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In reply to the discussion: I am so sick and tired of the anarchists who tack onto peaceful protests [View all]wnylib
(26,076 posts)Israel gained its independence from the British colonists.
Prior to that, the imperialist rulers of "Palestine" were the Ottoman Turks. Many of the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians today are immigrants or descendants of immigrants from nearby Arabic nations who went to British Palestine for work. Many of today's citizens of Israel had been expelled from Muslim nations in the region. Then there are the 20% of Israeli citizens who are Arabic Muslims. Their loyalty to Israel is stronger than to terrorists who attack Israel.
It is a remarkable stretch of imagination to claim that people who have had a historical, cultural, and residential connection to the land for 3000 years are colonists there.
As for capitalism, I do not buy into the far left view that it is inherently evil. It must be regulated, as it was under FDR's programs, because financial dealings and transactions require laws, as do other facets of society. The right wing has been dismantling FDR era financial laws for decades. Raw, unregulated capitalism produces a near Medieval state of society in which robber baron oligarchs become today's equivalent of Medieval nobility and royalty, hoarding money and resources for their inner circle of descendants to inherit, making serfs and peasants of the rest of us. But with regulations to restrict corporate monopolies that can be (and was for many years) prevented.
Laws and social programs to assure basic rights and necessities are part of good governance in a nation, especially a democratic one. That includes public services like roads, police and fire departments, public libraries, public schools, and assurance of basic life necessities like health care and access to affordable food and housing. That is part of the role of governance without the need for a total switch to socialism and destruction of capitalism.
So I do not subscribe to anti capitalist rhetoric. I find it strangely hypocritical of people to denounce capitalism in Israel (or anywhere else) while supporting the "freedom" of Palestine under their current conditions of dominance by extremely wealthy terrorist leaders. I fully support an independent state of Palestine, but not under the rule and authority of terrorists who endanger the region and their own people.