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wnylib

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135. Try this to illuminate the darkness of your confusuion.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 11:16 PM
Jun 2024

In the US, there were people living as civilian immigrants, holding down jobs, taking classes as students, going shopping, taking trips within the country like everyone else.

Then one day they got on planes like everyone else, but it soon became evident that they were not just civilians after all. They were Al Qaeda operatives who hijacked the planes to carry out terrorist attacks.

See? An operative can appear to be just a civilian like anyone else - until it becomes obvious what they are.

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Did he forget to interview Noa? Bad Thoughts Jun 2024 #1
Al Jazeera denies rumor that hostage was held at employee's home lapucelle Jun 2024 #2
The identity was revealed by EuroMed Human Rights Monitor Bad Thoughts Jun 2024 #28
I'm shocked! RandySF Jun 2024 #52
Kind of along the lines of hostages being held at a "refugee camp" The Mouth Jun 2024 #121
Al Jazeera: He was just a coffee boy! SunSeeker Jun 2024 #139
Very odd manicdem Jun 2024 #171
I'm confused... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #3
Oh, you're confused? Here let me help! lapucelle Jun 2024 #5
But my question is... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #7
That question was asked and answered. lapucelle Jun 2024 #9
Thanks for trying, maybe someone can answer my question. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #13
What's confusing? Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #19
But IDF said they were being held in a hamas operative's dwelling. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #26
The operative was a civilian. Beartracks Jun 2024 #71
No, a civilian is not hamas, and hamas are not civilians, by definition. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #73
Sorry - whose definition? Beartracks Jun 2024 #80
hamas is a terrorist organization... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #85
Both can be true at the same time jmbar2 Jun 2024 #101
Civilian Is Not The Antonym Of Terrorist ProfessorGAC Jun 2024 #118
So there IS credence to the claim that... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #128
I Said No Such Thing ProfessorGAC Jun 2024 #140
Would you consider a bank robber who holds hostages a civilian or a terrorist? Beastly Boy Jun 2024 #144
That's silly, this hastage holder was holding a terrorist group's hostage... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #146
Silly indeed. Beastly Boy Jun 2024 #148
If they are holding hostages, they need to die. The Mouth Jul 2024 #174
Try this to illuminate the darkness of your confusuion. wnylib Jun 2024 #135
Did we call them civilians or terrorists after the attack? Think. Again. Jun 2024 #149
Do you think that for the entire time the hostage was there, yagotme Jun 2024 #150
What's to think out? Think. Again. Jun 2024 #153
Hamas recruits children. yagotme Jun 2024 #154
Are you suggesting that... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #156
Are you suggesting they have no responsibility whatever? nt yagotme Jun 2024 #158
I guess I am... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #159
But, if you recall, there are times when "children" are tried as adults. yagotme Jun 2024 #161
The children in the terrorist's hostage home did THAT? Think. Again. Jun 2024 #162
Now you're really being obtuse. yagotme Jun 2024 #163
We don't need diversionary scenarios, let's stick with reality... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #164
He's not the only one blurring the lines between terrorists and civilians... yagotme Jun 2024 #165
Exactly. Who's doing the cooking, cleaning, washing clothes, and general care of the hostages? Women betsuni Jun 2024 #160
Hostages had armed guards LeftInTX Jun 2024 #166
Hamas recruits young children. A 10 year old can hold a gun. nt yagotme Jun 2024 #167
lol. yardwork Jun 2024 #130
Bullshit. Civilians act as operatives in many situations wnylib Jun 2024 #136
I think we know the answer... AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #151
If you participate in terrorism, you are a terrorist. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #157
So what? Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #90
A dwelling is a home, right? Homes exist among other homes. wnylib Jun 2024 #134
The dwelling was in a civilian apartment building Dorian Gray Jun 2024 #141
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Jun 2024 #55
