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whathehell

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65. No, sorry..

Reply to Martin68 (Reply #48)

Tue Jun 18, 2024, 11:50 PM

Jun 2024

The US was not in receipt of anything close to the kind of detailed information received by Israeli intelligence.

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IDF knew of Hamas's plan to kidnap 250 before October 7 attack - report [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2024 OP

Why am I reminded of 9/11, Cheney/Bush/Rumsfeld?! KPN Jun 2024 #1

First thing that crossed my mind. Dave Bowman Jun 2024 #26

Israeli LIHOP. intheflow Jun 2024 #44

Nope. Just huge failure -- failures in both cases; both resulting in catastrophic consequences. KPN Jun 2024 #58

Bibi himself said it: "This was our 9/11" peppertree Jun 2024 #70

So are we blaming Israel for Hamas' atrocities? TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #2

I think we've got two separate issues here iemanja Jun 2024 #6

Yep and wasn't trying to suggest otherwise TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #21

I agree with that. But the OP has the stink of conspiracy theory to it. Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #42

Nothing in the OP suggests that. intheflow Jun 2024 #45

I disagree. I've seen far too much of it over the years to not recognize it. Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #49

It strikes me as 'Bin Laden determined to strike U.S.' NutmegYankee Jun 2024 #7

Plenty of blame for both the murderous terrorist thugs Hamas & the murderous ultra RW religio-fascist Netanyahu regime. Celerity Jun 2024 #12

Bothsiderism is BS. former9thward Jun 2024 #22

It is not BS when it is true, sorry. I do not play extremist stance games from either side. It takes two to tango, and Celerity Jun 2024 #25

The problem I have with this kinda stuff... Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #43

100% correct obamanut2012 Jun 2024 #51

applying the same logic, anyone who blames Bush, Cheney, Rice, PNAC, etc for ANY part of 9/11 is also bothsides-ing Celerity Jun 2024 #62

I dont know, both sides are killing kids... ExciteBike66 Jun 2024 #38

What Celerity said is not BS at all -- obamanut2012 Jun 2024 #50

Facts Matter HandmaidsTaleUntold Jun 2024 #13

TexasDem you sound a little defensive. I think we're talking about two different issues here. No need to conflate Martin68 Jun 2024 #14

That's a weird take and completely opposite of what I posted TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #20

You do know, don't you, that Netnayahu's trial has been going on during the war? former9thward Jun 2024 #23

There was a huge intelligence failure on the part of Mossad and the CIA. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #19

I disagree in half. The blame goes to Mossad in terms of operational awareness. Tetrachloride Jun 2024 #54

Well vote also for the Netanyahu/Likud admin and top IDF heads ignoring warnings they got of... brush Jun 2024 #30

Weird that Neutanyu gets the info from Egypt & other countries womanofthehills Jun 2024 #66

Enough civilians have died over this dickthegrouch Jun 2024 #3

Hamas can surrender the instigators TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #4

Opinion piece, very sad TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #5

Do we know . . . Richard D Jun 2024 #8

So, LIHOP? Wednesdays Jun 2024 #9

Do you believe that CT about 9/11? former9thward Jun 2024 #24

Not talking about 9/11. Just the OP here. nt Wednesdays Jun 2024 #28

Where did the poster mention 9/11? obamanut2012 Jun 2024 #53

I know what I think... ananda Jun 2024 #10

Sounds like the US on 9/11. Martin68 Jun 2024 #11

Not at all.. whathehell Jun 2024 #34

We had enough information to investigate and get full information. Multiple intercepts and warnings were ignored. Martin68 Jun 2024 #48

No, sorry.. whathehell Jun 2024 #65

Sorry, I did not say the US was in receipt of detailed information. I said the US didn't follow up multiple Martin68 Jun 2024 #67

Right, but my point is that whathehell Jun 2024 #71

Something tells me Zeitghost Jun 2024 #15

That's something that's bugged me about the "Netanyahu aided Hamas" meme AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #29

Very good point Zeitghost Jun 2024 #33

Oh, please, no one is saying anything about preemptive action... brush Jun 2024 #32

Like, build a wall, to make an "open air prison? nt yagotme Jun 2024 #41

It's already an open-air prison...nearly flattened and full of rubble. brush Jun 2024 #63

Oh please.. whathehell Jun 2024 #35

That's what I said. And of course no demonizing of either side. brush Jun 2024 #36

Yes whathehell Jun 2024 #37

Victim blaming Zeitghost Jun 2024 #39

Victim denying whathehell Jun 2024 #40

Of course they would have. It's not about Gaza, it's about hating Jews. BannonsLiver Jun 2024 #61

The gist of this story was known in October 2023 in published reports Tetrachloride Jun 2024 #16

Good OPSEC Deep State Witch Jun 2024 #56

indeed. and stay underground Tetrachloride Jun 2024 #57

It would have been virtually impossible... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #17

I have always believed it was wag the dog...Netanyahu wanted to remain in power and he wants to annex Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #47

Bibi Should Fry For This If Buried This HandmaidsTaleUntold Jun 2024 #18

Not to forget... moondust Jun 2024 #27

Our warnings on Hamas were ignored, Israel's women border troops say (article from November 2023) Celerity Jun 2024 #31

This is worse then 9-11 because Bush didn't believe warnings but Netanyahu knew. it was wag the dog. He needs to Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #46

I remember reading that the IDF blew off the report Deep State Witch Jun 2024 #52

Moreover, there are reports that Egypt warned Israel. Tetrachloride Jun 2024 #55

I think Rebl2 Jun 2024 #59

Bibi wanted to use Hamas to divert attention from West Bank settlements and other issues LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #60

Sounds like this is Bibi's stay out of jail plan Hassler Jun 2024 #64

Know they are up to something and knowing exactly what that is aren't the same thing Mountainguy Jun 2024 #68

September 19th would be exactly two weeks after Netanyahu's long time family friend invested Saudi money Uncle Joe Jun 2024 #69