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Kid Berwyn

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19. Russia says the D-Day invasion "did not have a decisive impact" on World War II
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 02:09 PM
Jun 2024
Russia says the D-Day invasion "did not have a decisive impact" on World War II and its significance "should not be exaggerated".

By Ciaran Sunderland
Reuters, June 6, 2019

Excerpt…

"As historians note, the Normandy landing did not have a decisive impact on the outcome of World War Two and the Great Patriotic War.

"It had already been pre-determined as a result of the Red Army's victories, mainly at Stalingrad (in late 1942) and Kursk (in mid-1943)," Zakharova told reporters.

Snip…

Moscow, which had been fighting German forces in the east for almost three years by the time of D-Day, and gradually pushing them back from early 1943, had been urging Britain's Winston Churchill to open a second front as far back as August 1942.

Snip…

Zakhorova's statement follows an article written by Sergey Lavrov, Russia's foreign minister, in Russia's International Affairs magazine. Lavrov said that the D-Day operations are part of "pseudo-historical theories" introduced to the "Western education system" that "belittle" the efforts of the Soviet Union during World War II.

The Russian Embassy in the US has also issued a number of tweets highlighting the role of the Soviet Union's Red Army during WW2 and state that "the brunt of the war against Nazism" was still "primarily carried by the USSR".

Continues…

https://www.euronews.com/2019/06/06/russia-says-d-day-s-significance-should-not-be-exaggerated

PS: Here’s Lavrov in the Oval Office with Lindsey Graham’s favorite traitor:



Almost forgot: Stalin and Hitler were allied when they invaded Poland to start World War 2. Thanks to FDR, the United States served as the Arsenal of Democracy.

