? yagotme May 2024 #254

If they mean Fallujah, that battle killed 700 civilians. Hardly a shining example of sparing noncombatants. SunSeeker May 2024 #259

Like I said, I looked it up. yagotme May 2024 #260

I'm pretty sure they mean Fallujah, but their assertion is wrong, either way. SunSeeker May 2024 #261

Why doesnt Israel? Eko May 2024 #96

Israel already has 2 million Palestinians living in Israel. SunSeeker May 2024 #107

Since Egypt is not creating this problem Eko May 2024 #148

Egypt is RIGHT NEXT DOOR. SunSeeker May 2024 #149

Israel is RIGHT NEXT DOOR Eko May 2024 #150

Israel took in 2 million Palestinians. How many has Egypt taken in? SunSeeker May 2024 #160

How many Palestinian refugees have they taken in from this conflict? 0. Eko May 2024 #164

Wow, so you forgive Egypt not letting in Gazan women & children because they'll start a war with Israel? SunSeeker May 2024 #167

I never, ever discount women and children. Eko May 2024 #168

Suggesting Gazan women and children will shoot rockets into Israel from Egypt is not "empowering" them. SunSeeker May 2024 #169

If you think women cant fight and children wont grow up then fine. Eko May 2024 #177

Wow, so let these women and children risk death rather than put Egypt in a "tough place"? SunSeeker May 2024 #181

Its amazing how you just let Israel stay out of the conversation as far as who can take care of them. Eko May 2024 #182

It's amazing that you care more about punishing Israel than saving these women and children. nt SunSeeker May 2024 #183

Exactly how do I want to punish Israel? Eko May 2024 #184

You want to blame Israel for everything and stop all support for Israel. nt SunSeeker May 2024 #185

Lol. Eko May 2024 #186

How does Israel destroy Hamas without civilian deaths if these women and children stay in Gaza as human shields? SunSeeker May 2024 #187

That does not give me a lolz, and I grow tiresome of conversations where people Eko May 2024 #188

So you want Israel to take in people you say will go to war with them? SunSeeker May 2024 #189

Jeeze, do you even read what I said? Eko May 2024 #190

Yes, I do, that is why what you're asking doesn't make sense. SunSeeker May 2024 #191

Did Israel create a security force around the zone? Eko May 2024 #192

Yes, they did. It wasn't enough to keep Hamas from infiltrating the zones. SunSeeker May 2024 #193

Really? That's interesting. Eko May 2024 #200

Rafah for one. But Hamas still established a base there. SunSeeker May 2024 #210

They did nothing more than tell people to go there. Eko May 2024 #212

Rafah is encircled by military. It has more security than most places in Gaza. SunSeeker May 2024 #213

I could not find where they did that. Eko May 2024 #214

Also, if it has more security than most places in Gaza then how was Hamas in there? Eko May 2024 #215

Because the civilians let Hamas hide among them. SunSeeker May 2024 #217

You are correct that it was outside of the zones. Eko May 2024 #220

Like US did in Felucia, staggered blockade then separate all men of fighting age in one group then womenchildren in .. uponit7771 May 2024 #237

315,190 civilians were directly killed in our war with Iraq. Hardly a good example to follow. SunSeeker May 2024 #257

When did Israel ever "take in" any Palestinians? Crunchy Frog May 2024 #208

Israel has taken in a lot more Palestinians than Egypt ever did. SunSeeker May 2024 #209

So, first you claim they took in 2 million, Crunchy Frog May 2024 #219

There ARE 2 million Palestinians in Israel. They make up 21% of the Israeli population. SunSeeker May 2024 #221

They're descended from the minority of Palestinians Crunchy Frog May 2024 #223

They are immigrants and descendants. SunSeeker May 2024 #230

I'm sure that explains why 700,000 were ethnically cleansed. Crunchy Frog May 2024 #231

why should they be forced to solve a problem Israel is causing???? TomDaisy May 2024 #102

