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Lucky Luciano

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288. Not exactly that at all...but if you go after Hamas directly and their sympathizers perish in the process then...

Reply to Martin68 (Reply #241)

Mon Jun 10, 2024, 09:53 PM

Jun 2024

I did sympathize with the kids stuck in the middle of the terrible adults that are playing on your heartstrings by being used as pawns for propaganda purposes.

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Genocide? This is in fact what genocide looks like: [View all] PCIntern Jun 2024 OP

Co-opting the word genocide ismnotwasm Jun 2024 #1

37,000 Palestinians and 1,478 Israel's have died. That imbalance could be construed by many rational people to amount Martin68 Jun 2024 #48

Eye for an eye is justice, not war Bad Thoughts Jun 2024 #57

Hamas chose to fight a war. Israeli is killing and maiming a hundred thousand civilians. "Collateral damage?" Martin68 Jun 2024 #61

When compared to other urban warfare, Gaza is a fucking miracle Bad Thoughts Jun 2024 #68

Your blithe statement regarding "The tragedy that has beset some 30,000 Gazans" is shockingly callous. That figure Martin68 Jun 2024 #72

TRUTH! AloeVera Jun 2024 #74

Deaths are a clear hard data point Bad Thoughts Jun 2024 #122

I disagree with your contention that "Netanyahu has no need to reveal plans for the post war." The US is supplying Martin68 Jun 2024 #175

Death tolls are also controlled by Hamas; no independent verification. oldsoftie Jun 2024 #216

So what is the Israeli governments estimate? Is it within acceptable parameters for the killing of innocent civilians Martin68 Jun 2024 #240

Hamas shouldn't have started all this shit. The blame lies with them. oldsoftie Jun 2024 #277

You are saying Israel is complicit in Hamas' plan to cause Palestinian civilian deaths to get international sympathy. Martin68 Jun 2024 #282

Your mental gymnastics are ridiculous. Israel is trying to wipe out as many terrorists as possible. oldsoftie Jun 2024 #298

So many callous folks here at DU, very saddening. ExciteBike66 Jun 2024 #168

That's BS, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #170

It's only BS if there is no base for a charge of callousness. Some posts here demonstrate a total lack of empathy for Martin68 Jun 2024 #179

How many posts have you seen showing empathy for the civilians killed on Oct 7, by the posters yagotme Jun 2024 #224

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #236

This message was self-deleted by its author AloeVera Jun 2024 #191

And this right here is why it's not possible to have a serious, nuanced conversation about these issues at DU. ShazzieB Jun 2024 #184

What we are, is realistic. Hamas stated goal is the TOTAL destruction of Israel oldsoftie Jun 2024 #215

Granted, the stated goal of Hamas is the total destruction of Israel. Granted, Hamas is an evil terrorist organization. Martin68 Jun 2024 #237

So Israel should just be content edisdead Jun 2024 #290

No, Israel should not to be content. Israel should work towards a two-state solution, which Netanyahu has abandoned. Martin68 Jun 2024 #305

It's the coalition of orgs against Israel manicdem Jun 2024 #296

You are supporting the disinformation campaign of a terrorist organization. wnylib Jun 2024 #230

Give me one example of disinformation I posted. Otherwise, stop posting here. Martin68 Jun 2024 #238

Genocide enid602 Jun 2024 #116

I am no one's "daddy issues" Bad Thoughts Jun 2024 #118

Many of those civilians supported Hamas's actions. If they supported it, they are not collateral damage. Guilty. Lucky Luciano Jun 2024 #173

Many Palestinians did not support Hamas's actions. Bluepinky Jun 2024 #205

70% of Gazans supported the attacks of October. oldsoftie Jun 2024 #217

"Deserve". yagotme Jun 2024 #225

I read it, sounds like lack of empathy to me. Bluepinky Jun 2024 #245

"Deserve" and "I don't care" are different things. yagotme Jun 2024 #247

Obviously, they're spelled differently. Bluepinky Jun 2024 #249

Lead and lead are spelled the same. yagotme Jun 2024 #251

I choose not to argue about something silly. Have a good one. Bluepinky Jun 2024 #252

Choosing not to argue about something silly, yagotme Jun 2024 #253

Children under 21 manicdem Jun 2024 #297

That part of the world, you can probably lower that age even more. yagotme Jun 2024 #301

