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"I need feminism because..." [View all] WilliamPitt Nov 2012 OP
Powerful image. forestpath Nov 2012 #1
R&K for this one. nt longship Nov 2012 #2
that says it all. very precise. nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #3
Should all self-defense classes be stopped? Bonobo Nov 2012 #4
Are you that daft as to misinterpret the meaning of this young woman's message? WHOOSH! n/t demmiblue Nov 2012 #7
I understand her point, but really, is there anyone who doesn't know that rape is wrong? HiPointDem Nov 2012 #12
An awful lot of guys are not taught that No means No Hekate Nov 2012 #13
Do you think there are really a lot of men who don't know it's wrong to have sex with HiPointDem Nov 2012 #16
I see your point, but sadly, LisaLynne Nov 2012 #23
so much in society and media tell our boys this is a "mans" job. one way or another, it is all seabeyond Nov 2012 #27
It is not just rape, but violence question everything Nov 2012 #32
Rape IS violence lapislzi Nov 2012 #34
Of course it is question everything Nov 2012 #49
Oh, I totally agree. lapislzi Nov 2012 #64
i don't see dark forest Dec 2012 #113
And to highlight this point, I've just heard about the football player question everything Dec 2012 #114
i will take this a step further. my experience with two boys, girls do a lot of hitting, pushing, seabeyond Nov 2012 #35
You are correct. There is violence against men and boys question everything Nov 2012 #50
privilege over testosterone. nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #56
Why femrap Nov 2012 #62
Ya know, dark forest Dec 2012 #112
yes. nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #26
Actually, a lot of them don't. Deep13 Nov 2012 #14
i think most people who pressure others into doing things know it's wrong. i think most HiPointDem Nov 2012 #17
I think it is more likely that one's internal narrative... Deep13 Nov 2012 #19
everyone will *claim* they're innocent. what they know in their gut is another question. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #20
Well, that's the normal reaction. Deep13 Nov 2012 #47
we have to be clear and teach both, our boys and girls. it is a societal conditioning issue. seabeyond Nov 2012 #28
I wish I could rec your post too. KitSileya Nov 2012 #31
isnt it? this is what tells us as a culture, society, we condition. we knew it. this shows. how many seabeyond Nov 2012 #37
as with drug use, it isn't very effective at all. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #52
are you serious? bull fuckin' shit. of course it is. it is the greatest tool a parent has. seabeyond Nov 2012 #57
The 11-14 year old segment is seriously disturbing. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #41
your last sentence was right on. and that is why it is important that we say loudly, NO, there are seabeyond Nov 2012 #43
That is truly eye-opening LanternWaste Nov 2012 #92
i think you give people way to much credit noiretextatique Nov 2012 #79
i believe the definition of sociopath is that they know intellectually but don't care. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #84
i totally agree, and i will add: our culture really does a poor job noiretextatique Nov 2012 #86
i'll add that our culture is sociopathic, because it encourages people to profit by harming others. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #88
indeed noiretextatique Nov 2012 #105
Outstanding response! CrispyQ Nov 2012 #40
It's not just about the individual rapist, wickerwoman Nov 2012 #18
You said it better than I did. LisaLynne Nov 2012 #24
While I've never been to a strip club mythology Nov 2012 #78
I don't think it's the strip clubs or porn, wickerwoman Nov 2012 #95
There was a study some time ago saying 35% of college-age men... Odin2005 Nov 2012 #22
yes. too many. nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #25
If someone *KNOWS* it is wrong, then why would they rape someone? Zorra Nov 2012 #48
who is this enlightened 'we' that needs to 'educate' the other? HiPointDem Nov 2012 #51
This enlightened "we" refers to those of us who don't want to be raped, and who don't want anyone Zorra Nov 2012 #81
You are femrap Nov 2012 #61
well, so are you, then. happy holidays! HiPointDem Nov 2012 #63
yes, he is. n/t Whisp Nov 2012 #103
Not instead of, in addition to. nolabear Nov 2012 #8
I know femrap Nov 2012 #60
Why precisely does the one deny the other? LanternWaste Nov 2012 #90
halle freakin lujah! liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #5
lots of good ones here too LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #6
