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In reply to the discussion: No matter what our opinions are, we have to be fact-based here. [View all]Ms. Toad
(38,895 posts)84. First - I don't recall a declaration that the primary season was over.
There is not an announcement posted in the Announcements section, as there was in 2020. None in the Democrats forum. There is no Primary forum any longer. And a quick search for EarlG and primary, primaries, or season didn't turn up any such announcement.
And, as EarlG also said at the end of that post, "At least, that's my opinion."
In my opinion, even if I missed a declaration that the Primary Season was over, I don't see a violation of the TOS:
Do not post support for Republicans or independent/third-party "spoiler" candidates.
Nope.
Do not state that you are not going to vote, or that you will write-in a candidate that is not on the ballot, or that you intend to vote for any candidate other than the official Democratic nominee in any general election where a Democrat is on the ballot.
Nope. Pretty much every post I've seen suggesting Biden should consider stepping down (or that Democrats should consider replacing him) includes a statement along the lines that "If Biden is on the ballot, I will vote for him.
Do not post anything that smears Democrats generally, or that is intended to dissuade people from supporting the Democratic Party or its candidates.
Raising concerns about Biden, specifically, is not smearing Democrats generally, and the discussions I've seen are focused on getting more people to support a Democratic Candidate because, in their view, replacing Biden would result in more support for the Democratic presidential candidate.
Don't argue there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats.
Not even close.
Personally, I think the time for changing candidates passed when Biden declared his candidacy. Do I wish he had made a different decision - yes. Although I didn't express it here at the time - I even wished at the time that he had made a different decision. I wish it even more after he decided to toss trans individuals under the bus in order to gain favor with people who don't believe trans people deserve autonomy over their own bodies.
I don't personally see any benefit in discussing changing candidates. But I won't hide any post suggesting it because we haven't yet nominated a candidate, and - as noted above - I see nothing in the TOS that prohibits it.
And, in case there's any doubt - as angry as I am right now, I'll still vote for whoever the Democratic presidential candidate is, because the alternative is exponentially worse. But I'm not going to be silent about LGBTQ+ people, yet again, being sacrificed by Democrats because we're inconvenient.
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No matter what our opinions are, we have to be fact-based here. [View all]
BlueCheeseAgain
Jul 2024
OP
Fwiw, Predictit currently places the odds re- the Presidential election as follows:
snot
Jul 2024
#2
If these sites were more liquid, they would be valid ways to estimate odds.
Lucky Luciano
Jul 2024
#13
Well if that shitstain predictitt said it, then it must be the fucking gospel.
SoFlaBro
Jul 2024
#16
My limit is 3 exclamation points. Except when someone forgets to use the sarcasm
japple
Jul 2024
#51
Most people here are very loyal to the President, and believe that keeping the faith
Wingus Dingus
Jul 2024
#5
Then there is the charge that if you have any concerns about Biden's debate performance
iemanja
Jul 2024
#18
Here is one irrefutable fact, President Biden said he is not quitting this race. He is the decider so all this arguing
ImNotGod
Jul 2024
#17
All I know is that I'm anxious beyond measure. Any path forward is a minefield.
tinrobot
Jul 2024
#20
Biden is NOT getting out. He said it. End of story. We all need to support our nominee. Period.
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#24
Debates and polls are completely non-predictive of ultimate presidential election results. Plain and simple. ZERO.
Deek1935
Jul 2024
#48
There's an Armenian saying that a person who tells hard truths is driven out of a dozen villages
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2024
#35
All this non-stop nonsense about Biden is simply writing Fox news and GOP talking points for them.
hadEnuf
Jul 2024
#39
I am trying to be as fact-based as possible, and my mind is made up. If Biden withdraws...
Rstrstx
Jul 2024
#40
i also support jo biden, my opinions are just that and do not neccesarly reflects dus opinio
AllaN01Bear
Jul 2024
#45
FFS it's not us that need to be told that. Biden needs to get ahead of this. Period.
themaguffin
Jul 2024
#62
I believe it is required that we support the nominee. Biden is the nominee.
DontBelieveEastisEas
Jul 2024
#69
Presumptive Nominee. I forego the "presumptive" for brevity and, in my opinion, clarity.
DontBelieveEastisEas
Jul 2024
#73
Biden is the presumptive candidate, but not yet the general election candidate.
Ms. Toad
Jul 2024
#89
Please, everyone who is asking Biden to step down, please let us know how many presidential
Bev54
Jul 2024
#77
it's not a 'theory' that there is a wide spread rw conspiracy to end our democracy.
mopinko
Jul 2024
#91