So are you going to undertake a survey to prove that every family killed in their apartments, and every man, woman, and Martin68 Jun 2024 #241

The US only had two nuclear weapons at the time. Progressive dog Jun 2024 #276

Fire bombing raids killed as many if not more civilians than the nuclear bombs. We could have fire-bombed every Japanese Martin68 Jun 2024 #285

Obviously the US did achieve the surrender of Japan Progressive dog Jun 2024 #303

Not exactly that at all...but if you go after Hamas directly and their sympathizers perish in the process then... Lucky Luciano Jun 2024 #288

Collateral damage. Straw Man Jun 2024 #198

I'm curious....what were the "...other means..." available to them? Dan Jun 2024 #109

Oslo Process, to start Bad Thoughts Jun 2024 #125

Ask the Armenians how they were forced out of Nagorno-Karabakh, and it wasn't even a fair fight! tornado34jh Jun 2024 #201

You are using the word genocide rather loosely wnylib Jun 2024 #231

There is a thing called cultural genocide tornado34jh Jun 2024 #270

Maybe you could ask Sandrine Irankunda rpannier Jun 2024 #211

Those rational people would also have to be ignorant. Beastly Boy Jun 2024 #136

Good point. ShazzieB Jun 2024 #186

They used the word "genocide" like a fucking cudgel in discussions that should be more fucking nuanced and delicate. SoFlaBro Jun 2024 #262

Thats because Hamas chooses to hide and attack from the midst of civilians. oldsoftie Jun 2024 #214

+1 betsuni Jun 2024 #219

Rubbish. It's a guerrilla war in an urban setting. wnylib Jun 2024 #220

What would be rational about that? TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #291

The use of the word genocide an exaggeration? How would you distinguish genocide from what Israel is doing to the Martin68 Jun 2024 #283

So African lives don't matter? Voltaire2 Jun 2024 #2

Said nobody at all here Ontheboundry Jun 2024 #3

Absolutely the implication of the op. Voltaire2 Jun 2024 #4

It absolutely was not the 'implication' of the OP, PCIntern. sheshe2 Jun 2024 #9

Nonsense. Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #11

The UN addressed actual genocide long ago. murielm99 Jun 2024 #16

It's troubling how the outrageousness of Nazi extremes has redefined an important term. jaxexpat Jun 2024 #36

"People of that era had no qualms" about using the term "genocide"? thucythucy Jun 2024 #63

I jumped the gun, but not a shark, exactly: jaxexpat Jun 2024 #95

I thought as much. thucythucy Jun 2024 #105

37,000 deaths in a densely populated urban area due to bombing and rocket attacks is not simple murder. Martin68 Jun 2024 #50

You're right, that's incredibly restrained warfare. We should applaud Israel for their consideration and humanity. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #52

Anyone who would consider that "humanitarian" is beyond the pale of civilized discourse. Martin68 Jun 2024 #58

No. That's war. Deal with it. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #67

Interesting post... well, it may be war Dan Jun 2024 #112

See, that? That statement? I agree with that. We're not the World Police. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #114

Welcome to the Orwellian world of gaslighting and doublespeak. AloeVera Jun 2024 #115

Ah yes, Orwell, where the duly elected government propped up terrorist acts to support genocide. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #117

I think you missed the point of that book. AloeVera Jun 2024 #129

The "Point" is that the "Bad Guys" manipulate language, change definitions and use words as weapons. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #248

Indeed. Let's see how it works from a different angle. AloeVera Jun 2024 #256

"hasbara agents" really letting the veil slip here, aren't we? tritsofme Jun 2024 #258

Holy shit, are you kidding me? An active and willing agent of Hamas? XD Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #260

I will be communicating with my Hamas handler this evening for further instructions. AloeVera Jun 2024 #269

Isn't hasbara just "explanation"? AloeVera Jun 2024 #267

Is that like when somebody "explains" how Hamas did not break the November ceasefire lapucelle Jun 2024 #275

Wow. AloeVera Jun 2024 #279

Wow ... what? The following is your *explanation* of the reason why Hamas broke the ceasefire: lapucelle Jun 2024 #287

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #259

Discussion over. AloeVera Jun 2024 #268

Well said PatSeg Jun 2024 #263

The argument is overwrought at the very best and more like ridiculous TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #293

In every single instance, they were moved away from Hamas military targets, into areas free of those targets. Beastly Boy Jun 2024 #139

