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ibegurpard

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112. What's shocking to me

Sun Jun 30, 2024, 02:04 AM

Jun 2024

Are the serious people who continue to make the suggestion. History and logistics are not on their side.
Biden's demeanor and behavior immediately after reinforce that his debate shitshow was just a bad night. Yes it sucks and it's hurt us but if there were serious chronic cognitive problems he wouldn't be running.
Don't suggest he needs to step aside. Sell him.
Biden has come closer than any Democratic president in my adult life to the ideals and policy that I think the Democratic Party should hew to. Better than Clinton. Better than Obama. He's just faced a firestorm of media headwinds and an inexplicable blase attitude about tooting his own horn.

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If you want a different candidate than Joe Biden, here's what you need to do [View all] EarlG Jun 2024 OP

Boom. nt The Unmitigated Gall Jun 2024 #1

Thank you! mcar Jun 2024 #2

Better than I could have ever said it. Calls to replace Biden are trollery at worst, wrong minded at best. marble falls Jun 2024 #3

gru efforts at worst. niyad Jun 2024 #22

There's a Florida ex-cop ex-pat who now holds Russian citizenship who runs a collection of over ... marble falls Jun 2024 #61

About that troll farmer. marble falls Jun 2024 #92

Dear Goddess, I think I am going to be ill. F'n, no-neck TRAITOR. niyad Jun 2024 #109

I thinks he's been at it harder since Thursday night. There are even more indepth articles about him. marble falls Jun 2024 #120

Thank you 🙏 sheshe2 Jun 2024 #4

Thoughtful, well said and factual. The diversity Ninga Jun 2024 #5

The voice of reason. Thank you. Croney Jun 2024 #6

It really is PatSeg Jun 2024 #51

They say old age is not for the faint of heart either. rzemanfl Jun 2024 #116

It has been so exhausting PatSeg Jun 2024 #124

Hear, hear! RandomNumbers Jun 2024 #7

Thanks! emulatorloo Jun 2024 #8

I'm all ForgedCrank Jun 2024 #9

Thank You, gab13by13 Jun 2024 #10

Excellent post. Thank you. BoomaofBandM Jun 2024 #11

Thank you EarlG. n/t livetohike Jun 2024 #12

Polling shows that no one polls better vs Trump than Biden... and Biden beat him before. WarGamer Jun 2024 #13

Just to back that up with some data... FBaggins Jun 2024 #34

Interesting FBaggins. TY! Cha Jun 2024 #88

Who's Newsome? dickthegrouch Jun 2024 #103

Correction FBaggins Jun 2024 #127

Kick dalton99a Jun 2024 #14

Thank you! Roxi Jun 2024 #15

There seems to be quite a bit of misogyny and racism at play. niyad Jun 2024 #25

I cannot, and I mean this sincerely, recommend this enough ismnotwasm Jun 2024 #16

I think it exposes the biggest difference between us and MAGATs..... COL Mustard Jun 2024 #39

I think your right except that you don't mention the party seems in chaos. oldmanlynn Jun 2024 #17

I dont think the party is in chaos, honestly EarlG Jun 2024 #100

Thank you! William769 Jun 2024 #18

I couldn't agree with you more comrade! WheelWalker Jun 2024 #19

I agree. And I have seen people on Twitter posting they'd vote for Biden posthumously before they'd vote highplainsdem Jun 2024 #20

KNR plus a gazillion, EarlG. Thank you!!! niyad Jun 2024 #21

Great post. Thanks. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2024 #23

TY.. I knew you'd be along to Cha Jun 2024 #24

Thank you EarlG proud patriot Jun 2024 #26

Kennedy Blue Full Moon Jun 2024 #27

Found the right man for the job 😉 SocialDemocrat61 Jun 2024 #28

Thanks Earl, you do us all a great service by posting this. Your work here is amazing too. ❤️❤️❤️ flying_wahini Jun 2024 #29

Yes, absolutely. Excellent post, thank you for it. CaptainTruth Jun 2024 #30

Completely agree with your analysis. sop Jun 2024 #31

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Biden is NOT going to drop out. IF he did, that would nearly guarantee Trump's victory. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2024 #40

The is the best thing I have read on this suject. So well said. Wish I could rec it a thousand times ms liberty Jun 2024 #33

TY. XanaDUer2 Jun 2024 #35

Thank you. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #36

We have our candidate and must unite behind him. There's no time left to debate fantasies. Thank you, EarlG! Mousetoescamper Jun 2024 #37

There is a time and a place. LiberalFighter Jun 2024 #38

Exactly. LisaL Jun 2024 #41

Al Gore thoroughly defeated Dubya Bush in their debates. raging moderate Jun 2024 #49

Hillary Clinton outperformed Trump and had more wnylib Jun 2024 #72

Except when he made Paul Ryan look like a chump. muriel_volestrangler Jun 2024 #57

To be fair, Biden has never been a consistently great debater EarlG Jun 2024 #101