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Wtaf unblock Jun 2024 #1
Incredible, isn't it - especially considering what Nazis would do to someone like Lindsey peppertree Jun 2024 #28
Remember when Lindsey had a brain? BonnieJW Jun 2024 #55
SPINE, perhaps.? If he ever had either. B.See Jun 2024 #72
Naw, he was only borrowing McCain's brain. Crunchy Frog Jun 2024 #93
LG is being blackmailed, I'm almost certain of it. There are photos, I've heard. If true, & if they were made public * Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #135
No doubt about it. That is, after all, how the mafia kept J. Edgar in line - and off their backs. peppertree Jun 2024 #141
Yessir, even as you suggest. RVN VET71 Jun 2024 #149
You explained it and analyzed it perfectly * Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #159
Still an idiot. He's sitting there now speaking English, not German... brush Jun 2024 #2
My guess - Graham says it was a failure because wnylib Jun 2024 #59
Right. Lindsay, always ahead of the curve. sarc gif here if needed. brush Jun 2024 #69
Lindsey Is A Failure...... global1 Jun 2024 #3
Why would he say something like that? Srkdqltr Jun 2024 #4
It seems the whole GOP is damning everything NATO. Midnight Writer Jun 2024 #13
This FHRRK Jun 2024 #18
My guess is trump told him to under the pain of some rurallib Jun 2024 #26
They're all crazier than shithouse owls. Magoo48 Jun 2024 #49
Or batshit crazy?? Don't know which is worse Evolve Dammit Jun 2024 #110
Why? To further nudge his head up Trump's B.See Jun 2024 #73
maybe he is pimping for Trump Skittles Jun 2024 #102
Wants to be on the Vengeance Tour. Peeing his pants in fear if he doesn't? Evolve Dammit Jun 2024 #108
I hate him with the passion of a million suns dsc Jun 2024 #5
I wish everyone would listen to the clip before assuming! LauraInLA Jun 2024 #76
Who scripted that little nugget? EYESORE 9001 Jun 2024 #6
That's what Putin would say. Kid Berwyn Jun 2024 #7
well actually they did do the 'heavy lifting'. Voltaire2 Jun 2024 #11
Russia says the D-Day invasion "did not have a decisive impact" on World War II Kid Berwyn Jun 2024 #19
Without the bitterness of Winter, who knows where Russia would be right now. TheBlackAdder Jun 2024 #24
Actually, you could say the Oval Office "was" Lavrov's office during Donnie Dipshits misadministration maxrandb Jun 2024 #42
Without US aid, the Soviets would have been in the shitter. paleotn Jun 2024 #57
'Second front'? Voltaire2 Jun 2024 #100
Reading comprehension perhaps? That's what I bleeping wrote. paleotn Jun 2024 #109
So the Russians are fighting Nazis for three whole years. Ligyron Jun 2024 #138
I dunno. You ever hear about the Battle of the North Atlantic? Kid Berwyn Jun 2024 #140
This is why I hate video clips that are a few seconds long. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2024 #8
Context? Seriously??? anciano Jun 2024 #15
You can make the Bible say anything if you avoid context Kaleva Jun 2024 #157
What a stupid ass statement. oasis Jun 2024 #9
So, how many community notes does Lindsey have? sakabatou Jun 2024 #10
"We had a dozen ways to stop Hitler" ? Say what, Lindsey? ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2024 #12
Did He List Them? ProfessorGAC Jun 2024 #14
No. ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2024 #78
I Figured So ProfessorGAC Jun 2024 #82
The U.S. was isolationist before Pearl Harbor. former9thward Jun 2024 #23
That's my sense of what he might have meant as well. thucythucy Jun 2024 #85
In the sense that fascism is back with a vengeance? tanyev Jun 2024 #16
A bit of context sarisataka Jun 2024 #17
Given that the war started in July of 1937 - cab67 Jun 2024 #119
D-Day was indeed a huge failure, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2024 #20
Another armchair general Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2024 #21
He did not say D-Day was a failure. former9thward Jun 2024 #22
Still staggering hypocrisy from a man who initially opposed Trump tanyev Jun 2024 #30
Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #32
Kinda sucks that people make personal attacks rather than discussing the post. former9thward Jun 2024 #33
"We celebrated the 80th anniversary of D Day, uh it was a failure, an unnessacary war." Autumn Jun 2024 #80
Except you misquoted him and changed the context. former9thward Jun 2024 #91
OMG the horror, "It was the" He said it, doesn't change a thing. Autumn Jun 2024 #99
If we acted forcefully in the 1930s those tens of millions would not have died. former9thward Jun 2024 #101
If only we had a time machine. But we don't so what ifs are bullshit. Nope, not gonna Autumn Jun 2024 #103
And if Europe went to war in 1938 Wednesdays Jun 2024 #132
Just a lot of what if's and should haves to change history to defend a nasty, vile republican. Autumn Jun 2024 #144
Okay atreides1 Jun 2024 #84
Many, many historians have pointed how that could have been done. former9thward Jun 2024 #87
So it is almost like Lindsey supports the Ukraine war Captain Zero Jun 2024 #131
He has been a vocal proponent of U.S. aid to Ukraine. former9thward Jun 2024 #145
Agreed. Hitler could have been stopped. mwooldri Jun 2024 #136
All of which is irrelevant lonely bird Jun 2024 #137
We definitely shouldn't have turned Jews away wryter2000 Jun 2024 #151
You're pointing out... appmanga Jun 2024 #160
You listened to what you wanted to hear. former9thward Jun 2024 #161
I also try to be objective. appmanga Jun 2024 #162
Has he utterly lost his mind? Hekate Jun 2024 #25
Why do they keep interviewing him on Sunday morning Emile Jun 2024 #27
Anymore, Republicans don't regard freedom and democracy as worthy goals, but as hindrances to their power. Beartracks Jun 2024 #29
Someone is skeered that Biden looked good in Europe senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #31
That's my take as well peggysue2 Jun 2024 #37
Exactly. sop Jun 2024 #58
i always thought the military was a sacred cow in politics Takket Jun 2024 #34
Republicans do not care about the actual citizens of the United States Traurigkeit Jun 2024 #107
And yet, less than a year later, the Third Reich was no more. Hitler dead, Mussolini dead, Japan crumbling. Swede Jun 2024 #35
His sickness shows up more every day. elleng Jun 2024 #36
When you're on the side of the Nazis maxrandb Jun 2024 #38
Was he talking about Biden's D-Day Speech Deep State Witch Jun 2024 #39