"Consideration and humanity"? choie Jun 2024 #134

Oh, boy! ShazzieB Jun 2024 #190

I have seen more than enough ugly photographs of the death and destruction raining on Gaza. Martin68 Jun 2024 #239

We've all see the ugly photos, dear. ShazzieB Jun 2024 #261

"Dear?" Does insulting me bolster your argument? Have I indicated I'm uncomfortable with disagreement? Martin68 Jun 2024 #286

Perhaps I should have made my comments more specific. ShazzieB Jun 2024 #309

+1 betsuni Jun 2024 #310

Thanks! ShazzieB Jun 2024 #311

ShazzieB., you obviously flew off the handle without a clue who you were responding to or who you were Martin68 Jun 2024 #313

Actually, the post you originally responded to was directed to someone else. ShazzieB Jun 2024 #316

Then call me obscene and perverse. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #264

dangggggg...... OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #13

How? betsuni Jun 2024 #40

Where do you see this? Ontheboundry Jun 2024 #124

We Africans were denied our wedding rings malaise Jun 2024 #113

I'm Jewish and completely agree with you Malaise. choie Jun 2024 #135

Thank you malaise Jun 2024 #143

My great-grandmother. AloeVera Jun 2024 #156

Slavery and genocide are both crimes against humanity. Beastly Boy Jun 2024 #141

I don't need to look up anything malaise Jun 2024 #142

Ah yes, the answer of those that are defeated. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #144

Maybe you don't need to, but it wouldn't hurt. Beastly Boy Jun 2024 #148

ROFL malaise Jun 2024 #157

Is that the best you got? MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #161

Nothing justifies the extreme stupidity and ignorance it would take to think Hamas leaders are just like Mandela. tritsofme Jun 2024 #164

Which country in Africa? JustAnotherGen Jun 2024 #265

Where in the OP was that said? sheshe2 Jun 2024 #5

It's implied Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #6

I don't really agree ismnotwasm Jun 2024 #14

I'd argue, again, that that cheapens the term. Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #15

Again Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #17

Critics should focus on Netenyahu's subservience to narrow ultra-Orthodox and settler interests. sop Jun 2024 #25

Shutting down discussion Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #29

And conversely... OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #34

Agree Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #37

Absolutely. n/t OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #38

That goes on here too. Marcus IM Jun 2024 #59

So it's okay to bring up genocide if we acknowledge the brutal murder of Israelis by Hamas? Martin68 Jun 2024 #56

Speaking for myself... OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #75

Also... OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #77

To find mentioned post... revmclaren Jun 2024 #101

Goddamn, that's egregious. Forgot how bad it was. Like the Brick post from 2016. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #104

Densely urban areas occupied by hundreds of thousands of civilians are almost always the same ethnicity. LeftInTX Jun 2024 #123

No, an amendment citing an aspect of reality is not a license TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #304

I think people are trying to shut down discussion alright... Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #110

sigh... OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #121

That's exactly what I've seen happening, yup. AnrothElf Jun 2024 #167

Nope FBaggins Jun 2024 #84

Pointing out that genocide has a definition and Israel isn't doing it results in an instant YER RACIST response. betsuni Jun 2024 #76

Be specific! Behind the Aegis Jun 2024 #79

Yes, it's Jewish genocide that's triggering. betsuni Jun 2024 #83

Can't say what I want, Betsuni. Alerts are flying and I know I'm treading the line. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #85

There are no pics of those genocides that can tell the same story FBaggins Jun 2024 #91

IKR 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ sheshe2 Jun 2024 #82

Why.. never mind ismnotwasm Jun 2024 #7

No, the point is that slaughtering 1000s of Palestinians ain't so bad Bucky Jun 2024 #10

Tragedy is not the same as genocide Bad Thoughts Jun 2024 #62

"Tragedy" sounds like a natural disaster, not mass slaughter of civilians Bucky Jun 2024 #271

Mass slaughter is exaggeration Bad Thoughts Jun 2024 #278

No. It was airstrikes, helicopters and quadcopter drones that did the killing. AloeVera Jun 2024 #308

