Pro Palestine Protestors Block Philadelphia Pride Parade

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61. The group that I was talking with was a liberal church group.

It's the kind of church that RWers would call "woke." They support Ukraine because one of their members had prior experience in Ukraine and was organizing aid shipments there.

They have churches in Palestine and in South Africa, so they buy into the Palestinian view that compares South African apartheid with Israel and Palestine, although they are separate circumstances with a separate history. They view Israelis as colonizers and Palestinians as indigenous people whose land was stolen by colonialists.

Their view is that a two state solution should be temporary, only to establish peace for now. In the end, they believe that Israeli statehood should be dissolved and replaced with one nation of Palestinian Muslims and Israeli Jews living in harmony with Palestinian Christians, who are a definite minority in the region. That would make Palestinian Muslims the dominant majority in the one nation, so harmony is questionable considering that the "woke" church embraces full gender and sexual orientation equality.

The church called for immediate ceasefire as soon as the Israel-Hamas war started, which would leave Hamas intact in Palestine (and in a future one state). They push for divestment from Israeli businesses. They gloss over the 10/7 attacks and refuse to address the rapes. They would not allow it to be brought up in the discussion, despite claiming support of full gender equality and rights.

One very vocal member of the group said that Israel was destroying a duly elected government (Hamas) in Palestine, which was a war crime. He refused to acknowledge Hamas as a terrorist organization. I reminded him that Hitler was also elected.