No, he was talking about what a mistake it was appeasing Hitler in the beginning of WWII. SunSeeker Jun 2024 #53
Idiot Deep State Witch Jun 2024 #54
So you disagree with Lindsey that we shouldn't appease Putin? nt SunSeeker Jun 2024 #61
IMHO, that doesn't make the invasion a failure wryter2000 Jun 2024 #152
Of course he should have put it that way. It was a stupid gaff. nt SunSeeker Jun 2024 #155
How does this turd keep getting re-elected? Owl Jun 2024 #40
What a terrible human being. colorado_ufo Jun 2024 #41
It was a failure for the Nazis. Hmmm. twodogsbarking Jun 2024 #43
snork AllaN01Bear Jun 2024 #44
Lindsey is a gross human. Bluethroughu Jun 2024 #45
This brain worm problem may be more widespread than we thought. surfered Jun 2024 #46
Another reason I am glad that my Dad left this world w/o witnessing the stupidity of the last 10 years. TexLaProgressive Jun 2024 #47
Disgraceful. Armchair general spouting Russian talking points. 58Sunliner Jun 2024 #48
WTAF is wrong w/this guy? Seriously. Now republicans are against democracy? TBF Jun 2024 #50
Transcript of his remarks.... reACTIONary Jun 2024 #51
Thank you. We have tons of reasons to bash Lindsey, but this isn't it. SunSeeker Jun 2024 #56
Thank you for that part of the transcript. Rather than attack him for the D-Day niyad Jun 2024 #125
i'll probably die barbtries Jun 2024 #52
WOW Jaydog Jun 2024 #60
Has anyone ever considered that the Republicans may have been given injections tavernier Jun 2024 #62
Wow. That's pretty out there. jobendorfer Jun 2024 #63
Graham's comments may indeed be correct, that D-Day would have unnecessary had we dealt with Hitler in the mid-30's OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2024 #64
Okay atreides1 Jun 2024 #89
Hindsight is 20/20. nt Shipwack Jun 2024 #116
Misty Vapor's sad attempt at nazi gaslighting. nt The Unmitigated Gall Jun 2024 #65
How does he say that without the Russian accent? Ford_Prefect Jun 2024 #66
Unbelievable Jilly_in_VA Jun 2024 #67
In fairness to Graham anamnua Jun 2024 #68
well then, he should probably be telling Trump that re: Putin harumph Jun 2024 #70
He can't. He's too busy appeasing the Hitler wannabe, Trump Autumn Jun 2024 #83
Graham: yet another fine, upstanding Reich wing 'American patriot. " B.See Jun 2024 #71
I wonder if anyone asked that twit about those dozen chances to stop Hitler Warpy Jun 2024 #74
D-Day was "a failure", it was an unnessacary war. Autumn Jun 2024 #75
His point was that Hitler should have been stopped. It was his way of arguing that Putin needs to be stopped onenote Jun 2024 #92
Fuck him and his worthless appeasing of his Hitler wannabe Trump. The only people who don't Autumn Jun 2024 #98
Why in the hell does the TV media stations continue to give these assholes airtime? FarPoint Jun 2024 #77
Lindsey Graham is a weak and sad person LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #79
We commemorate D Day for the immense sacrifices made that day in June, 1944 Deuxcents Jun 2024 #81
Lindsey's greater purpose may be to undermine the belief in collaborative effort to achieve good. c-rational Jun 2024 #86
Lindsay will do/say anything to prevent clown MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #88
Graham picked the wrong day for this; however, he is correct that we should have stopped Hitler Silent Type Jun 2024 #90
Lindsey Graham is a failure as a senator. Emile Jun 2024 #94
The D-Day failure remark seems very out of place in his comment. hadEnuf Jun 2024 #95
He was a JAG lawyer RANDYWILDMAN Jun 2024 #96
Is there a GOP. Competition Blue Idaho Jun 2024 #97
Possible motives. SarahD Jun 2024 #104
That whiny poor excuse of a Senator should get 40 lashes with a 9 tails. Traurigkeit Jun 2024 #105
Words chosen so poorly as to be without a rational defense. Torchlight Jun 2024 #106
I guess that explains why we're all speaking German... Sibelius Fan Jun 2024 #111
This confirms that all of the Republican Party think that Military Service members were all suckers. Jacson6 Jun 2024 #112
Lindsey the warmonger likes to pontificate about sharing his battle plans and fighting all those brutal wars.wars magicarpet Jun 2024 #113
Like Ted Nugent keithbvadu2 Jun 2024 #126
Ya just like him,... magicarpet Jun 2024 #146
Time to fire off another letter to this idiot. liberal N proud Jun 2024 #114
The liberation of Europe and the fall of Hitler was a failure? patphil Jun 2024 #115
Well that explains that noise I've been hearing all day maspaha Jun 2024 #117
Today's republican party is more like the nazis than the brave troops who gained the beachhead Mysterian Jun 2024 #118
What. yardwork Jun 2024 #120
"we had a dozen chances to stop Hitler" krkaufman Jun 2024 #121
Leningrad Lindsey has had his head up the convicted felon ex-president's ass for so long, republianmushroom Jun 2024 #122
I'd like John McCain to return from the dead just to kick Lindsey's pathetic ass. spanone Jun 2024 #123
Huh? Lulu KC Jun 2024 #124
Lindsey, how long have you 'known' that D-Day was a failure? keithbvadu2 Jun 2024 #127
Well, his political party IS full of fascists, so... RockRaven Jun 2024 #128
Yup, a failure. That's why there were hundreds of thousands of allied troops in Normandy on June 7. 4lbs Jun 2024 #129
I think he meant that the war itself was a failure of allowing Hitler to stay in power, but, it's still equally stupid. Oneironaut Jun 2024 #130
How nice he took a moment from licking Nazi-loving tRump's toilet to tell us that Blue Owl Jun 2024 #133
Low-life piece of shit. (nt) Paladin Jun 2024 #134
i do believe that grahams brain, that he had when he was hanging out with dawn5651 Jun 2024 #139
And vets still line up to eat the shit straight out of their asses Orrex Jun 2024 #142
As a South Carolina resident, I fired off a message liberal N proud Jun 2024 #143
O. M. G. calimary Jun 2024 #147
If you are on the side of Nazis, and you wanted the Nazis to win, yes, D-Day was an absolute failure. SupportSanity Jun 2024 #148
Linsey says that Hitler should've been assasinated. There were a dozen attempts. No war if Hitler had been assasinated. SupportSanity Jun 2024 #150
It's not like people didn't try wryter2000 Jun 2024 #153
Lindsey is a tool - that's a given. Phootie is the de facto head of the Republican Party- a given. NoMoreRepugs Jun 2024 #154
What kind of employee benefits do you get when you're on Putin's payroll? PeaceWave Jun 2024 #156
Anyone have a link to what he said in entirety? Kaleva Jun 2024 #158
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