Thank you EarlG... perfectly stated! bsiebs Jun 2024 #42

If the polls go seriously south and the fundraisers revolt before the convention Prairie Gates Jun 2024 #43

I agree with every word you've said...and maybe there is a silver lining. Trueblue Texan Jun 2024 #44

Very well stated! ShazzieB Jun 2024 #45

Abso-frickin'-lutely iamnoone Jun 2024 #46

You nailed it! lees1975 Jun 2024 #47

Thanks for this common sense. byronius Jun 2024 #48

Thank you, EarlG Bumbles Jun 2024 #50

Thank you! Tumbulu Jun 2024 #52

Absolutely - TBF Jun 2024 #53

common sense and reality Kali Jun 2024 #54

Abso-fucking-lutely! GoneOffShore Jun 2024 #55

Great Post EarlG Sun-Moon Jun 2024 #56

Biden is pre-redeemed in my eyes Mblaze Jun 2024 #58

I like DU rules. I have no respect for any suggestion to abandon MY President. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2024 #59

Perfectly laid out in a logical array of reasonable points. jaxexpat Jun 2024 #60

My Response To Biden's Debate Performance Was DallasNE Jun 2024 #62

"Do not be surprised if Biden gets a small bump in the polls when they come out..." Wednesdays Jun 2024 #73

Yes. There is basically nothing we can do about this at this time. But the elephant in the room is that DeeDeeNY Jun 2024 #63

And that is why we need to rally around Biden in unity. wnylib Jun 2024 #77

Replacing a candidate at this point in the campaign soldierant Jun 2024 #64

Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2024 #65

Mic Drop MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #66

If I had a time machine Dave Bowman Jun 2024 #67

Right on! Tree Lady Jun 2024 #68

Thank you, EarlG debm55 Jun 2024 #69

Well, I don't disagree, talk of replacing Joe Biden is just wind. malthaussen Jun 2024 #70

Well said angrychair Jun 2024 #71

And this is why I love DU! AwakeAtLast Jun 2024 #74

Lots of generalizations, false premises, and non sequiturs there. Goodheart Jun 2024 #75

You see generalizations, false premises, and non sequiturs. wnylib Jun 2024 #78

Newsom would lose against Trump. orange jar Jun 2024 #79

I doubt that. Goodheart Jun 2024 #83

According to what I've read, if the election were held today Trump would beat Newsom by four points. shrike3 Jun 2024 #121

Are you kidding? We cannot even decide on a replacement candidate, JohnSJ Jun 2024 #82

Biden's the nominee and will remain so Elessar Zappa Jun 2024 #96

K & R. Great post and great opinion! Emile Jun 2024 #76

I agree with everything except "if Biden loses then it is Biden fault". JohnSJ Jun 2024 #80

Agree. This is correct. betsuni Jun 2024 #87

Thanks. It won't happen, but if Biden doesn't campaign it critical swing states, that JohnSJ Jun 2024 #90

To clarify EarlG Jun 2024 #99

Thanks, I assumed that was the case and throughly agree with your analysis JohnSJ Jun 2024 #107

K&R AKwannabe Jun 2024 #81

Lawrence O'Donnell made it clear for those who don't know the JohnSJ Jun 2024 #84

Thank you for the wise words!! Peacetrain Jun 2024 #85

Thank you! mahina Jun 2024 #86

That needs to be published widely as soon as possible Bozvotros Jun 2024 #89

Rec! Niagara Jun 2024 #91

Thank you for this post dai13sy Jun 2024 #93

I am reminded of the day Palin became VP candidate Maeve Jun 2024 #94

Clarification, please onandup Jun 2024 #95

From the rules EarlG Jun 2024 #98

Replace Biden? orangecrush Jun 2024 #97

Just the medicine that we needed. Thank you EarlG. love_katz Jun 2024 #102

This post made my day for sure. Frank D. Lincoln Jun 2024 #104

THANK you, EarlG !!!!! DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #105

Thank you Progressive dog Jun 2024 #106

Correct, it's way too late for that IronLionZion Jun 2024 #108

Works for me! calimary Jun 2024 #110

The President did not sound or act his usual self. idahoblue Jun 2024 #111

What's shocking to me ibegurpard Jun 2024 #112

Damn right! sarchasm Jun 2024 #113

You described the situation perfectly. RVN VET71 Jun 2024 #114

The hysteria and panic is not all bad Danascot Jun 2024 #115

Very well said. intrepidity Jun 2024 #117

Thank you EarlG!! bobnicewander Jun 2024 #118

You make a good case, Earl G. Now, more than ever, Cyrano Jun 2024 #119

This is a GREAT post GaYellowDawg Jun 2024 #122

GREAT POST! Can I use it to cancel my subscription to the AJC???! RamblingRose Jun 2024 #123

Now that the shock has worn off, Mr. Mustard 2023 Jun 2024 #125

Ted Kennedy did no favors to his legacy... Tommy Carcetti Jun 2024 #126

I'm sticking with Biden. I watched very little of the debate. Linda ladeewolf Jul 2024 #128

Everything discussed on this site is iemanja Jul 2024 #129