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shrike3

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92. There was an excellent post earlier about how replacing him at this point would be difficult if not disastrous.
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 05:05 PM
Jun 2024

No. 1, there'd be no money immediately at hand, since funds already donated to Biden cannot be transferred. The convention is fast approaching, and there is really no clear favorite. I keep hearing about Gavin Newsom, and while I like him, I don't know that he'd play well with the rest of the country. I live in deep red territory, and California is spoken of with contempt, if it is spoken of at all. Harris would also have to be replaced, because candidates cannot come from the same state.

And who exactly would the replacement be? All those mentioned poll worse against Trump than Joe does. It's a pipe dream at worst; at best a feat hard to pull off in what amounts to weeks. A bruising fight at the convention would make us look even worse. See 2016. Not helpful overall.

Here's the post, if you haven't read it already.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219072298

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What is this implying? orange jar Jun 2024 #1
Not sure, but MSNBC was discussing this very question and there's nothing wrong with debating it. Towlie Jun 2024 #79
Am I the only one who is noticing vercetti2021 Jun 2024 #2
They seem to have posts in the thousands valleyrogue Jun 2024 #10
Same onecaliberal Jun 2024 #14
No, you are not the only one. The anti Biden posts and OPs are on a mission. wnylib Jun 2024 #22
I noticed that in the debate thread last night. Lots livetohike Jun 2024 #31
hard to believe that folks would start posting about elections in an election year fescuerescue Jun 2024 #49
And Johnson died in only what would have been the third year into what would have been his second term. I'm ... marble falls Jun 2024 #50
Yes...the trolls are out! PortTack Jun 2024 #52
There have been more than a few. shrike3 Jun 2024 #67
You're deluding yourself if you think only trolls saw the debate last night and are thinking this. meadowlander Jun 2024 #74
There have been more than a few people coming out of nowhere, apparently to suggest that Joe drop out. shrike3 Jun 2024 #82
Obviously some people are trolling meadowlander Jun 2024 #86
Well, It was my understanding we are to support Dem candidates. shrike3 Jun 2024 #87
Until the convention, Biden is not the only possible nominee meadowlander Jun 2024 #91
There was an excellent post earlier about how replacing him at this point would be difficult if not disastrous. shrike3 Jun 2024 #92
Seems like Robert Reich and Steve Schmidt are thinking Alliepoo Jun 2024 #104
I imagine you have a particular point you want to avoid saying explicitly. Torchlight Jun 2024 #3
Seems they won't outright say what they mean. orange jar Jun 2024 #19
Like Viet Nam for instance, and what they won't mention we got JohnSJ Jun 2024 #103
Did you see him in N.C. just now? Blue Cape Jun 2024 #4
Welcome to DU! Wednesdays Jun 2024 #9
Where was that guy last night? Jose Garcia Jun 2024 #12
I think the issue was that he was trying to fact check Trump in real time orange jar Jun 2024 #16
Biden looked and sounded terrible even before Trump opened his mouth Jose Garcia Jun 2024 #98
I know. The degate coaching team...not a good job; brush Jun 2024 #61
It wasn't what he said. It was how he looked and sounded. Jose Garcia Jun 2024 #99
IMO some strong, repeated talking points would've helped. brush Jun 2024 #100
That guy, as has been pointed out multiple times both last night, and today, niyad Jun 2024 #88
Welcome to our DU family. niyad Jun 2024 #85
Trump knows it would be best if Trump retires too, but he just won't admit it in public bucolic_frolic Jun 2024 #5
Yeah and Dem4life1234 Jun 2024 #6
That decision got us Nixon. Cattledog Jun 2024 #7
Correct answer crazylikafox Jun 2024 #8
No, LBJ's decision to impose Humphrey on the convention got us Nixon. former9thward Jun 2024 #11
True, but that might have been different democrattotheend Jun 2024 #42
This - thanks to that non-electoral event, nothing can be concluded from 1968 muriel_volestrangler Jun 2024 #106
Yes Dem4life1234 Jun 2024 #95
Oh. That's nice. LuckyCharms Jun 2024 #13
So are you saying Nixon was the best for the nation? Yonnie3 Jun 2024 #15
Nope. LBJ stepped aside and the country elected Nixon so no that was a bad idea by Johnson. greatlaurel Jun 2024 #17
Well said. n/t Doc Sportello Jun 2024 #33
Shithead wants Biden to drop out because he'll lose to Biden Ponietz Jun 2024 #18