The fact that the students are 60% female influences their choice of message. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #9
then what would be the reason when the number was much lower. it has ALWAYS been, how to prevent seabeyond Nov 2012 #29
I don't think rapists rape because they forgot, or that no one ever told them, that it is wrong. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #30
where you are being obtuse is society conditioning both genders about behaviors that allow rape, seabeyond Nov 2012 #38
our society programs our men to think they have to be aggresive liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #42
and now we have an effectively fun movement spreading the word that 45-75% of rape claims are false. seabeyond Nov 2012 #44
exactly liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #45
It's the seeking to DOMINATE...whatever the psychological background that KoKo Nov 2012 #72
Actually, you're wrong. ChaoticTrilby Nov 2012 #94
Not when I was going to school in the 80s AngryAmish Nov 2012 #55
So what? nt sufrommich Nov 2012 #54
Jeezuz. Talk about out of touch. bluerum Nov 2012 #10
K&R DeSwiss Nov 2012 #11
DURec x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #15
K&R, saw this on FB Odin2005 Nov 2012 #21
k&r. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #33
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2012 #36
Wow. Succinct, and poignant. Zorra Nov 2012 #39
Does this only apply to legitimate rapes? Deep13 Nov 2012 #46
point. nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #58
oh oh oh, and the MRA dude that says feminist are taking all the fun out of dating.... seabeyond Nov 2012 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author sally5050 Nov 2012 #53
THis is not an "either/or" thing. dorkulon Nov 2012 #65
+1000 AlexSatan Nov 2012 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #66
Y'know... WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #67
Continually dealing with this shit is exhausting. It truly is. n/t MadrasT Nov 2012 #74
This really hits home for me hack89 Nov 2012 #69
my daughter will be a college freshman next year liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #73
This is what is wrong with our society. aandegoons Nov 2012 #70
Misguided regjoe Nov 2012 #71
*sigh* WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #75
A nice shot of pepper spray also does wonders for mellowing someone out. Dash87 Nov 2012 #91
Sigh regjoe Nov 2012 #96
OMG... "Men are pigs." "You can't teach a rapist "don't rape," seabeyond Nov 2012 #76
"Men are pigs" is not a denial of ownership over their behavior. regjoe Nov 2012 #97
i do not agree that the majority of men are pigs. that is the argument. i have only men and boys seabeyond Nov 2012 #99
"Men are pigs." Way to paint with a broad brush. white_wolf Nov 2012 #77
i agree white wolf and thank you for speaking loud and clear. nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #80
+1 ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #87
We are pigs regjoe Nov 2012 #98
then i guess you will have to just say, women are pigs. do you know, womens thoughts seabeyond Nov 2012 #100
No you know how you think not how I or other men I know think. white_wolf Nov 2012 #104
Come on. All men are not pigs. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2012 #83
It's a minority of men who rape gollygee Nov 2012 #85
Well, it's a small sign LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #93
I get told I am one any time I do something applegrove Nov 2012 #82
No one ever told me that it was not ok to rape someone. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #89
My nieces deserve a full life get the red out Nov 2012 #101
I'd go one step further than teaching "how to avoid getting raped". no_hypocrisy Nov 2012 #102
I know you mean well... FightForMichigan Nov 2012 #106
I'm sorry for your ordeal. no_hypocrisy Nov 2012 #110
Peace to us both FightForMichigan Nov 2012 #111
my freshman yr in college over 20 yrs ago included the dont get raped talk nadine_mn Nov 2012 #107
Like telling your child "don't talk to strangers" LittleBlue Nov 2012 #108
There's nothing essentially wrong with that, except FightForMichigan Nov 2012 #109
Recommended. Heidi Dec 2012 #115
... assumes all the rapists are students JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #116
Derp WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #117
Maybe on an isolated or gated campus JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #118
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