I'm.not fan of the state of Israel (or a hater fwiw) Ontheboundry Jun 2024 #126

I didn't know about Oct 7th being a "slap in the face" Bucky Jun 2024 #273

FYI, Hamas counts their militants in the 30,000 number. yagotme Jun 2024 #302

Mostly, the point is that Bettie Jun 2024 #19

And, especially, Palestinian lives don't matter Sky Jewels Jun 2024 #22

They do matter, which is why Sinwar must surrender Bad Thoughts Jun 2024 #64

Our valiant slayer of straw men! Thank you for your service! tritsofme Jun 2024 #150

Said no DUer ever Hekate Jun 2024 #154

Keep seeing claims DUers are heartless callous ghouls without empathy who think Palestinians aren't people betsuni Jun 2024 #212

What are you talking about? mcar Jun 2024 #181

Wow, this is the same thing as saying "all lives matter" in a Black Lives Matter thread. elias7 Jun 2024 #203

Yes it is. betsuni Jun 2024 #204

A common theme ANYTIME anti-Semitism is mentioned! Behind the Aegis Jun 2024 #209

We don't matter malaise Jun 2024 #266

I have seen a smaller basket of rings in person at the Museum of Tolerance in LA onecaliberal Jun 2024 #8

That's what war is. PCIntern Jun 2024 #18

You're giving a false choice. Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #24

Uh-huh..."clearly" PCIntern Jun 2024 #27

So the only way to eliminate the Hamas threat is to eliminate every Palestinian they could be hiding behind. TheRickles Jun 2024 #30

If Palestinian "civilians" are taking and holding hostages? They're Hamas. Yes, eliminate them. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #31

A war in which all civilians are expressly targeted? Where's the precedent for that? Geneva Convention, etc. TheRickles Jun 2024 #32

Civilians holding hostages are not civilians, they're enemy combatants, via the Geneva Convention. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #33

So basically every living person in Gaza is fair game, as they may possibly be holding hostages. TheRickles Jun 2024 #47

If they're holding hostages, as the US and Israel knew, yes, they're fair game. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #51

And if you don't know for sure whether or not they're holding hostages, then just to be on the safe side... TheRickles Jun 2024 #99

If they jump in front of bullets for their lords and masters? Yes, wipe them out. Glad we agree. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #100

If they cheered for the events of Oct 7 in any way, then yes...definitely wipe them out. Lucky Luciano Jun 2024 #174

Yes, one might say it's devilishly clever, no? AloeVera Jun 2024 #73

We must burn this village down to save it. Marcus IM Jun 2024 #78

Fun Fact: That's what happened during the Black Plague and we're all here because of it Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #80

I thought it was Noah's ark that saved us. Marcus IM Jun 2024 #94

Okay, that got me. XD Well done. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #98

No malaise Jun 2024 #165

Yep. Marcus IM Jun 2024 #196

I know that malaise Jun 2024 #221

The intent is to stop the village from burning down another's. TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #320

If Israel is "expressly targeting" "all civilians", they're really doing a crappy job. yagotme Jun 2024 #227

Yes Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #35

Somehow ignored is the very important detail that warning civilians before military attacks so they can evacuate betsuni Jun 2024 #49

Then how did those people die, plus those still under rubble? AloeVera Jun 2024 #151

Hamas is responsible. Period mcar Jun 2024 #182

That's absurd! AloeVera Jun 2024 #187

Hamas declared war on Israel on Oct 7 mcar Jun 2024 #188

They do. And they should be tried and brought to justice. AloeVera Jun 2024 #189

There was no cease-fire before Oct. 7th. Invading "settlers" were still killing Palestinians in the West Bank. nt TeamProg Jun 2024 #65

"No cease fire". yagotme Jun 2024 #228

Terrorist settlers were invading / killing Palestinian farmers. TeamProg Jun 2024 #233

I agree. These "settlers" should be sent/brought back into Israel. nt yagotme Jun 2024 #234

Genocide looks like a lot of different things. This representation is certainly a devastating one. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2024 #12

It should be recognized that . . . Richard D Jun 2024 #20

The war began long before Oct 7th. There was no actual cease-fire in place before Oct. 7. Hundreds of TeamProg Jun 2024 #55

Forgive me for asking . . . Richard D Jun 2024 #66

Not at all. I am saying that the attack on Israeli citizens at the music festival did not come under an actual cease- TeamProg Jun 2024 #70

I do understand that perspetive . . . Richard D Jun 2024 #81

Invading "settlers" did not adhere to the same 'cease-fire' that HRC is referring. TeamProg Jun 2024 #89

