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[EarlG]

100. I dont think the party is in chaos, honestly

This is different than 2016. It seems to me that most of the fear among individual Democrats this time around is not that THEY will have a hard time voting for Biden, but that OTHER PEOPLE will have a hard time voting for him. But that dynamic has been in play since long before the debate.

In 2016, DU, along with the party at large, suffered something of a schism when many people decided they couldn't or wouldn't pull the lever for Hillary Clinton after a gruelling and painful primary campaign. It was evident at the Democratic National Convention (I was there and witnessed it myself).

This time around, even the folks here at DU who have been calling for Biden to step aside are still going to vote for him when he stays in the race. They're not going to abandon him. The same goes for the party at large. We all know what the stakes are.