Or maybe you could try reading the answer again. lapucelle Jun 2024 #21
Very true, don't feel bad. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #27
IDF is suggesting the term "civilian" is deliberately misused Bad Thoughts Jun 2024 #43
But IDF said... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #47
No it didn't FBaggins Jun 2024 #59
Yes, they said a hostage found in a hamas operative's home ... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #63
And it is such proof FBaggins Jun 2024 #95
Reading this thread Dorian Gray Jun 2024 #142
Read between the lines Bad Thoughts Jun 2024 #76
It was a civilian apt. Igel Jun 2024 #16
Sounds like a journalist was holding hostages in his home. LeftInTX Jun 2024 #10
The IDF said he was a hamas operative, but then claimed his home was a civilian home. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #11
According to Palestine Chronicle for whom he worked: Abdallah Aljamal is a Gaza-based journalist. LeftInTX Jun 2024 #15
Right, so was it a hamas operative's home or a civilian's home? Think. Again. Jun 2024 #22
This goes round in circles. LeftInTX Jun 2024 #33
Yes, I've noticed that about IDF's statements. It's like... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #37
It's nothing like that at all. lapucelle Jun 2024 #44
Speaking about going around in circles, I have a cute image in my sig line. lapucelle Jun 2024 #51
Perfect. revmclaren Jun 2024 #124
Both TheProle Jun 2024 #61
Are you saying IDF considers hamas operatives as civilians? or the other way around? Think. Again. Jun 2024 #64
I am saying when you are a Hamas operative TheProle Jun 2024 #75
Apparently the "home" where Palestinian journalist and his family held hostages lapucelle Jun 2024 #23
IDF said it was "a family home" too? I didn't see that part. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #29
Why don't link to exactly what you said you heard. lapucelle Jun 2024 #34
My first post, which poses the only question I am asking... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #40
What are you talking about at this point? lapucelle Jun 2024 #41
All of my posts have only asked one question... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #45
Another bump. lapucelle Jun 2024 #48
I'll give it a shot chowder66 Jun 2024 #67
So hamas is not hiding hostages in civilian homes... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #70
Maybe because the other family members in the home Mossfern Jun 2024 #79
There Are None So Blind, Ma'am, As Those Who Will Not To See The Magistrate Jun 2024 #50
Think how much fun they must be at parties... lapucelle Jun 2024 #54
it's sort of familiar to a user i blocked a while back Hieronymus Phact Jun 2024 #86
Sealioning, I believe n/t Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2024 #145
Thanks for pointing that out. Hieronymus Phact Jun 2024 #173
"It's just another flavor of trolling." Jedi Guy Jun 2024 #147
100% Dorian Gray Jun 2024 #143
It helps if you actually read the OP before you start asking questions. lapucelle Jun 2024 #38
I actually quoted the OP in my question. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #72
Bump. lapucelle Jun 2024 #74
Yes wouldn't want to Cha Jun 2024 #68
It is straight-up gaslighting. NT Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #92
Imagine pretending to be confused about what an apartment building is. lapucelle Jun 2024 #97
He was living there with his wife, adult daughter, Grandpa, and grandkids NickB79 Jun 2024 #17
Yes, so why did IDF ... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #24
Differing definitions: the home hosted civilians as well as an undercover Hamas militant andym Jun 2024 #81
THANK YOU!!! Think. Again. Jun 2024 #88
Ask them JustAnotherGen Jun 2024 #123
Operatives still live in civilian dwellings. Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #91
His home was a unit in an apartment building sarisataka Jun 2024 #20
But my question is... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #25
If i understand you correctly sarisataka Jun 2024 #30
I didn't mention the style of architecture... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #31
I think i may be getting your gist sarisataka Jun 2024 #35
So wh did IDF say findin a hostage in a hamas home ... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #36
As i just explained sarisataka Jun 2024 #39
No, the IDF statement in the OP said it was a hamas operative's home. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #42
This is tiring. You are being disingenuous at best, sarisataka Jun 2024 #46
Just hoping for an answer. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #49