One was a government-sponsored terrorist operation. The other was independent Jews. Easy distinction. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #92

Exactly, there was no cease-fire. That has been a lie since Oct. 7th. TeamProg Jun 2024 #96

The very term 'settler' evokes colonial genocide Voltaire2 Jun 2024 #106

Not to those who know any remedial level of history or the English language. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #111

And Israelis were murdered in Hamas terror attacks mcar Jun 2024 #183

Yes, they have been iemanja Jun 2024 #207

Not to mention Hezbollah and Iran ... TBF Jun 2024 #138

Genocide looks like Andy Canuck Jun 2024 #21

The self-centeredness of this post is breathtaking. Sky Jewels Jun 2024 #23

No PCIntern Jun 2024 #28

No asm128 Jun 2024 #41

There is only one definition of genocide. And it is not yours or mine, or anyone else's. Beastly Boy Jun 2024 #146

Israel and the IDF were ROUNDING UP Gazans by bombing out their homes and businesses. Then Gazans were forced to Rafah TeamProg Jun 2024 #69

I honestly cannot believe the gaslighting mcar Jun 2024 #185

They ARE victims of genocide. Period. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #107

it's part of the sickness Skittles Jun 2024 #197

The mental gymnastics to avoid blaming Hamas is also breathtaking. oldsoftie Jun 2024 #218

There are lots of claudette Jun 2024 #26

Thank you. mjvpi Jun 2024 #128

Basic decent truth MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #131

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #39

Someone doesn't like this post bpj62 Jun 2024 #42

Its because the intention of the post is to undermine the gravity and legitimacy of other genocides. Sky Jewels Jun 2024 #44

No PCIntern Jun 2024 #130

Just because this particular genocide is not convenient for your agenda does not mean it's not genocide. Sky Jewels Jun 2024 #223

Per the definition you posted, Hamas is guilty of genocide. yagotme Jun 2024 #229

Israel 'undoubtedly' committing genocide says Holocaust scholar Amos Goldberg Passages Jun 2024 #235

Except it is obamanut2012 Jun 2024 #243

Wow you beat the hell outta that strawman! AnrothElf Jun 2024 #171

I think the Israeli government and IDF are going way too far in their response to Hamas' attack. cab67 Jun 2024 #43

There is no "not thinking" about it. TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #54

Actually, thinking is involved here. cab67 Jun 2024 #108

It's not a minority, sadly. AloeVera Jun 2024 #137

Intifadas . . . Richard D Jun 2024 #147

Ethnic cleansing, the Nakba... AloeVera Jun 2024 #158

I see . . . Richard D Jun 2024 #160

Nothing makes October 7 acceptable to me. cab67 Jun 2024 #162

Other than the ultra-right wing minority Richard D Jun 2024 #163

I actually have heard Israelis say this. cab67 Jun 2024 #169

It's a complex place . . . Richard D Jun 2024 #178

I've learned this. cab67 Jun 2024 #242

It made it inevitable. AloeVera Jun 2024 #166

Who is not the question I have . . . Richard D Jun 2024 #195

No one has the slightest idea? AloeVera Jun 2024 #281

The Palestinians, once they figure out who represents them, are better off taking cues from Anwar Sadat Beastly Boy Jun 2024 #294

Sorry, but the analogy is relevant to Gaza. lapucelle Jun 2024 #299

Nothing makes claudette Jun 2024 #180

The truth about "The Nakba" Richard D Jun 2024 #272

Horrible, inhumane, cruel, insane, pure hate, criminal, bigoted and unjust. Let's not let it happen again. nt TeamProg Jun 2024 #45

Agreed. Exterminate Hamas now and forever. You and that other one are on a roll! Finally on the right side. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #46

How does Israel exterminate Hamas? obamanut2012 Jun 2024 #244

With every available and legal weapon, intelligence source and means, with extreme prejudice. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #246

I can only imagine what my father (WW 2 and Korean War veteran) would say. Tetrachloride Jun 2024 #53

for some reason... Hieronymus Phact Jun 2024 #60

This seems to upset people sarisataka Jun 2024 #71

This is one image of genocide SocialDemocrat61 Jun 2024 #86

Blame this whole mess on the bible. Arne Jun 2024 #87

Blame it on all religion and the view that any one religion race or ethnicity malaise Jun 2024 #145

