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86. Maybe not so extreme -

Fri Jun 14, 2024, 09:43 AM

Jun 2024

this is the crux of what I was trying to say yesterday. I wouldn't jump to conclusions about who is fomenting violence, and I wouldn't automatically point and yell "anarchists"! It may be a little closer to home than that.

I read a great article this morning about whether the left is engaging in antisemitism that I think is on-point and perhaps tackles the subject that some of you are touching on.

Gifted from Haretz - https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/haaretz-today/2024-06-13/ty-article/.highlight/aipac-aoc-and-the-american-lefts-antisemitism-problem/00000190-1280-d667-abf0-76cbd3740000?gift=22e2b3d418a94ae69494fc0159b07371

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I am so sick and tired of the anarchists who tack onto peaceful protests [View all] Peacetrain Jun 2024 OP

Scary Anarchists - TBF Jun 2024 #1

I'm assuming they're talking about EllieBC Jun 2024 #2

Perhaps the term "antisemitic" would suffice. nt TBF Jun 2024 #3

They are extreme leftists who see Israelis as "White, capitalist, colonialist, imperialists." wnylib Jun 2024 #37

Same. Online and off. Former friends... OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #50

We ignore the fact that they are from the left at our own peril. wnylib Jun 2024 #52

Thank you. I feel I'm... OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #53

I can suport changes that seem radical at the time, and have done so, wnylib Jun 2024 #63

💯 n/t OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #66

So, what is incorrect with this position? OutNow Jun 2024 #77

The British were the colonists in pre 1948 Palestine. wnylib Jun 2024 #82

Thank you. betsuni Jun 2024 #85

I would LOVE to find a space to have rational discussion about this... OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #88

This is an excellent post - TBF Jun 2024 #94

Yes!!! OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #96

Israelis are no longer mostly white, European Jews, They are Mizrahi Middle Eastern Jews. Deported from Arab, Iran. LeftInTX Jun 2024 #97

THIS n/t OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #98

Maybe not so extreme - TBF Jun 2024 #86

Darn, that looks like a really good article OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #87

ugh, tried to gift it (I subscribe to Haaretz) -- TBF Jun 2024 #92

Here is one account from Forward - TBF Jun 2024 #93

Thanks very much! n/t OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #95

Mahalo, EllieBC.. Excellent post.. they are Cha Jun 2024 #74

Unreal how anyone EllieBC Jun 2024 #83

The OP did not say leftists wryter2000 Jun 2024 #35

What do you think anarchists are? TBF Jun 2024 #42

Little reported, but yes, happy feet Jun 2024 #48

That guy who broke the windows... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #75

the idea that these people are either 1) infiltrators stopdiggin Jun 2024 #4

Thank you. Many here REALLY don't want to hear that it seems. n/t OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #16

I agree. yardwork Jun 2024 #25

Yeah! the rightwing would NEVER do THAT! Think. Again. Jun 2024 #26

Rittenhouse wasn't claiming to be part of the protests XorXor Jun 2024 #32

the 'infiltrators' mythology is not a (plausible) explanation for stopdiggin Jun 2024 #36

Sorry, taking advantage of protests is an old practice... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #64

there was virtually no need for anyone to hijack the Palestinian protests stopdiggin Jun 2024 #81

Obviously there WAS a need to hijack the protests... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #84

those 'peaceful protests' were full of virulant hate (and messaging) stopdiggin Jun 2024 #90

No, but it's interesting to see.... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #91

"mythology"? Think. Again. Jun 2024 #76

Because many Islamic people in the US have been victimized by the right.... Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #34

Our version of Antifa being the insurrectionists TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #70

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. BannonsLiver Jun 2024 #5

They don't just tack onto peaceful protest. Beastly Boy Jun 2024 #6

good point. as soon as someone starts vandalizing property stopdiggin Jun 2024 #22

I've seen them at protests out here Qutzupalotl Jun 2024 #7

Nursery Rhymes of hate and violence Bad Thoughts Jun 2024 #19

yeah. but that is NOT what is happening stopdiggin Jun 2024 #23

The so called peaceful protestors can speak up JI7 Jun 2024 #8

Demonstrations Are Run And Orchestrated By The People Who Show Up For Committee Meetings The Magistrate Jun 2024 #9