It is a problem HAMAS caused. Israel has a right to destroy Hamas, just like we had a right to destroy Al Qaeda. nt SunSeeker May 2024 #106

so if Israel is destroying Hamas, why do the civilians need to go to Egypt TomDaisy May 2024 #110

Because Hamas is using civilians as human shields. nt SunSeeker May 2024 #113

So Israel is killing more than Hamas TomDaisy May 2024 #114

The civilian deaths are the result of Hamas using them as human shields. nt SunSeeker May 2024 #115

You won't win. And the needle threading must allow some to sleep better at night. I'll never understand it. Nanjeanne May 2024 #143

IDF has told them that going south was for refuge. It's only a cover for concentrating them and putting them into ... marble falls May 2024 #32

It is Hamas who moved with them to the south and turned Rafah into their base of operations. SunSeeker May 2024 #64

Gosh, those darn children not being proactive and leaving obamanut2012 May 2024 #59

So you absolve Hamas from using these kids as human shields? SunSeeker May 2024 #62

Please show me where I said that obamanut2012 May 2024 #244

No, I'm asking you a question. Care to answer it? nt SunSeeker May 2024 #256

So easy, always to Blame Hamas for every ill caused by Israel. AloeVera May 2024 #89

Well, considering the facts, yes, it is easy to blame Hamas. SunSeeker May 2024 #108

Ah, a Nakba-denier. AloeVera May 2024 #116

What, nothing more to say about Hamas trying to stop civilians from leaving Gaza City? Beastly Boy May 2024 #130

I answered that already in #89. It was not responded to. AloeVera May 2024 #131

From your response #89: Beastly Boy May 2024 #137

Trying to absolve Israel of responsibility is the essence of the human shield narrative. AloeVera May 2024 #140

I condemn Hamas hiding under schools and hospitals, causing civilian casualties in a war they started. nt SunSeeker May 2024 #146

Trying to absolve Hamas of responsibility is the essence of human shield denialism. Beastly Boy May 2024 #154

I condemn... AloeVera May 2024 #171

It seems there is never any "if" sarisataka May 2024 #174

You can condemn anything you wish regardless of the evidence. Beastly Boy May 2024 #176

It's enough. AloeVera May 2024 #179

In this case, expect more debates. Beastly Boy May 2024 #180

That poster condemns Israel for everything ever done Nixie May 2024 #173

The poster has not absolved Hamas for anything -- these accusations are scurrilous and untrue obamanut2012 May 2024 #245

LOL. When did you start using the Arab term Nakba, AloeVera? SunSeeker May 2024 #147

When I took the blinders off that us Westerners wear on Israel's history. AloeVera May 2024 #153

Now "hasbara" has entered your lexicon! SunSeeker May 2024 #156

Of course it should! AloeVera May 2024 #158

Yes, I believe in a 2 state solution, UNLIKE Hamas, SJP and most Palestinians. SunSeeker May 2024 #162

That's something to fear for sure. AloeVera May 2024 #163

No, seeing so many progressives being Hamas terrorist apologists will push independents to Trump. SunSeeker May 2024 #165

Just cant give up the "terrorist apologist" smear? AloeVera May 2024 #170

It's not a smear, it's the truth. The SJP, who is coordinating the campus protests, is pro Hamas. SunSeeker May 2024 #175

It is a United Nations term. David__77 May 2024 #132

No, as your link says, it's an ARAB term referring to the creation of Israel as the "Catastrophe." SunSeeker May 2024 #145

Arrest that butcher Netanyahu the second he touches American soil TomDaisy May 2024 #21

On what grounds? sarisataka May 2024 #28

Three different international courts are seeking warrants, here's one that's been the most active ... marble falls May 2024 #35

"Seeking warrants" sarisataka May 2024 #37

The US does not recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC. SunSeeker May 2024 #51

Maybe not MFM008 May 2024 #152

So how would that get him arrested in the UNITED STATES? SunSeeker May 2024 #157

Maybe Netanyahu insulted his daughter? NT AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #204

