Genocide? This is in fact what genocide looks like:

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13. dangggggg......

This is why these Israel/Palestine threads devolve so quickly. People are making so many assumptions about one another based on a post. (Granted, evidently there are some members who are more consistent in their messaging and thus their position is clearer.)

OP like this one: "Oh, so other lives don't matter?"

OP about Palestinians: "Oh so you support Hamas?"

OP about Israel: "Oh, so you're okay with genocide?"

For fuck's sake, just the way the left has fractured since October indicates how very complex this entire situation is. It would be easier if the focus could be on what is happening NOW but, very understandably, someone rather quickly points to past history and that IS complex. The history of this region isn't black and white.

I have immersed myself for months (like seriously a full-time job's worth of diving in) reading the history from multiple sources and reading a multitude of discussions and tried to boil it down to colonialist white supremacy but that is so very reductive.

I wish members would quit sniping so at least here we could have more rational, informed discussions. Personally, I'd really like to understand various members' perspectives but the nasty accusations are almost immediate.

ETA: I'm fully aware I have only scratched the surface in my learning.