THIS -- Be part of the planning, get to know the people involved, know your cohort Hekate Jun 2024 #38

'run and orchestrated' bigtree Jun 2024 #99

I can't prove it, but I'd bet they're usually "false flag" agents provocetuer Wednesdays Jun 2024 #10

Within Our Lifetime- a well-known Pro-Palestinian, antiZionist(*) group sarisataka Jun 2024 #20

I doubt many are false flag infiltrators. yardwork Jun 2024 #29

Yes! Richard D Jun 2024 #60

Face masks to avoid being identified for their vandalism by witnesses, employers, and LE. wnylib Jun 2024 #39

Oh please. They have been showing their ass since Day #0 TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #11

Glittering generalities and one size fits all. GreenWave Jun 2024 #12

Don't smear the anarchists with this anti-Semitic crap. These people want Sharia law. n/t Coventina Jun 2024 #13

Yup. But I've gotten used to it on this site - TBF Jun 2024 #17

"No gods, no masters" is the anarchist creed Coventina Jun 2024 #21

I've never seen a call to "kill all the leftists" at DU, nor have I seen such "widely applauded by centrists" Hekate Jun 2024 #40

I think then that you are not paying attention TBF Jun 2024 #51

"Kill all the leftists"? Don't deflect. You said that. Hekate Jun 2024 #55

Ignore all the words you don't want to read - TBF Jun 2024 #57

What you said about this site was about the broadest brush I've ever seen. I'll fight at your side ... Hekate Jun 2024 #61

When they call Israelis capitalist colonial imperialists wnylib Jun 2024 #43

Can we just kick... OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #45

Nihilists attach themselves to any cause that has an urgent or emotional basis. haele Jun 2024 #54

No doubt some have made a profession... OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #62

COVID Isolation and the constant bombardment of "bothisidersm" haele Jun 2024 #67

Excellent points. OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #68

Good points, and also I've thought about the impact on college students. yardwork Jun 2024 #72

Happily, somehow Covid had the opposite effect on an old friend TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #79

Anarchists and anti-semites are definitely two different things Silent3 Jun 2024 #47

Sounds like a re-branded Antifa meme... EarthFirst Jun 2024 #14

Doxxing? Yet another word that has morphed to mean something different. OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #18

yep. apparently doesn't know what the word means stopdiggin Jun 2024 #24

There's no mentions of Palestine, Israel or antisemites in the OP AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #69

That is their conscience messing with them. TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #80

Doxxing has a specific meaning. In order to doxx you, I'd need to ferret out your name, address, SSN... Hekate Jun 2024 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author TBF Jun 2024 #56

Yes, in STLMO, when we had the riots/demonstrations, most of the people that were arrested were from out of town. SWBTATTReg Jun 2024 #15

THIS is exactly what needs to be done if you don't want to be co-opted by thugs Hekate Jun 2024 #31

Yes. And we took back our neighborhoods. Scumbags need to stay away. The protests were all peaceful too. SWBTATTReg Jun 2024 #71

Disrupting and infiltrating protests... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #27

Campus protest leaders (not infiltrators) were shouting in unison wnylib Jun 2024 #49

Palestine SHOULD be free. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #65

Palestine can be free any time it wants. Ex Lurker Jun 2024 #73

But the "From the River to the Sea" means after they eradicate Israel EX500rider Jun 2024 #78

I disagree that these are anarchists. yardwork Jun 2024 #28

They co opt the protest to sow chaos and division and ms liberty Jun 2024 #30

I am so with you wryter2000 Jun 2024 #33

the 'agents provocateur' is (mostly) an urban myth stopdiggin Jun 2024 #41

They ought to follow the rules. bluedigger Jun 2024 #44

These people that go around trashing..... scardycat Jun 2024 #58

they sound like republicans to me. barbtries Jun 2024 #59

every one of our anti-Iraq war protests had a contingent of these people bigtree Jun 2024 #89