I have heard some folks say HarryM May 2024 #27

Perhaps the underlying answer is not the acceptable number of casualties. colorado_ufo May 2024 #31

Hamas could end this now Mz Pip May 2024 #34

So, Israel is serving Hamas' aims? David__77 May 2024 #36

How? Beastly Boy May 2024 #41

I was referring to the post to which I responded. David__77 May 2024 #42

I see nothing in that post that would lead you to presume that Israel Beastly Boy May 2024 #44

What has Hamas done for its people? Mz Pip May 2024 #43

Yup, that about sums it up. SunSeeker May 2024 #53

Exactly. betsuni May 2024 #77

So you agree tha Israel is committing carnage of civilians. AloeVera May 2024 #46

If they truly wanted it to stop Mossfern May 2024 #47

Hamas has been trying to return the hostages since Oct 10? sarisataka May 2024 #48

It was revealed in the Times of Israel. AloeVera May 2024 #50

LOL That is NOT "trying to return the hostages." What a sick fucking joke. SunSeeker May 2024 #54

I wouldn't call that "trying to return" sarisataka May 2024 #61

Well, yes. They didn't take the hostages with no purpose. AloeVera May 2024 #81

Or, this is crazy but hear me out, sarisataka May 2024 #84

Yes, taking the word of the most trustworthy terror group known to man. Ace Rothstein May 2024 #65

Umm, so why has Israel been negotiating with them for months? AloeVera May 2024 #78

Outside of the initial hostage release, all they've done is talk. Ace Rothstein May 2024 #83

Israel could end this now. Iggo May 2024 #57

Why? Hamas continues to shoot rockets at Israelis. Should Israel just let it happen? SunSeeker May 2024 #70

Yes sarisataka May 2024 #73

Yeah, but they started it. (n/t) Iggo May 2024 #55

DURec leftstreet May 2024 #101

Got to question a lot of this thread. Aussie105 May 2024 #126

Kids of any race should matter ilovegamers43 May 2024 #128

Thank you obamanut2012 May 2024 #198

Pro-Palestinian voices that argue for (or fail to argue against) Hamas should be ignored gulliver May 2024 #135

Referring to the killings of children as "sob stories" is deeply insensitive and dismissive. David__77 May 2024 #136

They are "sob stories" when foolishly or cynically used as tools in service of preserving Hamas gulliver May 2024 #139

Where in the article did it say Hamas was active in that school? iemanja May 2024 #227

Not to mention disgusting and nauseating jcmaine72 May 2024 #159

Yes, you can't be "pro-human" and pro-terrorist at the same time. Nixie May 2024 #138

I don't think killing Palestinian children is a "sob story". David__77 May 2024 #141

The reference was about the hypocrites. Nixie May 2024 #151

Sob stories wtaf obamanut2012 May 2024 #199

You can't be pro-human and justify the way Netanhayu has chosen to execute this war iemanja May 2024 #226

You can't be pro-women and pro gang rapists at the Nixie May 2024 #242

What makes you think I'm pro-rapist iemanja May 2024 #265

But Israel Nixie May 2024 #267

While you still can't condemn the murder of children iemanja May 2024 #268

Now the predictable mind reading. Nixie May 2024 #269

Demonization as moral inferiors etc is used against the Palestinian people too. AloeVera May 2024 #142

Voices dismissing those who lament the bombing of children... jcmaine72 May 2024 #161

The term "sob stories" is my choice of terms for tragic stories as told in service of immorality gulliver May 2024 #172

"Sob stories", as a statement, really conveys a certain view of things. David__77 May 2024 #178

It conveys a view of the victims as unworthy of compassion iemanja May 2024 #229

Yep. Goddessartist May 2024 #194

+1, people are losing their sense of humanity in seeking revenge. uponit7771 May 2024 #239

Repulsive. ForgoTheConsequence May 2024 #203

It's hard to stop once you get rolling. marble falls May 2024 #228