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karynnj

(60,965 posts)
16. This is a stupid poll -- and I have only seen it used against Democratic nominees
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 10:42 AM
Jun 2024

There IS an overwhelming need to stop Trump. If people are forced to pick ONE reason many who "like" Biden would pick that alternative -- it does NOT mean they are not happy with Biden. Other polls -- which are somewhat push polls - ask whether you think Biden, who is in his 89s should run for a second term.

However, with this poll, I think the majority of people here - politically engaged Democrats - would agree that stopping Trump to preserve democracy is a very important reason to vote for Biden. This angered me more in 2004 where some prominent Democratic pundits, including Carville and Begala, pushed the argument that people were more anti Bush than pro Kerry. I could not have been more pro Kerry, but I was anti Bush from 2001 onward (First the tax cuts, then the wars). Given Kerry's convincing win of the primaries one could make the argument that he had more personal support than their candidate who did not capture the nomination in 1992 until June.

Why go over ancient history? Compare 1992, where Democrats rallied around Clinton - with no suggestions I can remember that he should be supported JUST because he was the Democratic nominee or that people were just anti Bush and anti Perot. Unlike either earlier Democrat, Biden is an incumbent and he actually has a record that ANY first term President would envy.

Polls and articles like this diminish the candidate personally. One counter to it is that the few times someone other than Biden was polled against Trump, they did worse not better. This would suggest that Biden IS the strongest candidate as well as the de facto nominee.

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which is why it could be a disaster if republicans replace him before the election mucifer Jun 2024 #1
They CAN'T brooklynite Jun 2024 #2
There could be health reasons. he is a mucifer Jun 2024 #5
They have to dance with the one who brung them...felonies and all! Mark.b2 Jun 2024 #26
Yeah, sure... padfun Jun 2024 #3
What other answers should be available? brooklynite Jun 2024 #6
Well, lots of things. padfun Jun 2024 #7
Point one: "liking Joe Biden" basically incorporates liking his policies and accomplishments.... brooklynite Jun 2024 #9
OK. I admit that I didn't read it all the way padfun Jun 2024 #13
Very strange what's going on TheFarseer Jun 2024 #4
What he's not better on is campaigning... brooklynite Jun 2024 #10
I can't argue with that TheFarseer Jun 2024 #18
Whatever it takes. Fullduplexxx Jun 2024 #8
Biden is boring steady competent Johonny Jun 2024 #11
If they really vote for Pres Biden, IDGAF why... Wounded Bear Jun 2024 #12
People Mostly Vote Against Someone Or Something, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2024 #14
Thanks for your post. It's spot on. TheProle Jun 2024 #24
Sure. H2O Man Jun 2024 #15
This is a stupid poll -- and I have only seen it used against Democratic nominees karynnj Jun 2024 #16
Very interesting! H2O Man Jun 2024 #17
Spot on. Thank you. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #29
I think Biden has been a great President, far better than he gets credit for, but still... Silent3 Jun 2024 #19
I don't give a shit Why Pres Biden is Supported .. Cha Jun 2024 #20
Wasn't this the case in 2020, except maybe MORE-SO ?? DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #21
I agree Kaleva Jun 2024 #22
Biden: Maybe the best ever LiberaBlueDem Jun 2024 #23
Like this is a bad thing? We should be cheering that any people at all are taking a pragmatic view! Hekate Jun 2024 #25
I didn't realize... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #27
Not this voter. I voted for him in the primary. AnrothElf Jun 2024 #28
My vote will be FOR the Biden / Harris record ... Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2024 #30
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