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In reply to the discussion: What is disgusting to me is the failure among some to rally behind a very successful President because of one bad night [View all]LeftInTX
(34,295 posts)68. Read this in it's entirety..Ignore the headline
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'It's a mess': Biden turns to family on his path forward after his disastrous debate]
Inherent in the wait-and-see approach is an acknowledgment that there is no clear replacement for Biden and that his departure could touch off a bloody eleventh-hour intraparty battle that might allow Trump to cruise to victory.
Theres also no feasible way to force him from his perch. All but a handful of the delegates to the Democratic convention were elected on their pledge to nominate him at the partys convention in August. If he chooses to stand for that nomination, party insiders say, he will get it.
Moreover, according to a senior Democratic official, the party leadership would have much more control over choosing a replacement if Biden were to drop out after receiving the nomination than if he did so beforehand. Once a candidate is officially nominated, there is a process for the Democratic National Committee members to choose a successor. Biden is the dominant force at the DNC, and his preference for a successor would surely carry sway.
If Biden were to exit before that, his delegates might do what he asked of them but they wouldnt be bound in the same way they are now. In that scenario, the delegates could nominate anyone, and there could be a political brawl at the convention.
We need to have as much discipline as emotion, the senior Democratic official said. Its not politically smart for Biden to step down.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-family-path-forward-disastrous-debate-mess-rcna159591
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However, there could be a problem if he exits after the convention and the new nominee chosen by the Democratic National Committee, which is quite different than the Democratic National Convention. Our convention is so late, that many states are already getting those overseas ballots ready. In Texas overseas and military ballots must be mailed out by Sept 21st. (I'm pretty sure this is federal requirement, not just a Texas thing). It's alot of work to get the ballots ready. Fortunately, it's easier to replace a statewide race than local races. (Mainly because everyone will have the same presidential race on their ballot) In our county, I believe there are 30 different ballot styles that go out.
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What is disgusting to me is the failure among some to rally behind a very successful President because of one bad night [View all]
JohnSJ
Jun 2024
OP
Well for me the "optics" were a decent guy under the weather vs a deranged lying autocrat wannabe.
emulatorloo
Jun 2024
#5
We're being trolled and some of us have bought into it. Joe Biden/Kamala Harris all the way!
marble falls
Jun 2024
#3
Yes. It's not surprising to me WHO those individuals are. For example: Cenk Unger *
Oopsie Daisy
Jun 2024
#4
You pointed out the media piling on; my post provides further evidence of just that.
Hermit-The-Prog
Jun 2024
#63
Understandable. It's a bad time for me to try a dry, sarcastic reply title. Sorry.
Hermit-The-Prog
Jun 2024
#73
Rather than just 'make Biden lose'-- now they are trying to push him OUT
DemocraticPatriot
Jun 2024
#64
It would be beyond insane to change nominees at this late date. Totally and completely insane.
Deek1935
Jun 2024
#11
How did George McGovern look after dropping his VP pick, Tom Eagleton, late in 1972?
DFW
Jun 2024
#65
History strongly suggests that when a party does not re-nominate its incumbent president,
DemocraticPatriot
Jun 2024
#67
If there is a "soft Democratic voter" that even considers a third party candidate in
JohnSJ
Jun 2024
#12
Even I don't know where "killed a million people with his lies" is coming from.
thesquanderer
Jun 2024
#22
trump will counter with BS that more people died from Covid under Biden, even though they had the vaccine.
Silent Type
Jun 2024
#32
Yes, that link is where the 180k figure comes from. I was asking about the other 820k.
thesquanderer
Jun 2024
#39
Thanks for your input, and I agree. Unless President Biden decides to drop out, which he has given no indication
JohnSJ
Jun 2024
#59
Precisely! Thats why we need to REDOUBLE our efforts instead of runnin scared like the Dem media pundits are doin...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2024
#66
Yes, there is no other choice. The election is between Biden and trump, and wishing it were otherwise is not
JohnSJ
Jun 2024
#31
ok, but in the end if it is between Biden and trump, they are going to vote for Biden I strong suspect.
JohnSJ
Jun 2024
#37
I agree. But, I'll admit I turned away from it that night in discouragement and with anxiety.
Texin
Jun 2024
#42
i personally wish there was more unity and understnainding. Are we united in wanting and needing to win this slection?
somaticexperiencing
Jun 2024
#46
The success of posts like this vs posts that you're talking about is encoruaging
ColinC
Jun 2024
#51
I'm really pissed at the media. The DNC is against what they are saying for good reason.
LeftInTX
Jun 2024
#61
K&R for, it's happened before - they hounded Ed MUSKIE and Howard DEAN over nothings
UTUSN
Jun 2024
#55
Sorry to burst that bubble, but I am real and discouraged; also very worried. (eom)
ClickClack
Jun 2024
#83
The pearl clutching is ridiculous. The country is booming because of JoeB, fuck the perception of a "bad" debate.
NoMoreRepugs
Jun 2024
#81
Yes...disappointing...even more so that there were posters right here on DU doing it!
PortTack
Jun 2024
#89