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In reply to the discussion: Palestinian journalist held Israeli hostages in his home [View all]andym
(6,070 posts)81. Differing definitions: the home hosted civilians as well as an undercover Hamas militant
The presence of actual civilians defines it as a civilian home, and hopefully no harm came to them. Unfortunately this ruthless militant had no qualms about putting his family in harm's way, which may be a recurring theme in this war. In a sense the militant not only held an Israeli hostage but his own family hostage.
Alternately, the presence of a Hamas militant holding a hostage allows it to be classified as a potential military target by various conventions.
So it can be described in both ways, and IMO it is both, which creates the ambiguity that confuses you. Another poster called it mixed use, which fits the situation.
The home is both a civilian home using a simple definition of any place occupied by civilians and a potential military target due to the presence of a militant and a hostage. The best way to describe it as a civilians' home used for military purposes-- which happens quite frequently in wars, often with the civilians having little say in the matter. The IDF used this definition, which conveys the meaning intended.
Alternately, the presence of a Hamas militant holding a hostage allows it to be classified as a potential military target by various conventions.
So it can be described in both ways, and IMO it is both, which creates the ambiguity that confuses you. Another poster called it mixed use, which fits the situation.
The home is both a civilian home using a simple definition of any place occupied by civilians and a potential military target due to the presence of a militant and a hostage. The best way to describe it as a civilians' home used for military purposes-- which happens quite frequently in wars, often with the civilians having little say in the matter. The IDF used this definition, which conveys the meaning intended.
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Would you consider a bank robber who holds hostages a civilian or a terrorist?
Beastly Boy
Jun 2024
#144
That's silly, this hastage holder was holding a terrorist group's hostage...
Think. Again.
Jun 2024
#146
Exactly. Who's doing the cooking, cleaning, washing clothes, and general care of the hostages? Women
betsuni
Jun 2024
#160
The IDF said he was a hamas operative, but then claimed his home was a civilian home.
Think. Again.
Jun 2024
#11
According to Palestine Chronicle for whom he worked: Abdallah Aljamal is a Gaza-based journalist.
LeftInTX
Jun 2024
#15
Are you saying IDF considers hamas operatives as civilians? or the other way around?
Think. Again.
Jun 2024
#64
Apparently the "home" where Palestinian journalist and his family held hostages
lapucelle
Jun 2024
#23
Differing definitions: the home hosted civilians as well as an undercover Hamas militant
andym
Jun 2024
#81
How does his being a hamas operative indicate others are hamas sympathizers?
Think. Again.
Jun 2024
#62
Because the operative comes home to his civilian family in a civilian building where other civilians live in
betsuni
Jun 2024
#98
Try him as a war criminal under the Geneva Convention, if he's alive.
Hellbound Hellhound
Jun 2024
#6
Just another Hamas cultist. Glad for that. Thanks for the update. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Jun 2024
#14
And in a pretty ballsy move, Israel agents entered Nuseirat camp in disguise ahead of rescue op...
EX500rider
Jun 2024
#32
Clearly. This has been obvious the whole way. The denials illogical and bizarre.
TheKentuckian
Jun 2024
#170
What are you talking about? I'm not shocked that terrorist operatives were holding hostages in an apartment building
lapucelle
Jun 2024
#89
The journalist's father was also killed in the rescue mission. He was a doctor.
lapucelle
Jun 2024
#126