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In reply to the discussion: Nate Silver gives Trump a 65% chance of winning.,.. [View all]Celerity
(54,454 posts)37. The Los Angeles Times nailed it.
The USC/L.A. Times poll saw what other surveys missed: A wave of Trump support
Heres how the USC/Los Angeles Times Daybreak tracking poll is different from the others.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-usc-latimes-poll-20161108-story.html
Reporting from Washington
For most of the last four months, the USC/L.A. Times Daybreak tracking poll has been the great outlier of the 2016 campaign -- consistently showing a better result for Donald Trump than other surveys did. In light of Tuesdays election returns, the poll now looks like the only major survey to see the wave coming.
Most of the summer and fall, the polls results have been about 6 percentage points more favorable to the Republican than the polling averages. As of Tuesday morning, the polls final forecast for the election showed Trump leading by a little over 3 points, 46.8% to 43.6%.
The polls findings caused dismay even outrage among some readers, especially Democrats, who have denounced it and often criticized The Times for running it.
But just as four years ago the poll was one of the few that did not underestimate President Obamas support, it seems as though it may have been on its own in not underestimating Trumps.
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Heres how the USC/Los Angeles Times Daybreak tracking poll is different from the others.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-usc-latimes-poll-20161108-story.html
Reporting from Washington
For most of the last four months, the USC/L.A. Times Daybreak tracking poll has been the great outlier of the 2016 campaign -- consistently showing a better result for Donald Trump than other surveys did. In light of Tuesdays election returns, the poll now looks like the only major survey to see the wave coming.
Most of the summer and fall, the polls results have been about 6 percentage points more favorable to the Republican than the polling averages. As of Tuesday morning, the polls final forecast for the election showed Trump leading by a little over 3 points, 46.8% to 43.6%.
The polls findings caused dismay even outrage among some readers, especially Democrats, who have denounced it and often criticized The Times for running it.
But just as four years ago the poll was one of the few that did not underestimate President Obamas support, it seems as though it may have been on its own in not underestimating Trumps.
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But this isn't a polling average-- more like his personal betting odds.
DemocraticPatriot
Jun 2024
#18
This isn't any polling average, but a "percentage chance of winning" prediction---
DemocraticPatriot
Jun 2024
#17
Does this include fly by night GOP operative propaganda polls? Michigan high schooler polls?
themaguffin
Jun 2024
#14
The Economist "Predictive" model had trump favored 2 out of 3 odds several weeks ago. Now, it's 3 out of 4.
Silent Type
Jun 2024
#32
An EC win for Dump and popular vote win for Biden would be the end of the republic.
roamer65
Jun 2024
#39
Nate has an agenda...and the polls have been up for Biden lately. I predict Joe Biden wins easily in November.
Demsrule86
Jun 2024
#41
The "shit committee" which I"m a member of doesn't give a "SHIT' about "Nate Silver."
Stuart G
Jun 2024
#56