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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]forestpath
(3,102 posts)387. That literally made me feel ill. DU is now OFFICIALLY enabling rapists.
I agree with you that this guy should be in jail!
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There are many a chap who haven't evolved, I applaud your evolution and honesty!
arthritisR_US
Nov 2012
#323
I asked downthread, and I'd really like to know, what if he'd been the rapee?
Common Sense Party
Nov 2012
#156
No. It means I and many others will be reading with interest and not taking part.
Turborama
Nov 2012
#25
That is a question which, if one has to ask, one has already answered.
Common Sense Party
Nov 2012
#4
Agree but the law was still the same as it is now. Nothing has really changed in the wording
former-republican
Nov 2012
#43
Actually, where I live the wording to the law has changed. It used to be that verbal refusal of sex
arthritisR_US
Nov 2012
#332
was it the griup of boys? cause that would be 70's. was it the kids you hung out with?
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#63
It definitely was NOT the norm in northern MI, NashvilleLefty. I was born in 1955.
catbyte
Nov 2012
#292
It might have been the norm for RWers, but on the left we leaned feminist even then.
kestrel91316
Nov 2012
#392
I did my share of drinking and can say I never did that to a passed out woman.
former-republican
Nov 2012
#74
ya. i do not even know if we talked about date rape until like the later 70's, 80's.
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#140
how do you know. so someone carried them to the room. swept thru the party drunk so and so in
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#258
then the opportunity was not there because people took care of the girl. why pretend it doesnt
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#287
yippers. i wonder if he too... (yes, may be a she, we do that)... has a past
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#336
I think you are wrong. I did rape awareness on the U of Delaware in the late 70s...
Luminous Animal
Nov 2012
#88
Are you kidding me? In the late 70s, an underaged woman was raped & killed after leaving a local bar
Luminous Animal
Nov 2012
#141
yup. and there is much in our culture today, that is pushing us back for the girl to stfu. nt
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#232
People call themselves all kinds of things they aren't. Progressive or Liberal, you weren't.
patrice
Nov 2012
#42
people have suggest this. i wouldnt want to hear back from a rapist, decades later. i wonder how
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#393
No one I know ever considered it acceptable that wasn't also a piece of shit. nt
Bonobo
Nov 2012
#62
I don't find your rationalization that you were young and needed to stick it somewhere as a
Democrat 4 Ever
Nov 2012
#347
You're a liar. I'm 55 and that sort of thing was as horrifyingly criminal then as it is now.
kestrel91316
Nov 2012
#391
i don't see confusion , thank god for the sluts, would he have thought it was ok if it was his
JI7
Nov 2012
#33
He's playing all of us. He only made the OP to get in a jab about how liberals,
kestrel91316
Nov 2012
#395
You say you were peer presured into it, and encouraged to do these things...
Common Sense Party
Nov 2012
#161
I understand what you were saying...I am 51, and the "bad" girls were known to all
adigal
Nov 2012
#246
The vast majority of men, IME, have that mindset. It's OK for them to treat some woman
raccoon
Nov 2012
#199
Socioeconomic status, ethnicity, religion, family structure, etc all play a role in sexual attitudes
FarCenter
Nov 2012
#54
Yes, and as I stated, I've found that the very wealthy are more likely to behave badly.
yardwork
Nov 2012
#252
Hmmm... I always assumed that in super wealthy families women typically had more "clout".
Smarmie Doofus
Nov 2012
#280
In the MOVIES under the new(ish) Hayes Code in 1939, there were rules about that sort of thing.
MADem
Nov 2012
#116
The Motion Picture Production Code allowed all sorts of implications and in-jokes
Lydia Leftcoast
Nov 2012
#286
The point of the Motion Picture Code, though, was that "bad things" did not happen, because the
MADem
Nov 2012
#315
exactly. i was feeling that reading it also. and yes, that scene was one people were suppose to
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#221
He gives a sly look to the camera and leans toward the woman as the scene fades out
arcane1
Nov 2012
#320
the girls were passed out and that was cool for you? and people are thanking you
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#13
again, i was right in the time where date rape drug comes out and gals werent informed. aids and we
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#75
You needed education to know not to fuck people who were in no condition to consent?
