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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]Eko
(10,127 posts)84. Ill break it down for you.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
This is addressing congress and the US government, not an individuals right to curtail free speech of which we have that right. You cant come on to my property saying what you want and I have to stand by. I have the right to curtail your free speech on my property.
It is beyond debate that freedom to engage in association for the advancement of beliefs and ideas is an inseparable aspect of the liberty assured by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, which embraces freedom of speech. . . . Of course, it is immaterial whether the beliefs sought to be advanced by association pertain to political, economic, religious or cultural matters, and state action which may have the effect of curtailing the freedom to associate is subject to the closest scrutiny. (1.) It appears from the Courts opinions that the right of association is derivative from the First Amendment guarantees of speech, assembly, and petition, (2.) although it has at times been referred to as an independent freedom protected by the First Amendment. (3.)
(1.) Upheld in NAACP v. Alabama ex rel. Patterson, 357 U.S. 449, 46061 (1958).
State action, not individual action. You have no free speech on my property.
Try again.
This is addressing congress and the US government, not an individuals right to curtail free speech of which we have that right. You cant come on to my property saying what you want and I have to stand by. I have the right to curtail your free speech on my property.
It is beyond debate that freedom to engage in association for the advancement of beliefs and ideas is an inseparable aspect of the liberty assured by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, which embraces freedom of speech. . . . Of course, it is immaterial whether the beliefs sought to be advanced by association pertain to political, economic, religious or cultural matters, and state action which may have the effect of curtailing the freedom to associate is subject to the closest scrutiny. (1.) It appears from the Courts opinions that the right of association is derivative from the First Amendment guarantees of speech, assembly, and petition, (2.) although it has at times been referred to as an independent freedom protected by the First Amendment. (3.)
(1.) Upheld in NAACP v. Alabama ex rel. Patterson, 357 U.S. 449, 46061 (1958).
State action, not individual action. You have no free speech on my property.
Try again.
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You are still going to have to show where it says I have to respect someones views.
Eko
Jun 2024
#80
And you didnt say anything about respect as in tolerate peoples views to hold them.
Eko
Jun 2024
#90
Well Mutant, I am primarily African American, with sizeable admixtures of NA, Arab, East Asian, Iberian, Northern,
The_REAL_Ecumenist
Jun 2024
#131
What's he been smoking? He sure has lost his mental compass the last few years. Nt
captain queeg
Jun 2024
#2
Money & Power. It's a known substance that can cause warped reality and paranoia over your tax break.
chowder66
Jun 2024
#29
Is he really asking if the punishment should be fucking curbed because of the reaction of shitty MAGA supporters?
SoFlaBro
Jun 2024
#3
I thought that was a given since Merchan is not the steoreotypical "dark" Hispanic, neither is my Lady Friend from Cuba
Silent Type
Jun 2024
#63
I agree with you ProfessorGAC ...I just got done watching the entire show. Bill Maher was definitely going after/
skylucy
Jun 2024
#27
+1. Enjoyed him for years, but he can say some things that make me cringe and that rubs some people wrong.
Silent Type
Jun 2024
#65
Another Maher joke was that if they sentence him to house arrest, Melanoma will scream NOOOOO.
Silent Type
Jun 2024
#18
Spot on. But I wonder if he's healthy enough to stand long enough behind a soup table, dishing out soup for
SWBTATTReg
Jun 2024
#33
The worst Magats are crazy enough to riot and kill, but I don't see how race comes into it.
Doodley
Jun 2024
#25
The fact that CNN presents his show on their network highlights why CNN really isn't a "news" station anymore, like
JohnSJ
Jun 2024
#30
I just did & I'm taking my OP down. I tried to find a clip before posting, couldn't, and I got burnt by a shit article
Celerity
Jun 2024
#145
If he gets sentenced to jail (and rightly so), I can see MAGA getting violent but race war? No.
Deuxcents
Jun 2024
#37
Frankly, I'm so fkn TIRED of hearing and reading of those fearing what MAGA might do.
B.See
Jun 2024
#45
You have one old comedian lamenting the lost masculine patriarchy, and a satirist who has no balls.
Baitball Blogger
Jun 2024
#57