My last reply... sarisataka Jun 2024 #56
Thanks!... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #60
Thanks for all the kicking I guess? EllieBC Jun 2024 #57
How does his being a hamas operative indicate others are hamas sympathizers? Think. Again. Jun 2024 #62
It's pretty clear and has been for a while EllieBC Jun 2024 #65
Yes, it's one of the many horrific things hamas does... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #69
Wow, give it up. Joinfortmill Jun 2024 #66
"Just hoping for an answer." Right. Sure you are. Tell us another. ClickClack Jun 2024 #83
I wouldn't be asking it over and over if I got an answer.... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #87
Hahaha purposely obtuse. MotownPgh Jun 2024 #93
Consistently JustAnotherGen Jun 2024 #133
Why bother with explanations to obtuse questions that derail threads? wnylib Jun 2024 #137
Because the operative comes home to his civilian family in a civilian building where other civilians live in betsuni Jun 2024 #98
To classify them as journalists is a disservice to real journalists. These are JohnSJ Jun 2024 #4
Exactly. He was a terrorist propagandist, not a journalist. nt SunSeeker Jun 2024 #138
Try him as a war criminal under the Geneva Convention, if he's alive. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #6
He was killed. LeftInTX Jun 2024 #12
Just another Hamas cultist. Glad for that. Thanks for the update. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #14
I think the Palestine Chronicle is US based. LeftInTX Jun 2024 #8
Fellow travelers. Igel Jun 2024 #18
And in a pretty ballsy move, Israel agents entered Nuseirat camp in disguise ahead of rescue op... EX500rider Jun 2024 #32
Wow.. TY for this.. IDF is Cha Jun 2024 #127
Journalist for a paper based in WA. EllieBC Jun 2024 #53
I'm sorry to say this.... RandySF Jun 2024 #58
I do believe stage left Jun 2024 #77
Many of them have been propagandized from early childhood. lapucelle Jun 2024 #78
Clearly. This has been obvious the whole way. The denials illogical and bizarre. TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #170
This is MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #82
How many WW2 or Vietnam War correspondents RandySF Jun 2024 #84
What are you talking about? I'm not shocked that terrorist operatives were holding hostages in an apartment building lapucelle Jun 2024 #89
No i am not shocked that gazan civilians EllieBC Jun 2024 #94
I do NOT trust reports from HAMAS linked reporters LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #96
Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #99
Welcome to DU MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #100
Apparently I struck a nerve. lapucelle Jun 2024 #102
It would seem so, but MIRt is on the job and took out the trash. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #103
Did you see it. sheshe2 Jun 2024 #104
I copied it, but the post was removed before he got his donut. lapucelle Jun 2024 #114
Ooops! sheshe2 Jun 2024 #117
Someone's busy.... lapucelle Jun 2024 #119
What was that? Mossfern Jun 2024 #105
I've struck a few nerves here today. lapucelle Jun 2024 #115
Yep, and MIRt has taken care to take the MAGAt trash out. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #116
Yes Struck it Right out of here 🍕🍕 Cha Jun 2024 #122
Least surprising thing I've heard all day. Ace Rothstein Jun 2024 #106
Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #107
Welcome back and goodbye. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #108
Quick return sarisataka Jun 2024 #109
Might've been me by mistake, that mistake has been rectified. nt MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #110
I see that. The sad thing is i wasn't surprised. sarisataka Jun 2024 #111
They'll be back again, the MAGAt's just can't resist. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #113
Hello. You sound nice!! Bye GP6971 Jun 2024 #112
... sheshe2 Jun 2024 #120
It is plain as day JustAnotherGen Jun 2024 #125
The journalist's father was also killed in the rescue mission. He was a doctor. lapucelle Jun 2024 #126
I thought a part of the oath doctors took was thucythucy Jun 2024 #129
Me too JustAnotherGen Jun 2024 #132
You do know, that Hamas will report these as "civilian" deaths, yagotme Jun 2024 #152
From that article JustAnotherGen Jun 2024 #131
A journalist should be intelligent enough to know RandySF Jun 2024 #155
When you put trolls on ignore Sugarcoated Jun 2024 #168
"168 replies" JoseBalow Jun 2024 #169
More readable, but with less LOL's... nt yagotme Jun 2024 #172
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