LeftyMom
Nov 2012
#15
I think that is the most screwed-up definition of "Red Blooded American Male" I've ever heard.
Common Sense Party
Nov 2012
#120
huge mistake on my part. using fire in bed. heavy OP. thinking as i was reading.... my bad.
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#41
oh lordy. thank you. i totally forget the op. i will have to see what the? is.
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#56
And underage drinking and driving when drunk and partying when one should be studying and not
libdem4life
Nov 2012
#21
i was in bed, reading a little fire, and kinda blown away from the OP. reading down the thread, i
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#219
i think it is more that they have to be numb to it, and that is the matter of fact you hear. so
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#85
When I read an article about that going on among 12- and 13-year-olds,
Lydia Leftcoast
Nov 2012
#302
an empty house was another conversation i had with my boys. not gonna happen
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#304
This makes me SOOOO sad that anyone even debates when it's "OK" to have sex and when it's not...
cherokeeprogressive
Nov 2012
#77
true. but this is taught to respect because you have all the other social factors that teach
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#102
I was raped by an ex-boyfriend in HS after I told him I never wanted to see him again.
hrmjustin
Nov 2012
#84
It was not easy, but I wanted healing. But to this day I still have issues trusting men.
hrmjustin
Nov 2012
#107
YOU are the guy Fathers tell their Daughters about. You were THEN, and probably are NOW.
cherokeeprogressive
Nov 2012
#108
Although I agree with the last line. The rest of your statement disgusts me...
vaberella
Nov 2012
#121
yes. i found that study over a year ago. i have recently gone back looking for it
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#146
It seems clear that the great majority of posters in this thread are denying the facts these survey
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2012
#196
point on. if we are not really honest, then it will continue and no resolutions to be had. it is a
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#214
That kind of supports what the OP was saying about what his attitude was back then
loudsue
Nov 2012
#379
and if someone had told you it was bad, you wouldn't have done it? after all, you were a
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#129
Please answer this as honestly as you can: When you were a teen, if YOU had passed out
Common Sense Party
Nov 2012
#142
I don't knee-jerk "hate" you, but it's not my place to forgive (or not).
nomorenomore08
Nov 2012
#173
If you feel that bad about it, you should go and confess to law enforcement
darkangel218
Nov 2012
#181
If he goes and confesses to the police, dont be so sure he wont get prosecuted.
darkangel218
Nov 2012
#206
That's disgusting and it's a shame you weren't prosecuted for it. Appalling. nt
TeamsterDem
Nov 2012
#193
Unless you're in your eighties, it certainly wasn't considered acceptable behavior at the time.
MadHound
Nov 2012
#203
I appreciate that you are willing to honestly examine your behavior and thought processes.
Sheldon Cooper
Nov 2012
#226
the moral to this story is we hear the SAME stories today. things are not different.
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#312
i do. the whole point of all this is when you tell a guy rape is rape, he will probably agree. say
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#325
the concept of consensual sex needs to be understood and included in the education.
lunatica
Nov 2012
#247
As someone that lost my virginity to rape in 1972, was raped by my husband and as the mother of a
Mnemosyne
Nov 2012
#265
My great-grandfather had a unique punishment for rapists- nail their dick to a stump and give them a
Mnemosyne
Nov 2012
#268
When you are raised in a culture where x is acceptable, how are you to know otherwise?
jollyreaper2112
Nov 2012
#309
geezus ... get off the fuckin evo psych... hard wired bullshit. so fuckin tired of that garbage. nt
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#313
no. there was not. whne you give men that they are hard wired, i stop reading. it is bullshit in
seabeyond
Nov 2012
#335
If this OP isn't pure bullshit and flameware, then I would think it would be
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#324