more trolling....great democratsruletheday Jun 2024 #20
Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #21
Why punish Blue Cape Jun 2024 #23
+ Rec Niagara Jun 2024 #41
Is this a hit-and-run post? sarisataka Jun 2024 #24
There is also a post about Gavin Newsom "sure being handsome" that followed the same MO. lapucelle Jun 2024 #25
Saw that. orange jar Jun 2024 #30
Interesting coinkydink sarisataka Jun 2024 #62
I like the ones spamming illicit gossip about Newsom AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #77
Seems like it. shrike3 Jun 2024 #84
Post Is 35 Minutes Old ProfessorGAC Jun 2024 #26
Makes one want to fire up a pizza truck, doesn't it? marble falls Jun 2024 #56
It is a hit and run. and we lost the election after Johnson decided not to run. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #108
Snakes know when to crawl back under a rock, too. we can do it Jun 2024 #27
Completely different cilla4progress Jun 2024 #28
Your concern is noted. n/t ms liberty Jun 2024 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Cape Jun 2024 #32
LBJ's reasons for not seeking another term are irrelevant to the current situation Ocelot II Jun 2024 #34
I'm just discussing LBJ. n/t Jacson6 Jun 2024 #35
LOL. Ok. orange jar Jun 2024 #37
LOL! Do you honestly think anyone here believes that? JoseBalow Jun 2024 #76
You then believe 'discussion' is simply a series of unsupported assertions, one after another? nt Torchlight Jun 2024 #78
completely disagree. msfiddlestix Jun 2024 #36
Beware the clever Raven123 Jun 2024 #38
I don't recall making any reference to Newsom. msfiddlestix Jul 2024 #109
LBJ decided not to run for re-election in 1968 for one reason FakeNoose Jun 2024 #39
LBJ made that announcement in March of 1968 . . . markpkessinger Jun 2024 #40
Good points! H2O Man Jun 2024 #96
If this is a comment on Biden, then it is entirely misplaced. LBJ resigned because of opposition to the Vietnam War. Martin68 Jun 2024 #43
Your "concern" is noted. DinahMoeHum Jun 2024 #44
LBJ had to step down because he was losing an unwinnable war. Ping Tung Jun 2024 #45
And it was probably a mistake... Wounded Bear Jun 2024 #46
He made the announcement on March LiberalFighter Jun 2024 #47
I shall retire from seeing your posts again blogslug Jun 2024 #48
He retired because his health was failing, fer pete's sake. Nixon won by lying about his desire to end the war. marble falls Jun 2024 #51
That's right ...the op did a poor job of looking into LBJs retirement PortTack Jun 2024 #54
He retired because his health was failing Jacson6 Jun 2024 #57
No. His health has nothing to do retirement. Torchlight Jun 2024 #59
Magnificent book on Johnson. shrike3 Jun 2024 #90
awwwwww, sooooo clever of you, thinking we will not notice the dig. niyad Jun 2024 #93
Wasn't the result 2 terms of Nixon? retread Jun 2024 #53
LOL read some history awesomerwb1 Jun 2024 #55
Apparently Joe Biden knows it's best for him not to. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #58
What leads you to consistently and innacurately assert his health was the reason for retirement? Torchlight Jun 2024 #60
Possibly one of the worst things he did to the country ColinC Jun 2024 #63
Revisionist history. Sogo Jun 2024 #64
I'm not going to beat around the bush with this. orange jar Jun 2024 #65
What did that accomplish? The Democrats lost later that year. Self Esteem Jun 2024 #66
and kids at the dinner table knew when to be quiet b/c adults were talking fishwax Jun 2024 #68
Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #69
We have a greater chance of losing without Biden as the nominee. orange jar Jun 2024 #70
Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #72
Welcome to DU, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Lancero Jun 2024 #75
Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #73
Similarities enid602 Jun 2024 #71
Perhaps it's time for you to retire ZZenith Jun 2024 #80
And we got Nixon... returnee Jun 2024 #81
ENOUGH ALREADY!!! niyad Jun 2024 #83
Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #89
Thing is Rebl2 Jun 2024 #94
What Happened? I thought you wanted to discuss LBJ JoseBalow Jun 2024 #97
And that gave us Nixon. Charlie Chapulin Jun 2024 #101
LBJ was deeply mired in the Vietnam War. Biden had a bad cold. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #102
Oh, yea, you bet, we then had Tricky Dick Nixon. republianmushroom Jun 2024 #105
And we lost the election to Nixon. I don't think that was best...we had two term Nixon and the war went on... Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #107
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