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JohnSJ

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55. I am not suggesting any such thing. Problem is from all indicators the media is not going to stop on this, especially

Reply to tman (Reply #44)

Tue Jul 2, 2024, 02:00 PM

Jul 2024

since some have actually called the media out on their coverage of it. They take it personally I believe, and will double down on it.

This will be up to the party leaders and President Biden to decide the corrective action necessary

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CNN Post Debate Poll - TFG 49% Biden 43% [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2024 OP

This too shall pass peppertree Jul 2024 #1

A sex scandal passes Renew Deal Jul 2024 #2

Interestingly, that has been the split for 5 months. It hasn't budged. Polls in swing states Silent Type Jul 2024 #3

Polls mean absolutely nothing right now. Nothing. They have no predictive value of who wins in November. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #21

OK. I'll review them, rather than waiting on the final poll on Nov 5. Silent Type Jul 2024 #38

Guessing the... Mike Nelson Jul 2024 #4

I don't think so. I think it has to do with this JohnSJ Jul 2024 #7

But the question remains. . . BigDemVoter Jul 2024 #34

They may not vote because they think it doesn't matter. JohnSJ Jul 2024 #36

Or independents not voting because they don't like either Amishman Jul 2024 #51

If only core Democrats were enough to win this election. Don't think it's enough. Silent Type Jul 2024 #42

Biden's gamble is that he will appeal to independents..... TheRealNorth Jul 2024 #47

That is what I think I saw steve kornacki talking about, but only caught the tail end of it. This is not good JohnSJ Jul 2024 #5

Ya know what? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #6

We can't. If the trend is going against us, that cannot be ignored, and they need to find some antidote to JohnSJ Jul 2024 #11

We are four months away from the election, polls mean absolutely nothing right now, and so just chill please. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #17

They are an indicator, not an absolute, and we ignore them at our own peril. but I can tell you right now, I do not JohnSJ Jul 2024 #24

Good point. Normal voters are not paying that much attention during summertime. Only weirdos like us. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #25

Polls are the best predicter we have at this point. I'm not ignoring them. But it's your right to. Silent Type Jul 2024 #43

Polls don't mean diddly shit right now, and debates are not predictive of presidential elections. Please just chill. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #14

It is the same as their last poll though. No change from debate. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #18

What are the odds in exact poll in April?................................ Lovie777 Jul 2024 #37

Non-response bias Mountainguy Jul 2024 #32

That's probably outside the MOE. honest.abe Jul 2024 #8

Polls mean NOTHING right now, and debates are not predictive of presidential outcomes. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #16

Exactly. Majority of ppl don't pay attention to presidential iluvtennis Jul 2024 #33

Historically debates haven't meant much. But this wasn't your typical historical debate. Silent Type Jul 2024 #45

It's well outside the MOE... but it isn't a change FBaggins Jul 2024 #35

I think we all expected a small dip in polling. Unfortunately the tv pundits and journalists FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #9

The reason for calling for an early debate Tom Rinaldo Jul 2024 #27

It will be. The republican convention is coming up soon FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #59

Do not underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. triron Jul 2024 #10

I am really concerned for the first time in months that Trump is... DemocratInPa Jul 2024 #12

If Biden loses.... TheRealNorth Jul 2024 #49

Gee MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #13

Post debate noise. I'll worry if in 30 days, there's no reversal. tman Jul 2024 #15

Blind Optimism Thrill Jul 2024 #23

Nothing close to blind optimism tman Jul 2024 #40

Tell that to the Democratic voters and politicians who are publicly expressing concern. Forget the media and even the JohnSJ Jul 2024 #29

Concern is warrented.. tman Jul 2024 #44

I am not suggesting any such thing. Problem is from all indicators the media is not going to stop on this, especially JohnSJ Jul 2024 #55

See the following asm128 Jul 2024 #19

So we are ahead. pwb Jul 2024 #20

Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #22

People hadn't seen much of Biden. He had received little media exposure pre-debate Freethinker65 Jul 2024 #26

we need to get ahead of this RJ_MacReady Jul 2024 #28

I was hoping he was going to take questions last night jimfields33 Jul 2024 #54

he needs a new campaign team RJ_MacReady Jul 2024 #60

CNN...'nuff said. BComplex Jul 2024 #30

"identical to the results of CNN's last national poll on the presidential race in April" emulatorloo Jul 2024 #31

I've heard that the poll numbers haven't budged for months. Strange. shrike3 Jul 2024 #56

The next day Biden gave the usual great speech. LakeArenal Jul 2024 #39

Because the debate is the thing most people watched budkin Jul 2024 #53

So it's done. It's done. Move on. LakeArenal Jul 2024 #57

RWers sure want Pres Biden out................. Lovie777 Jul 2024 #41

CNN's Job Is Done, I Guess... The_Counsel Jul 2024 #46

There will be only one poll that matters in 2024 Wednesdays Jul 2024 #48

That poll was taken too soon after the debate, When emotions were still high 4139 Jul 2024 #50

The debate was a disaster budkin Jul 2024 #52

This is not good news. In June 2020, Biden was UP 9 points over Trump in the same poll. beaglelover Jul 2024 #58