+1 Mossfern Jun 2024 #254

Blame it on human beings. shrike3 Jun 2024 #274

You may well be correct malaise Jun 2024 #280

Perhaps. But we are a violent species. Blame it on our genes? shrike3 Jun 2024 #284

Hamas propaganda has made the term "genocide" almost meaningless. nt LexVegas Jun 2024 #88

I'm sure that will be great comfort to the remaining family members of Sky Jewels Jun 2024 #312

Now, one of the most popular appliance brands is Krups. Marcus IM Jun 2024 #90

Be careful. Being openly genocidal against Jews is considered being a freedom fighter akin to Mandela to some. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2024 #93

And Mandela is a terrorist to others. Marcus IM Jun 2024 #97

See post # 101 revmclaren Jun 2024 #102

The unprecedented horror liberalhistorian Jun 2024 #103

We can never allow this again. Fuck nazis, fascists and white supremacist scumbags. Initech Jun 2024 #119

Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #120

Genocide, no. Ethnic cleansing, maybe. Martin Eden Jun 2024 #127

Thousands of rings is not a required bit of evidence for genocide Model35mech Jun 2024 #132

Okay, when did that happen? Proportions is not a number you or anyone considers too high TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #306

If you read what I wrote you will realize you are trying to place what I wrote Model35mech Jun 2024 #315

I hope you realize that thousands of rings only represents the MARRIED deaths. yagotme Jun 2024 #307

I'm not denying that the Holocaust was a real genocide Model35mech Jun 2024 #314

As the writer, Adam Shatz said in London Review of Books Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #133

The cost of modern warfare is increased civilian deaths. How many are acceptable? How many needed for genocide? andym Jun 2024 #140

You didn't mention the collection of gold dental fillings, caps, and dentures extracted from victims' mouths... surfered Jun 2024 #149

Agreed... PCIntern Jun 2024 #152

Not a criticism of your good post, just more evidence of the horrible, horrible cruelty surfered Jun 2024 #155

Take a screenshot and save it. Go to . PCIntern Jun 2024 #159

Thank you surfered Jun 2024 #192

My father in law's first wife. My mother in law's parents and sister. On edit after reading the thread... Hekate Jun 2024 #153

Hekate, madaboutharry Jun 2024 #193

Have not, but will put it in my list. The precis at Amazon looks excellent. Hekate Jun 2024 #194

Be warned, it is a real page turner. Behind the Aegis Jun 2024 #200

My husband recently read Noah Feldman's ... Hekate Jun 2024 #202

I'll have to check that one out (just added it to my wish list)! Behind the Aegis Jun 2024 #208

Our side-conversation is making me glad I didn't give up on this thread Hekate Jun 2024 #210

Netanyahu is a war criminal. Period. Buttoneer Jun 2024 #172

His government is a big reason for this mess, I don't care what anyone here says tornado34jh Jun 2024 #199

The reasons though only in part to what you would imply TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #295

Kicking this for truth mcar Jun 2024 #176

The callous responses. Patton French Jun 2024 #177

K & R SunSeeker Jun 2024 #206

So many posts, not so much deep thinking Layzeebeaver Jun 2024 #213

Try to refute this, you fools tornado34jh Jun 2024 #222

See above post #229 nt yagotme Jun 2024 #232

I'm sorry, did the ICC not put arrest warrants for Hamas leaders or am I missing something? tornado34jh Jun 2024 #289

Mid May, "seeking" warrants for Hamas and Israeli leaders. yagotme Jun 2024 #300

I highly doubt that all the members of Hamas, including their leaders, are in Palestine tornado34jh Jun 2024 #317

Of course they're not. yagotme Jun 2024 #319

Which is why I think getting rid of Hamas is not going to be as easy as it seems tornado34jh Jun 2024 #321

Which just applies to war in general. Fucking useless. Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #250

So I guess then the Armenian Genocide, Holodomor, and others aren't called that by your definition tornado34jh Jun 2024 #292

There are war crimes other than Genocide. Buttoneer Jun 2024 #226

True wryter2000 Jun 2024 #255

I'm watching it now, very good except I don't like the actor playing Hitler. betsuni Jun 2024 #257

Some of the victims' eyeglasses collected at one extermination camp JoseBalow Jun 2024 #318

Best post of the year. Possibly ever. maveric Jun 2024 #322